Pak Army is ready to defend this govt as per constitution: Geo News anchor Muneeb Farooq

[IceCold]

Nejam Sethi spoke clearly that the army has turned its back on them. Judging by there hasn’t been anything from them since this fiasco backing these lot, he is right.
It has dawned quickly that they are a total disaster which has sunk Pakistan further into the abyss.
There will be no rescue at all, certainly not against the will of the people.

There is another POV as well. Have you listened to Shabir Shakir Vlog of today?
He is of the opinion that the army turning their back and imported government making nosies through their paid media outlets is just for show and as he said "upper upper sa" under sa yeh sub aik hain.
I tend to agree with his assessment. This imported government, the establishment they are all on one page and they will try to stop IK by force. Even the phone call that SMQ received and the contents of which are available hints at this.

 

[Norwegian]

@Norwegian and other fassadis

View attachment 846940

Source? Patwari Geo News?

Before that IK with 2/3 majority has to pass reform laws that will bring army and judiciary under elected government control.

Pakistan is a democracy. Can't have judiciary under govt. Army is already under govt

 

[jupiter2007]

There is another POV as well. Have you listened to Shabir Shakir Vlog of today?
He is of the opinion that the army turning their back and imported government making nosies through their paid media outlets is just for show and as he said "upper upper sa" under sa yeh sub aik hain.
I tend to agree with his assessment. This imported government, the establishment they are all on one page and they will try to stop IK by force. Even the phone call that SMQ received and the contents of which are available hints at this.

As they said, they are neutral. IMHO, Army is not going to get involved because either way, it will be major embarrassment for them.
Army will continue to play their games from behind the curtain.

All the setback IK had in 3.5 years was due to establishment and some of it was due to Fiaz Isa case.

 

[doorstar]

Source? Patwari Geo News?


Pakistan is a democracy. Can't have judiciary under govt

no, and not any qadiani-cum-yahudi source either!

 

[jupiter2007]

Source? Patwari Geo News?


Pakistan is a democracy. Can't have judiciary under govt. Army is already under govt

Judiciary is not above the law. They also need to submit tax return and they can also be investigated for corruption and bribery.

My point is to make it mandatory for everyone to be part of TAXNET including Judiciary and Army Generals. No should be above the law.

IK will have to pass major reform laws, including TAXNET/Tax returns, modify 18 amendment to avoid clash between Federal government and provinces, local body system, Police reforms (Major cities having their own police), universal healthcare and Education.

Current system is an example of “doodh ki rakhwali ke liye billi”

 

[fna]

From another end, head of state, prime minister or president, should have more involvement in military. He should often wear uniform and arrange the ranks and files. This is how our Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and his companions used to do.

So now many of the powers of COAS will be shifted to elected head of state.

they were trained for it. can you imagine gonglo shareef reading from parchi on how to maneuver a tank/drone/frigate and telling that to his under command.

not sure whether to laugh or be terrified.

but more realistically defence forces are no longer militia based, the way they were through most of the history until the past few hundred years. even american army against british in the rev war was raised from militia farmers. As a result the 2nd amendment of US constitution and all its issues. You cant expect someone off the street to start firing a howitzer.

Now if there was a robust reserves program where all adult able bodied males (women can serve any role except the tip of the spear) served different complex/simple functions for a few weeks a year and then returned to a civ life, we would have a different conversation.

Sahaba (RA) had to take off swords to show they are pilgrims, so wearing a weapon was an everyday thing. Something similar in pk would be great, but mental
health evaluation, as we see the need in us, is a must. the weapons are no longer simple 1-1, but mass destruction compared to any century previously.

 

[ghazi52]

.,.,
Not that Pindi boy....

 

[truthseeker2010]

He could still be FM like how he was previously, by being a senator.

As for Zardari, he does have his revenue stream of Sindh govt intact though.

But, I sitll don't think anyone will get convicted, our justice system is incapable of handling crimes like these and grabbing this thiefs.

One thing I'm sure about is if IK came back, he would start from GHQ and SC, rest will fall in line, or else there would only be either chaos or IK.

 

[Jango]

One thing I'm sure about is if IK came back,

That's a biiiiiiiiiiig if.

 

[truthseeker2010]

That's a biiiiiiiiiiig if.

Read my last line.

 

[Jango]

Read my last line.

Let's hope there isn't.

 

[imadul]

The game has been played for 75 years now. This time around, though, they are trying to play the same game but they have completely miscalculated. Now they want a bloodbath to happen on the streets, and this revolution is taking a bloodbath approach.
The present movement is taking a bloodbath approach to the revolution, they want to have a bloodbath on the streets. As a whole, the fault lies with our army and we are witnessing the same mistakes being made again just as they were in 1971. In the name of Allah, may He protect Pakistan and Pakistani people from these people who want to go against the will of Pakistani people.

.

Why are you saying there shall be a blood bath. There is no chance for it.
I tell you, Nun-zardari regime will also back down.
Establishment is powerless in stopping the March.

 

[Ghazwa-e-Hind]

these PDF and GEO fassadis along with some others are trying to make people believe that they need to fight the army.

but the problem they are facing is that army WILL NOT do anything until the very last second. they have refused to accept showbaaz and rana orders to act as their thugs a la model town

Yes. Army can't fire or go against their own people. PDM wants to create unnecessary chaos.

Even in 1979 Iran Revolution, the army backed out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

 

[doorstar]

One thing I'm sure about is if IK came back, he would start from GHQ

One thing I'm sure about is that no jahlee Imam Mahdi (khan); amir al momneen (fat chor); Nabi ka dhota (billo rani/sadar ghaddari) is ever gonna be allowed anywhere near the GHQ.

 

[Salik]

they were trained for it. can you imagine gonglo shareef reading from parchi on how to maneuver a tank/drone/frigate and telling that to his under command.

not sure whether to laugh or be terrified.

but more realistically defence forces are no longer militia based, the way they were through most of the history until the past few hundred years. even american army against british in the rev war was raised from militia farmers. As a result the 2nd amendment of US constitution and all its issues. You cant expect someone off the street to start firing a howitzer.

Now if there was a robust reserves program where all adult able bodied males (women can serve any role except the tip of the spear) served different complex/simple functions for a few weeks a year and then returned to a civ life, we would have a different conversation.

Sahaba (RA) had to take off swords to show they are pilgrims, so wearing a weapon was an everyday thing. Something similar in pk would be great, but mental
health evaluation, as we see the need in us, is a must. the weapons are no longer simple 1-1, but mass destruction compared to any century previously.

Imam Mehdi will come and lead. Jesus Christ will come and lead. What training will they have?

Sound mind and "قلب سلیم".


Full time uniform and training isn't everything, as we have been fully dependent on them.