Featured PAF Center of Artificial Intelligence and Computing

[ghazi52]

 

[xyx007]

AI will soon be a tool in the hands of every Airman, and the ability to interact with AI in a do-it-yourself fashion will result in an exponentially innovative landscape.Business processes such as civilian hiring and contract monitoring, predictive maintenance, automated air combat operations, aircraft damage inspection, humanitarian assistance, disaster relief and additive manufacturing. Intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions can also benefit from AI and ML.

 

[truthfollower]

next one should be training in virtual reality
"We don't want to give away all our capabilities by radiating in free space. So, its driving us more and more to how do we go into a virtualized, synthetic environment to allow us to do that training that we think we will see in combat."

 

[denel]

You cant expect Pakistan to compete with multi trillion dollar economies.

Also, in other countries, such research is usually conducted by research institutions, not militaries.

So kudos to PAF for trying, and better late than never.

You wrote correctly, frankly what is being done here is silly. Where are the educational backbone for this?

I work with a few researchers in Pak in AI who are well known world wide for their contributions already and to see this cropping up makes no sense. What is the scope etc.

 

[Bilal.]

You wrote correctly, frankly what is being done here is silly. Where are the educational backbone for this?

I work with a few researchers in Pak in AI who are well known world wide for their contributions already and to see this cropping up makes no sense. What is the scope etc.

Just because we don’t know the specifics doesn’t mean it makes no sense. In fact, an astute observer should not pass a judgement if the details are not available.

 

[Chakar The Great]

Excellent décisions, please involve civilians too.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Masha'Allah, good development.

Those who are saying Pakistan is late in this field need to understand AI is still work in progress and probably won't be fully utilised for another decade.

AI is a technology enabler like electricity and it is yet to be ubiquitous anywhere in the world.

 

[denel]

Just because we don’t know the specifics doesn’t mean it makes no sense. In fact, an astute observer should not pass a judgement if the details are not available.

I am not passing judgement; it makes no sense why they would be doing it. AI area is not something you just concot up. Where is the mathematical doctrine that supports AI etc etc, are you telling me they have now become mathematicians, statisticians etc. I can give a complete list of supporting work that is needed for any one to state they are into AI.

 

[Bilal.]

I am not passing judgement; it makes no sense why they would be doing it. AI area is not something you just concot up. Where is the mathematical doctrine that supports AI etc etc, are you telling me they have now become mathematicians, statisticians etc. I can give a complete list of supporting work that is needed for any one to state they are into AI.

We are not privy to who has been employed in the center. All we have seen is a video of inauguration. Yet we are concluding that it must be filled with inept people who have no clue about the disciplines directly and indirectly needed to support the subject and that the center has been established without even thinking about the application and scope that need to be worked on. Again, just because it’s not shown to us in a 2 minute video, I am not sure how we have drawn these conclusions.

 

[Sinnerman108]

We are not privy to who has been employed in the center. All we have seen is a video of inauguration. Yet we are concluding that it must be filled with inept people who have no clue about the disciplines directly and indirectly needed to support the subject and that the center has been established without even thinking about the application and scope that need to be worked on. Again, just because it’s not shown to us in a 2 minute video, I am not sure how we have drawn these conclusions.

With 2 decades of professional experience ( a few with PAF, PA) , if I told you that this will remain only a center
if I told you that we do not have the mathematical background
If i told you we do not have the data sources,
nor do we have the culture even appreciation for AI,

would you believe me ?

 

[Bilal.]

With 2 decades of professional experience ( a few with PAF, PA) , if I told you that this will remain only a center
if I told you that we do not have the mathematical background
If i told you we do not have the data sources,
nor do we have the culture even appreciation for AI,

would you believe me ?

With due respect. Not till I see the profiles of people working in this center, the goals envisioned for it and scopes and areas of application. If you are privy to it and having seen it you came to the above conclusion, then I would agree with you.

 

[Awan68]

Oh really ?
Please do not post stuff that is not correct.

Reading posts on this thread just goes on to show how our basic education system has deteriorated over the last few decades.

