Pak has set up, repaired 856 bunkers along borders with India

[Aamir Hussain]

Go on Google Earth. There are areas on the border that has imagery as late as June of this year. Follow the int'l border line (Yellow) from north to south. You will see clearly the disparity between the two sides.

Scan the area from 2000 feet. The rick is to follow dirt trails on the Pakistani sides to locate border out posts. On the Indian side, well you can not miss them they are relatively large and well laid out with concrete berms and watch towers etc. Generally, they are located almost opposite of each other.

I have yet to come accross any bunker complex on Pakistani side of any significance. The AJK and IHK is another matter. The bunker complexes on both sides are hard to spot due to heavy tree-line.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

who the f*ck gives a shyte?

we talk of CBMs and all --well guess what?


india's offensive force along our borders is for what? PEACEFUL purposes? get the fack out from here


and on a somewhat related note:


Remove heavy guns from LoC: Pakistan | Indo-Pak ties | | The New Indian Express

 

[OrionHunter]

i am simply confuse what india has to do we are making repairing bunkers inside pakistan? its occupy land by us? or we have no rights?

It's just an indication that the PA/Para military are strengthening their defenses and repairing existing bunkers to make them 'battle worthy' which shows the standard of preparedness, which in turn dictates the requirement of any additional troops on the Indian side and types and quantity of weapons and missiles required to neutralize them in the event of hostilities. This also dictates the quantum of close air support required etc.

Cheers!

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who the f*ck gives a shyte?

we talk of CBMs and all --well guess what?


india's offensive force along our borders is for what? PEACEFUL purposes? get the fack out from here

Practice what you preach buddy! You need two hands to clap!

 

[sreekimpact]

And reply by Pakistan Rangers would have been '....Shut up B**ch....'

aha!! ...kid ..... you skipped your school today....?

 

[53fd]

The threat is from west,now as you already lost you last bargaining chip against USA,they have nothing to loose now.So concentrate more on west than east.

Obama will not attack pakistan till elections next year,but after elections all options are open.

Please keep your jingoistic Indian crap to yourself, the US could have 'attacked' Pakistan after the OBL raid or the Kabul embassy attacks, but if they didn't 'attack' Pakistan then, they definitely won't be 'attacking' Pakistan any time in the future.

In terms of Kashmir & the LOC, Pakistan has more than extended itself in its cooperation with India, but India must reciprocate.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Is this a joke or what??? Attacking Pakistan -- we talk about this as if we are talking about Chad Republic!!!! Wake up people, we are talking about a country which has a standing Armed Forces of over 0.6M personnel and is nuclear armed!!!!

Americans are not smoking hookah that they would think about launching attacks left right and center after OBL and Kabul and what not. Our eastern neighbors should learn a lesson from them.

You guys know how to test one's patience.

Killing 24 Pakistani soldiers who are bound strictly by rules of engagement and attacking Pakistan are two totaly different things. If US or anyone thinks that Iraq or Afghanistan was a difficult nut to crack, wait untill they take a swipe at Pakistan.

 

[LEGENDARY WARRIOR]

The threat is from west,now as you already lost you last bargaining chip against USA,they have nothing to loose now.So concentrate more on west than east.

Obama will not attack pakistan till elections next year,but after elections all options are open.

my boy, it is Obama who has lost the bargaining chip. USA will go for another war after defeat in Afghanistan??? Think again..

 

[indiafriendly]

At one side their r talks of reducing the Heavy artillery's .........Same time der r increase in bunker in LOC ....How Dual Minded ....!

 

[Storm Force]

856 bunkers is a lot of work & very defensive mindset.

THE INDIANS could just go over, under and around the bunkers IN A MASSIVE BIITZKREIG style using thousands tanks air bore troops and hundreds of fighters .

BUNKERS is a 2nd world war strategy

 

[Last Hope]

Someone's getting paranoid.

