PAF JF-17 Thunder along F-16 to participate in Izmir Air Show in Turkey

[siegecrossbow]

Did Pakistan use the JF-17 in real combat situations yet?

 

[Patriot]

Did Pakistan use the JF-17 in real combat situations yet?

Nope.
(.............)

 

[CallsignAlzaeem]

Good,This rear view mirror is useful for Khalid mehmood sir to comb his hair or whatever is left of them when needed no disrespect towards him though haha Love and salute khalid sahab.

 

[razgriz19]

My concern is that, JF-17 doesn't have the bubble canopy like that of F-16s and F-15s. Doesn't it restrict the pilot's view on the back side??

it sure does but i guess it was never really a priority by PAF

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Did Pakistan use the JF-17 in real combat situations yet?

Yes it was used in WOT in FATA areas.

 

[razgriz19]

Yes it was used in WOT in FATA areas.

nope, i dont think they used thunders in combat...
it cant carry smart bombs (they are now testing it) and PAF/PA doesn't want any collateral damage

i think only mirages and f-16s are being used.

 

[SparklingCrescent]

nope, i dont think they used thunders in combat...
it cant carry smart bombs (they are now testing it) and PAF/PA doesn't want any collateral damage

i think only mirages and f-16s are being used.

I know this is off topic. But how come we haven't used our best technology, for instance our Al Khalids?

 

[razgriz19]

I know this is off topic. But how come we haven't used our best technology, for instance our Al Khalids?

well like u said al-khalid is the best tank we have in our inventory, and its quite obvious that army wants to save them for our eastern border...
however al-zarrar, which has become a fairly new tank because of extensive upgrades, has been used in combat in waziristan and other places.
and it proved to be quite effective.
couple of them were attacked by taliban with RPGs, but the tanks were strong enough to keep the crew out of harm..

 

[Areesh]

My guess is that he is Sardar Abdul-rab-Nishter.. or Zulfiqar Badar-udin Ouchkzai. I could be wrong though =)

Yes you are wrong. He is an angraiz yaar.

 

[Najam Khan]

My concern is that, JF-17 doesn't have the bubble canopy like that of F-16s and F-15s. Doesn't it restrict the pilot's view on the back side??

No its not a problem, the 'bubble canopy' gives extra advantage to the F16 pilot, but has few disadvantages too...dis-orientation is one of them. In the first 15yrs of F16, 58% mishaps and pilot related accidents were because of disorientation....PAF wants to have safe track record of JF17...the present design is just a start, who knows whats coming ahead in 15-20 yrs.

 

[epinephrine]

nope, i dont think they used thunders into combat...
it cant carry smart bombs (they are now testing it) and PAF/PA doesn't want any collateral damage

i think only mirages and f-16s are being used.

paf has used jf-17 in fata.f-16s use mostly gen purpose bombs in fata areas.during any operation the area is evacuated completely then air force is called n then army moves in.so the jets can use gpbs.still sometimes there have been civilian casualties as talibans try to hide them among the civilian population

 

[SQ8]

well like u said al-khalid is the best tank we have in our inventory, and its quite obvious that army wants to save them for our eastern border...
however al-zarrar, which has become a fairly new tank because of extensive upgrades, has been used in combat in waziristan and other places.
and it proved to be quite effective.
couple of them were attacked by taliban with RPGs, but the tanks were strong enough to keep the crew out of harm..

Perhaps the Ak isnt suited to fighting in that region could also be a reason..
And the JF has had its time in combat.. dropping Mk-84's on confirmed militant positions.
But that was that..

 

[epinephrine]

No its not a problem, the 'bubble canopy' gives extra advantage to the F16 pilot, but has few disadvantages too...dis-orientation is one of them. In the first 15yrs of F16, 58% mishaps and pilot related accidents were because of disorientation....PAF wants to have safe track record of JF17...the present design is just a start, who knows whats coming ahead in 15-20 yrs.

thats a big disadvantage in close combat.bubble canopy always helps the pilot.if it is not there in our bird then we shouldn't say that is not of much use.
almost all medium n high tech jets of US n russia have bubble canopies.e.gg F15 ,F16 ,F18, F22,LATEST SUKHOIS N MIGS.i dont know y our engineers neglected it in jf-17. according to a US f-16 test pilot at 416 flight test sqn at edwards afb there r 2 things in f-16 which r really impressive.one is the thrust n acceleration n the other is the single piece bubble canopy which gives full 360 degee view.

 

[Najam Khan]

Tht was seen in zuhai airshow aswell........FC-20? anybdy?

Come on people, are you kiding? Instead of J10 he deserve a fighter conversion first.

No PAF pilot has flown J10 yet. Neither there are any plans in near future to send pilots for it.

The J10 batch he is wearing is not official, neither its embroidered on his name...its attached by a sticker, can be removed anytime with no change in shape on his name plate. It was exchanged by August 1 aerobatic team of PLAAF during Zhuhai Air show as a good will gesture...their is nothing serious in it.

Some new JF17 pilots also wears similar JF17 insignia on their coverall, which is un-official too.

Just like other air forces, in PAF patches are alloted to specific pilots/crew members assigned to a specific program...only related people are given these, wearing un-deserved patch is an ethical crime....the exchanged patches are mostly worn by pilots/crew during those events, when they come back to Sqn they remove them.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Come on people, are you kiding? Instead of J10 he deserve a fighter conversion first.

No PAF pilot has flown J10 yet. Neither there are any plans in near future to send pilots for it.

The J10 batch he is wearing is not official, neither its embroidered on his name...its attached by a sticker, can be removed anytime with no change in shape on his name plate. It was exchanged by August 1 aerobatic team of PLAAF during Zhuhai Air show as a good will gesture...their is nothing serious in it.

Some new JF17 pilots also wears similar JF17 insignia on their coverall, which is un-official too.

Just like other air forces, in PAF patches are alloted to specific pilots/crew members assigned to a specific program...only related people are given these, wearing un-deserved patch is an ethical crime....the exchanged patches are mostly worn by pilots/crew during those events, when they come back to Sqn they remove them.

The same canarded jet patch has been seen on the uniform of 2 pilots...... This guy and Flt Lt Khalid......... Mind telling me why they are using this patch while others are not................Also i think it was confirmed my Nabil and Eagle Hanan tht PAF was indeed testing and giving their input into the FC-20 prog!

@razgriz