Raise a nay say without any supporting evidence, u are the perfect example of a mental slave, the kind that plagues Pakistan and thinks goras are so superior, we poor Pakistanis can never be smart enough to catch up to them, let me guess, u watch a lot of netflix lol, get out of hollywood and learn to do a simple google search, affinity with Zia Chisty at its head is a real thing, inferiority complex ridden twerps like u sat on there asses trying to sound like they know something while the real people who worked for a living built the A bomb in Pakistan, here is the thing, ur worthless opinion does not matter, of u go......... one thing i absolutely cannot tolerate, a slave trying to be confident, ughhhh...

 

[S A L M A N.]

We must take things for what they're worth.
This new institution is a great initiative by the PAF but it obviously speaks highly of the utter failure of our policymakers (i.e the civilian government) in capitalizing and investing in new technologies and in making sustainable human resource development. I have looked at government documents dating back to the 80s and they mention institutions which were created and then left to rot and which continue to serve as monuments to the criminality and insincerity of our policymakers. The way this country has been fooled and looted makes for a bloody and pathetic story.
We have built buildings for some idiot minister to inaugurate and then they serve as excellent job-handouts to our jiyalas and patwaris. We continue to do this to this day. And in all likelihood this will continue regardless of what PM IK and some of his patriotic and dedicated partners choose to do.
Our political elite and bureaucracy are a national security threat and the sooner we realize that the better chance we have of survival.
Coming to the PAF, this institution will serve as a nucleus of efforts in the AI and computing area, which may or may not have significant advantages as far as indigenous capability development is concerned.
But we don't really believe that do we?
Because it's not the PAF's fault that the country's schools produce students whose only aim in life is to get an A1 grade with 85% or more in the board exams and sit for University entry tests which judge a student's ability to cram rather than his understanding of fundamental concepts or his problem solving abilities.
The students who go through this entire process and come out on top are the 'creme de la creme' of the nation. But they really can not stand up to the demands of the modern world. Even if they can, they don't stay in Pakistan any longer to find out. They go to Germany or the US and never some back.
If they do come back out of patriotism, then they are hounded by the empty headed colonels and brigadiers that are tasked with judging who is a RAW agent and who is not. They are bullied by the military sentries at the gates of their workplace. They are regarded as second class citizens and treated as mere demonstrators when some General or Admiral or ACM is being shown around by a uniformed stooge whose only aim is to impress the boss.
The military guy in charge of their project (he's always military, along with another empty headed stooge who's responsible for 'admin' duties i.e. secorty) demands results without any regard for the subtle nuances of R&D. This directly results in fudging of test data and other information to satisfy the boss. I have bee a witness to this first hand.
So in short, what the PAF will get out of this initiative depends on what it is willing to put in. If it has the commitment and patience to put the right people at the right positions regardless of whether they're civilians or military, if it is willing to treat civilian staff with the same respect and reverance as the military staff and provide them the same perks and privileges, then maybe we can hope to achieve something.
If not, then I can totally see us fooling ourselves (no one else is fooled) 20 years later by presenting another 'indigenous' aircraft of which 58% has been made in Pakistan.

 

[Zulfiqar]

PAF, PA and PN does have a pool of specialist officers who work on the R&D/Strat org side. Airforce officers along with civilian faculty do work on fields like ML, DSP apart from teaching in unis. I know a few who taught my sibling (although the quality may vary).

This is not going to be for civilian R&D.

This most probably would be similar to below i.e Joint AI center. Collaboration is key. I hope they don't build their own " Derh eent ki masjid " and collaborate with others who are working in same field in NUST and different strat orgs.

Joint Artificial Intelligence Center

 

[Sinnerman108]

Raise a nay say without any supporting evidence, u are the perfect example of a mental slave, the kind that plagues Pakistan and thinks goras are so superior, we poor Pakistanis can never be smart enough to catch up to them, let me guess, u watch a lot of netflix lol, get out of hollywood and learn to do a simple google search, affinity with Zia Chisty at its head is a real thing, inferiority complex ridden twerps like u sat on there asses trying to sound like they know something while the real people who worked for a living built the A bomb in Pakistan, here is the thing, ur worthless opinion does not matter, of u go......... one thing i absolutely cannot tolerate, a slave trying to be confident, ughhhh...

Schooling time.

Have YOU searched what AFINITI does ? ( see how it is spelled )

Do you know what their research is in ? and what service / industry they serve ?

Why don't you go ahead and then come back and tell us about what you have learned.