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Citing the changing geography of Sir Creek, Pakistan has extended its claim to include the mouth of an adjoining creek on the Indian side known as the Pir Sanai creek. India has contested this, setting the stage for bilateral talks on the dispute on May 14.

Pakistan’s new claim was made at the last round of talks in May 2011. It is based on a 2007 joint survey that found that Sir Creek had moved nearly 1-1.5 km eastwards. The survey also found that an unidentified land mass that separated Pir Sanai from Sir Creek — marked in old maps — had disappeared over the years.

As a result, the mouths of Sir Creek and Pir Sanai have “almost merged”, allowing Pakistan to extend its claim line further east and closer to the Pir Sanai creek.

Due to the suspension of dialogue following the 26/11 attacks, last year’s talks had been the first conversation after the survey. New Delhi had immediately contested Pakistan’s claim, pointing out that Islamabad’s claim would effectively block access to Pir Sanai creek for Indian boats. The creek is important for India, with its naval assets also using the channel frequently.

The Pakistani delegation suggested a mechanism by which their authorities would allow Indian boats to move in and out of the creek. An irked India reaffirmed its position that the dividing line would have to be the middle of the channel and not the eastern bank of Sir Creek plus 2 nautical miles, as claimed by Pakistan.

The survey, sources said, also established that Sir Creek was a navigable channel and so the Indian side demanded that the internationally accepted “Thalweg principle” apply. This essentially means that if a water body is navigable and falls between two countries, the boundary is defined by the Thalweg of the channel — or the line joining the deepest points in the stream, which is usually closer to the middle of the channel.

The Pakistani argument is that the survey was meant to only check the orientation of the creek and had nothing to do with the navigability of the channel.

At the same time, New Delhi believes that Islamabad will eventually take a political call and accept the centre of the channel as the boundary. It is learnt that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh identified Sir Creek resolution as “doable” during his conversation with Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari last month in Delhi.

Pak cites shifting geography, lays claim to part of creek on India side - Indian Express
 
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Our claims are perfectly true... So back off... And don't fight...

No problem, keep claiming all you want. Nothing will happen or change. We'd just shut our ears and pretend that u don't exist, like we usually do.:yahoo:

You government probably knows the heavy price they are gonna have to pay if they attempt a Kargil, so you won't be doing anything substantial to back those claims either. Otherwise we don't really care much about how u draw your maps in Pakistan or what u teach your schoolkids about your territorial issues.
 
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Our claims are perfectly true... So back off... And don't fight...

As a result, the mouths of Sir Creek and Pir Sanai have “almost merged”, allowing Pakistan to extend its claim line further east and closer to the Pir Sanai creek.

Really if your part is submerged what the hell is we gotta do with it...go under water and dig it up to the surface if you wish ..we care the least .... so you back off buddy or somebody is gonna get hurt real bad today :lol:
 
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Pakistan is claiming whole indian occupied Kashmir not only creek area....

BTW never seen this claim in any Pakistani media....
india media rocks...:D
 
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Pakistan is claiming whole indian occupied Kashmir not only creek area....

BTW never seen this claim in any Pakistani media....
india media rocks...:D

And we don't give no $HIT about your claims.

By the way, Afghanistani fanboys are claiming half of Pakistan for Greater Afghanistan. Just so that you may know.
 
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And we don't give no $HIT about your claims.

By the way, Afghanistani fanboys are claiming half of Pakistan for Greater Afghanistan. Just so that you may know.

its all abt international community which consider Kashmir as disputed not half of Pakistan.....

soo keep barking & prepare some more terrorist(fanboys as per u) in afghanistan in ur consulates:D
 
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It's our territory in the first place... What are we going to take? :lol:

the only thing you will take is lives of your soldiers like you did in siachen...so be a smarty pants and stay the hell away from our territories :)
 
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its all abt international community which consider Kashmir as disputed not half of Pakistan.....

soo keep barking & prepare some more terrorist(fanboys as per u) in afghanistan in ur consulates:D

Well its been 6 1/2 decades already and Kashmir is still with us, whether Pakistan and the international community likes it or not. It was with us when the world was against us, it's still here right with us when today the world is on our side. It will remain rightfully so always, whether u care to accept the reality of the situation or not.
 
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