PAF is ready to take on any challenge: Air Chief Marshal

[Viper0011.]

I think US would think many times before planning OBL type drama...

You are right. We would "think" many times as it's a part of our mission planning. But we shall execute once and achieve our objectives. Just like we did when we attacked and killed OBL!! You should think before posting such silly statements.

 

[Sine Nomine]

You are right. We would "think" many times as it's a part of our mission planning. But we shall execute once and achieve our objectives. Just like we did when we attacked and killed OBL!! You should think before posting such silly statements.

You should not forget those dead bodies which Taliban's and Iraqis delivered back to your home and OBL drama was a face saving for dying super power.....

 

[Imtiaz_Sarwar]

Now that Pakistan is producing JF-17, our air force is gaining in strength. With excellent training they can take on any challenge as our Air Chief Marshal has rightly said. We are proud of our air force.

 

[Viper0011.]

You should not forget those dead bodies which Taliban's and Iraqis delivered back to your home and OBL drama was a face saving for dying super power.....

Really? There are idiots who have no sense in the world to make an argument. Illogical AllahuAkbar statements and jingoistic, senseless disputes and comparisons don't make sense, and don't belong to a civilized world, whether it be the East or the West. I am not the person to say stuff like this, but sadly, it's people like you, who write stuff like this post, without proper brain power behind the statement and do stupid aass comparisons. Sadly, the so called body bags of US soldiers, that you spoke so highly of, were at the cost of what? Billions lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in the shape of infrastructure and hundreds and thousands dead due to war???? What's the ratio of enemies killed vs. the US soldiers? Like 1000:1?? And you want to be proud of a couple of thousands US soldiers your friends killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Without caring or understanding the ground impact??? This is the same mentality the US has been fighting with, and now the Pakistanis themselves are fighting with. You can remain proud with your malfunctioning brain who couldn't register the enemy's loss in both the countries.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Really? There are idiots who have no sense in the world to make an argument. Illogical AllahuAkbar statements and jingoistic, senseless disputes and comparisons don't make sense, and don't belong to a civilized world, whether it be the East or the West. I am not the person to say stuff like this, but sadly, it's people like you, who write stuff like this post, without proper brain power behind the statement and do stupid aass comparisons. Sadly, the so called body bags of US soldiers, that you spoke so highly of, were at the cost of what? Billions lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in the shape of infrastructure and hundreds and thousands dead due to war???? What's the ratio of enemies killed vs. the US soldiers? Like 1000:1?? And you want to be proud of the a couple of thousands your friends in Iraq and Aghanistan killed? Without caring or understanding the ground impact??? This is the same mentality the US has been fighting with, and now the Pakistanis themselves are fighting with. You can remain proud with your malfunctioning brain who couldn't register the enemy's loss in both the countries.

Stop smoking that 3rd grade Mexican stuff,that was Allah u Akbar that fought soviets and did Taliban submitted them to NATO.no.. death and destruction is part of life and calling yourself civilized when your nation dropped two A-bombs on major civilian cities in Japan,killed million of Red Indians and Africans then still you are civilized....lol joke of history

 

[Zibago]

Stop smoking that 3rd grade Mexican stuff,that was Allah u Akbar that fought soviets and did Taliban submitted them to NATO.no.. death and destruction is part of life and calling yourself civilized when your nation dropped two A-bombs on major civilian cities in Japan,killed million of Red Indians and Africans then still you are civilized....lol joke of history

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Really? There are idiots who have no sense in the world to make an argument. Illogical AllahuAkbar statements and jingoistic, senseless disputes and comparisons don't make sense, and don't belong to a civilized world, whether it be the East or the West. I am not the person to say stuff like this, but sadly, it's people like you, who write stuff like this post, without proper brain power behind the statement and do stupid aass comparisons. Sadly, the so called body bags of US soldiers, that you spoke so highly of, were at the cost of what? Billions lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in the shape of infrastructure and hundreds and thousands dead due to war???? What's the ratio of enemies killed vs. the US soldiers? Like 1000:1?? And you want to be proud of a couple of thousands US soldiers your friends killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Without caring or understanding the ground impact??? This is the same mentality the US has been fighting with, and now the Pakistanis themselves are fighting with. You can remain proud with your malfunctioning brain who couldn't register the enemy's loss in both the countries.

I agree glorification of militants and miscreants is wrong.

 

[SQ8]

Really? There are idiots who have no sense in the world to make an argument. Illogical AllahuAkbar statements and jingoistic, senseless disputes and comparisons don't make sense, and don't belong to a civilized world, whether it be the East or the West. I am not the person to say stuff like this, but sadly, it's people like you, who write stuff like this post, without proper brain power behind the statement and do stupid aass comparisons. Sadly, the so called body bags of US soldiers, that you spoke so highly of, were at the cost of what? Billions lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in the shape of infrastructure and hundreds and thousands dead due to war???? What's the ratio of enemies killed vs. the US soldiers? Like 1000:1?? And you want to be proud of a couple of thousands US soldiers your friends killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Without caring or understanding the ground impact??? This is the same mentality the US has been fighting with, and now the Pakistanis themselves are fighting with. You can remain proud with your malfunctioning brain who couldn't register the enemy's loss in both the countries.

They wont, its the same mentality that fuelled Hitler's SS corps.

