PAF participates in "Red Flag" and "Green Flag"

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why indian airforce not been in this years red flag exercise and what type of fighter jets usa airforces uses to counter our F 16 block 52

Dint You see the US Pilot Criticizing the Suk 30 MKI and The Indian pilots??? Well thats why...

 

[Ishan]

why indian airforce not been in this years red flag exercise and what type of fighter jets usa airforces uses to counter our F 16 block 52

I guess 100s of crores were spent to send the Entire Team to Red Flag.. So I dont think this can happen Every times.. Did Pakistan Pay for the Exercises ???

 

[aliyusuf]

Dint You see the US Pilot Criticizing the Suk 30 MKI and The Indian pilots??? Well thats why...

No criticism of MKI apart from saying it's not as good as F-22 and the matter about FOD. I hardly call that criticism. F-22 is better (period). Yes he criticized IAF pilots in the sense that those who went there didn't use the MKI properly. He was appreciative of the MiG-21 Bisons though.

Regards

 

[aliyusuf]

I guess 100s of crores were spent to send the Entire Team to Red Flag.. So I dont think this can happen Every times.. Did Pakistan Pay for the Exercises ???

Yes they did ... that is why they are there.

Regards

 

[Join]

No criticism of MKI apart from saying it's not as good as F-22 and the matter about FOD. I hardly call that criticism. F-22 is better (period). Yes he criticized IAF pilots in the sense that those who went there didn't use the MKI properly. He was appreciative of the MiG-21 Bisons though.

Regards

nop, see the video once more, he was complaining of its avionics and warfare suit.... its radar range etc etc

 

[aliyusuf]

nop, see the video once more, he was complaining of its avionics and warfare suit.... its radar range etc etc

That was in the context of a questioner's query whether the radar was an AESA. I hardly call that criticism, he didn't say anything negative about the avionics suite. If anything, he confirmed that the MKI holds an edge over the F-15s, F-16s & the F-18s. I have both the videos in my collection. What he criticized were the tactics employed by some of the IAF pilots.

I know what I am saying. Watch both the videos once more in-sequence.

Regards

 

[fatman17]

this stickey is for PAF discussions only - please!!!

 

[aliyusuf]

this stickey is for PAF discussions only - please!!!

Sorry for inadvertently getting carried away.

Thanks for the reminder.

 

[mean_bird]

PAF F-16s enroute to Red Flag

 

[Chogy]

Fratricide is embarrassing in training, horrifying in real life, and is as inevitable as the sunrise. The primary causes of air-air "frat" are a combination of low situational awareness, training methodology, and occasionally data-link weaknesses.

During the debrief, they project the entire air war onto a giant screen using recorded ACMI data. You can see every aircraft, every shot fired. And when you watch a member of a flight turn and hammer another member of the same flight, it is with a sickening feeling and great embarrassment, as 100's of your peers are watching it all.

Does anyone know what the PAF F-16B "loadout" will be for its counter-air missions?

 

[fatman17]

for AD we have a variety of sidewinders. for Air-2-Surface we have the Maverick A/B/C and the Harm-88A/B. we have recently been supplied the 500lb and 2000lb JDAMs and kits for the interdiction mission.

i guess the F-16B load-mix will be from the above ordnance.

 

[blain2]

FM sahib, I think Chogy's question is specific to CAO profile. For that PAF will probably simulate AIM-120s (2?) and AIM-9L/Ms (2?) given that these are the AAMs we would have in our inventory.

 

[Windjammer]

PAF NO 9 Squadron F-16s at Nellis for Red Flag.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[z9-ec]

Red Flag 10-04 kicks off July 19

7/19/2010 - NELLIS AIR FORCE BASE, Nev. -- Southern Nevada residents may notice increased military aircraft activity as the Air Force conducts Red Flag 10-4 July 19-30.

Red Flag is a realistic combat training exercise involving the air forces of the United States and its allies. The exercise is hosted north of Las Vegas on the Nevada Test and Training Range--the U.S. Air Force's premier military training area with more than 12,000 square miles of airspace and 2.9 million acres of land. With 1,900 possible targets, realistic threat systems and an opposing enemy force that cannot be replicated anywhere else in the world, Nellis and the NTTR are the home of a "peacetime battlefield," providing combat air forces with the ability to train to fight together, survive together and win together.

The 414th Combat Training Squadron is responsible for executing Red Flag and the exercise is just one of a series of advanced training programs administered at Nellis AFB and on the NTTR by organizations assigned to the U.S. Air Force Warfare Center.

More than 70 aircraft will depart Nellis twice a day, in the mid-morning and again around 5 p.m. Aircraft may remain in the air for up to four hours. The flying times are scheduled to accommodate the other flying missions at Nellis and provide Red Flag participants with valuable training in planning and executing a wide-variety of combat missions.

The exercise will include U.S. forces aircraft from Nevada, North Carolina, California, South Carolina, Washington, Oklahoma and Kansas flying F-15s, F-16s, EA-6Bs, EA-18Gs, E-3s, F/A-18s, MC-130s and KC-135s. In addition to U.S. aircraft, the Royal Saudi Air Force will take part with the F-15S and the Pakistan Air Force will participate in their first-ever Red Flag with F-16Bs. The Republic of Singapore Air Force detachment at Luke AFB, Ariz. will also be participating with F-16CGs and NATO is providing additional E-3 support.