PAF CAS confirmed the SU-30MKI kill in addition to MiG-21 Bison - Alan Warnes

[Myth_buster_1]

Stop clutching at straws. Do you understand the difference between formal interviews and official press conferences?

So if IAF pilot shoots down a PAF fighter jet he is not allowed to officially make a statement on that? But instead IAF chief will do a press conference?
India is not short of face saving creativeness

Please explain

how 2 R-77 were recovered from Mig-21 wreckage
1 R-73 with tail section still attached to pylon was recovered
1 R-73 with serial number that can be traced back to IAF inventory also recovered

But Abhi still shot down a F-16 because pathological liar drama queen IAF chief says so? You indiots are more brainwashed then north koreans. NEVER question government narrative! lol

Acha, so now it's a corpse. So the second unit took a burnt corpse for treatment. Got it.

Yah, PAF pilots dont wear PAF and Pak flag patches and neither they can recite islamic verses to prove they are muslims and PAF pilot. and still when they get captured and thrown in CMH, Pak military still cant identify his nationality and had to wait for Indiot twitter warrior to expose PAF blunder.

 

[newb3e]

Acha, so now it's a corpse. So the second unit took a burnt corpse for treatment. Got it.

you win!! internet keyboard tejas pilot! according to vedas there cant be 27th feb 2019 theres only 26th and india invaded Pakistan on 26th and ruled it for hundereds of years (in vedas time). yes Modi was the ruler of Akhand bharat from 26th veda 2019 to 28th veda 2019

 

[Jackdaws]

So if IAF pilot shoots down a PAF fighter jet he is not allowed to officially make a statement on that? But instead IAF chief will do a press conference?
India is not short of face saving creativeness

Please explain

how 2 R-77 were recovered from Mig-21 wreckage
1 R-73 with tail section still attached to pylon was recovered
1 R-73 with serial number that can be traced back to IAF inventory also recovered

But Abhi still shot down a F-16 because pathological liar drama queen IAF chief says so? You indiots are more brainwashed then north koreans. NEVER question government narrative! lol



Yah, PAF pilots dont wear PAF and Pak flag patches and neither they can recite islamic verses to prove they are muslims and PAF pilot. and still when they get captured and thrown in CMH, Pak military still cant identify his nationality and had to wait for Indiot twitter warrior to expose PAF blunder.

That's correct. The pilot is not allowed to make an official statement. When your Atlantique aircraft was being escorted to an Indian base after violation of airspace and tried to make a dash for it back in 1999 - it was shot down by IAF and it wasn't the pilots who met the press.

you win!! internet keyboard tejas pilot! according to vedas there cant be 27th feb 2019 theres only 26th and india invaded Pakistan on 26th and ruled it for hundereds of years (in vedas time). yes Modi was the ruler of Akhand bharat from 26th veda 2019 to 28th veda 2019

Ok. So keep trolling.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Ok. So keep trolling.

And you're not trolling LOL just LOL @Jackdaws

 

[araz]

This line of thinking is what’s problematic. Pakistan can’t on one hand claim to have shot down an SU-30 and on the other hand hide evidence. This places you in the same category as India and her F-16 shenanigans.

Where has PAF hidden evidence? You know it because PAF released it. It has chosen to do so via nonofficial channels. Not even the US releases sensitive evidence of kills. So why should one ask PAF to release the footage of the kill. If Alan Warnes is saying in an international magazine IAF lost an SU MKI, and if he is wrong IAF is within its rights to sue him in court for false propagation and defamation of its reputation. This will incite a retraction and apology. But lets see whether they do so if they are true.
A

I can show you similar videos of PAF COAS about historical wars but you people will simply deny it and again in simple language did he said MKI went down ? Btw what's your view about that 2nd pilot who was in hospital ?

DG ISPR stated that this was miscommunication in emergency state. That is a possibility. The other possibility is from the videos where eye witnesses state that the other pilot was probably dead while still in air. If he was found and was dead, then the body would have been handed back to IAF representatives as per SOP.
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[Psychic]

Sure, sure. And one unit led him to a hospital to recuperate and other was arrested. Abhinandan can be in two places at one time - when he is not an IAF pilot, he is Mandrake the Magician.