Our land, our wish. These are for self-defense not offensive having A-100s with them, all set to charge.
In-case of a war (won't happen though) on western front, India gets the opportunity to invade from East.
Anyways the bunkers on the West will hardly stand a few weeks, so why to waste resources? Whereas the bunkers on the East will survive for decades which can still limit the Eastern hub.

Anyways, due to increasing smuggling from Indian Occupied Kashmir, Pakistan is building posts near LoC. To avoid the smugglers from violating Pakistan's territory and protect the peace.

 

[pakdefender]

Static defences .... not of this day and age!

have you ever been to the indo pak border ? most likely not but for your info its all fenced from the indian side and lit with flood lights at night

Those fantasies about indian army walking into Pakistan are just that , they are fantasies

With the fencing its obvious that the indian army has conceded that it cannot fight Pakistan on any of the fronts on the indo Pak border and their only hope to pin down Pakistan via supportting insurgencies in Pakistan

As for bunkers, these can be used to provide both defensive capability as well as offensive capabilities since they usually place LMGs in there which provide covering fire to advancing parties and also give effective fire on intruders.

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856 bunkers is a lot of work & very defensive mindset.

THE INDIANS could just go over, under and around the bunkers IN A MASSIVE BIITZKREIG style using thousands tanks air bore troops and hundreds of fighters .

BUNKERS is a 2nd world war strategy

Indian border has a barbed wire fence with flood lights which they have put up themselves; this must be some super duper indian offensive tech.

You'll have to take down that fence to advance into our territory , it’s almost as Indian Army has conceded that they cannnot achieve success militarily against Pakistan on the indo Pak border hence they have it fenced up and lit up , must be expensive to run those flood lights around the year every day

Some places in the south in the Runn Kuch desert don’t even have guard posts and fences since the india side is all plain with no cover , everything sticks out on those plain , on the Pakistani side we have dunes which provide natural cover for placing.

There is no fence on the LOC since that is not international border and if Indians try to fence too close to the LOC they receive fire from our side

The indo-Pak border up till LoC has been recced and marked up for a fight and you Indians have in many ways accepted that F-all you guys can do from the western flank so you are now your focus is to use terrorists on Pakistan’s western border to get you that all elusive victory over Pakistan

It’s our fault also that we left the western front unattended due to some triabal bru ha hu that they can guard it themselves and other assocated bull crap , most of that is in the process of being corrected.

Indian blitzkrieg must be made up of blowing gas after eating prasad other than this bugger all blitzkrieg you can do.

 

[kafumanpk]

Pakistan needs more mobile combat system in response to India's aggression.

 

[Secur]

856 bunkers is a lot of work & very defensive mindset.

THE INDIANS could just go over, under and around the bunkers IN A MASSIVE BIITZKREIG style using thousands tanks air bore troops and hundreds of fighters .

BUNKERS is a 2nd world war strategy

Ohhh spare us this invincible Indian army logic ! Yes , we saw that in 2001-2002 ... Now stop living in wonderland that IA can do the impossible for you ... and ofcourse PA doesn't have tanks , troops or planes right according to you ? Do you mistake us for luxemborg ?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Where are you guys taking this thread? Nowhere. I have explained to you all the BSF and Paksitan Rangers have permanent outpost on both sides of the border to check smuggling, infilteration and accidental intrusions in the plains of Punjab and sindh/Rajistan etc.

The bunkers in AJK & IOJK are for monitoring and at some places they are eye ball to eye ball. The theory that bunkers are obsolete is true in flat landscape and open country. Prepared bunkers in mountaineous areas is another matter and was amply demonstrated as recently as Kargil.

So let give this argument a rest and move on to to other threads. This is turnning out to be pissing in the wind contest!!!

 

[Waffen SS]

Both the Indian and Pakistan armies lack the skill, planning, resources and guts to conduct BLITZKRIEG operations.

Such moves are the hallmarks of great Western armies of the past, not third world militaries.