 

[Menace2Society]

Really? There are idiots who have no sense in the world to make an argument. Illogical AllahuAkbar statements and jingoistic, senseless disputes and comparisons don't make sense, and don't belong to a civilized world, whether it be the East or the West. I am not the person to say stuff like this, but sadly, it's people like you, who write stuff like this post, without proper brain power behind the statement and do stupid aass comparisons. Sadly, the so called body bags of US soldiers, that you spoke so highly of, were at the cost of what? Billions lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in the shape of infrastructure and hundreds and thousands dead due to war???? What's the ratio of enemies killed vs. the US soldiers? Like 1000:1?? And you want to be proud of a couple of thousands US soldiers your friends killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Without caring or understanding the ground impact??? This is the same mentality the US has been fighting with, and now the Pakistanis themselves are fighting with. You can remain proud with your malfunctioning brain who couldn't register the enemy's loss in both the countries.

Whilst I appreciate US and its accomplishments, in theatre of war she has been a debacle.

America will be remembered in history as a science superpower but a bungling military mess with poor campaigns and recruitment of incapable soliders.

They throw in ethnic kids and bribe them with a college education to go fight in wars and with all that firepower they are unable to deliver victories. Rubbish scared little boys who can't fight and hide behind airforce.

Poor poor poor. They are no Romans.

 

[SQ8]

Whilst I appreciate US and its accomplishments, in theatre of war she has been a debacle.

America will be remembered in history as a science superpower but a bungling military mess with poor campaigns and recruitment of incapable soliders.

They throw in ethnic kids and bribe them with a college education to go fight in wars and with all that firepower they are unable to deliver victories.

Poor poor poor. They are no Romans.

Depends on which wars you refer to. The idea of just ethnic kids fighting is a bad example. Certain states send their finest to the military, others not so. It depends on the character of the state's population and how it sees America's role in international affairs. As such however, its recent "failures" have more to do with bungled understanding of foreign policy and rather stark disconnect between the troops on the ground and those making the decisions in Washington AFTER the initial military victory has been achieved. America has "lost" when it faced insurgencies on far away lands, because no nation has even won in a land whose people dont want them there.

 

[Menace2Society]

Depends on which wars you refer to. The idea of just ethnic kids fighting is a bad example. Certain states send their finest to the military, others not so. It depends on the character of the state's population and how it sees America's role in international affairs. As such however, its recent "failures" have more to do with bungled understanding of foreign policy and rather stark disconnect between the troops on the ground and those making the decisions in Washington AFTER the initial military victory has been achieved. America has "lost" when it faced insurgencies on far away lands, because no nation has even won in a land whose people dont want them there.

Victory is declared as a publicity stunt. The ground realities are different. There are insurgencies because they have not captured what their soldiers are sent there to capture.

Take Afghanistan for example, they took Kabul, just about. But the eastern parts were fully out of control despite numerous "troop surges" and operations they could not take these areas because their soldiers are not up to it.

Humanless war technology will change this dynamic but until then US will remain a military failure.

 

[SQ8]

Victory is declared as a publicity stunt. The ground realities are different. There are insurgencies because they have not captured what their soldiers are sent there to capture.

Take Afghanistan for example, they took Kabul, just about. But Helmand and eastern parts were fully out of control despite numerous "troop surges" and operations they could not take these areas because their soldiers are not up to it.

Humanless war technology will change this dynamic but until then US will remain a military failure.

There was a lot more to just taking Kabul. The population did not respond with open arms as hoped, and without the support of the population there is no hope for any foreign power to keep a foothold in the region. The British found this out after their support waned as the years of the Raj drew close.. contrast this to their earlier invasion when every other Indian prince threw in their forces to assist the EIC.

 

[Menace2Society]

There was a lot more to just taking Kabul. The population did not respond with open arms as hoped, and without the support of the population there is no hope for any foreign power to keep a foothold in the region. The British found this out after their support waned as the years of the Raj drew close.. contrast this to their earlier invasion when every other Indian prince threw in their forces to assist the EIC.

This "winning hearts and minds" concept is media creation to maintain morality for public perception. Wars are fought to conquer.

Look at this below, this is a village completely destroyed with probably a daisy cutter. A lot of carnage went unreported, they utterly decimated Afghanistan as a desperate attempt for victory yet the ground troops provided half assed attempts at capturing what was left. They were unable to do this.

US soldiers are not well trained for combat despite the media hype.

 

[Sine Nomine]

I agree glorification of militants and miscreants is wrong.

I am not glorifying any militants or miscreants but ask mr viper where are those Iraqi WMD's,what west expects from Iraqis and Afghanis....sir it is open your hero is villein of others and today a fighting Muslim army against west is always terrorist..

US soldiers are not well trained for combat despite the media hype.

They are good trained but not die hard and naturally tough as Afghan's...

 

[MastanKhan]

Victory is declared as a publicity stunt. The ground realities are different. There are insurgencies because they have not captured what their soldiers are sent there to capture.

Take Afghanistan for example, they took Kabul, just about. But the eastern parts were fully out of control despite numerous "troop surges" and operations they could not take these areas because their soldiers are not up to it.

Humanless war technology will change this dynamic but until then US will remain a military failure.

Hi,

The americans did not even have any control 200 yds away from the fence of their forts / bases---. The military was paying payola to terrorists for safe passage of goods to U S bases----.

This war was hijacked by the CONTRACTORS within the first few days-----.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Hi,

The americans did not even have any control 200 yds away from the fence of their forts / bases---. The military was paying payola to terrorists for safe passage of goods to U S bases----.

This war was hijacked by the CONTRACTORS within the first few days-----.

Yes this is true...