You seem to not care one bit about the maha vir chakra feat of blasting your own hip deep inside your own airspace.

Any concern for the seven "bravehearts" dispatched to next janam by their own comrades?

Any concerns for bombs falling in lawns of brigade HQ with general officers inside?

Any concerns for bombs rocking ammo dumps?

Any concern for countless contradictory claims by Indian forces?
Or the preposterous claims of hiding behind clouds and IAF marshal telling it is a good tactic?

We threatened, we came, we hammered-----In broad daylight-----like a badmash.

Your airforce is cowering ever since. But they did a good job in convincing their jingoistic public of a great victory------too bad, couldn't convince anyone else of the great success of operation bandar though.

As far as our just one statement is concerned, I already explained the statement was given during engagement. Indians made countless statements worthy of scorn during that time. You really want to go there?
You are at the end of the day, just another Indian who despite what he claims, believes in whatever baloney his government tells him.
Now muster some courage and admit to the fallacies of Indian claims like these;

All pilots and planes accounted for.
One plane missing.
Crashed due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down.
Before it was shot, it downed f16.
All Pakistani planes forced to turn back, weren't able to cross LOC.
No, they did cross LOC.
Their bombs fell inside military compounds.
Mi-17 lost due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down by air defence.
Everything is honky dory.
But our generals were few hundred metres away from where bombs fell.
We need Rafael to shift balance in our favour.
Clouds prevent radar detection.
But still every thing is awesome and honky dory.

And after a couple of weeks, two SU pilots died in an accident.

Care to tell from where this was pulled out?

Now take a good look at their faces as well while you are at it------faces of loosers.

 

[Comfortably Numb]

You seem to not care one bit about the maha vir chakra feat of blasting your own hip deep inside your own airspace.

Any concern for the seven "bravehearts" dispatched to next janam by their own comrades?

Any concerns for bombs falling in lawns of brigade HQ with general officers inside?

Any concerns for bombs rocking ammo dumps?

Any concern for countless contradictory claims by Indian forces?
Or the preposterous claims of hiding behind clouds and IAF marshal telling it is a good tactic?

We threatened, we came, we hammered-----In broad daylight-----like a badmash.

Your airforce is cowering ever since. But they did a good job in convincing their jingoistic public of a great victory------too bad, couldn't convince anyone else of the great success of operation bandar though.

As far as our just one statement is concerned, I already explained the statement was given during engagement. Indians made countless statements worthy of scorn during that time. You really want to go there?
You are at the end of the day, just another Indian who despite what he claims, believes in whatever baloney his government tells him.
Now muster some courage and admit to the fallacies of Indian claims like these;


And after a couple of weeks, two SU pilots died in an accident.

Care to tell from where this was pulled out?
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Now take a good look at their faces as well while you are at it------faces of loosers.

Ghairatmand hoia te 3 maheene hor chupp rahega

 

[Jackdaws]

You seem to not care one bit about the maha vir chakra feat of blasting your own hip deep inside your own airspace.

Any concern for the seven "bravehearts" dispatched to next janam by their own comrades?

Any concerns for bombs falling in lawns of brigade HQ with general officers inside?

Any concerns for bombs rocking ammo dumps?

Any concern for countless contradictory claims by Indian forces?
Or the preposterous claims of hiding behind clouds and IAF marshal telling it is a good tactic?

We threatened, we came, we hammered-----In broad daylight-----like a badmash.

Your airforce is cowering ever since. But they did a good job in convincing their jingoistic public of a great victory------too bad, couldn't convince anyone else of the great success of operation bandar though.

As far as our just one statement is concerned, I already explained the statement was given during engagement. Indians made countless statements worthy of scorn during that time. You really want to go there?
You are at the end of the day, just another Indian who despite what he claims, believes in whatever baloney his government tells him.
Now muster some courage and admit to the fallacies of Indian claims like these;


And after a couple of weeks, two SU pilots died in an accident.

Care to tell from where this was pulled out?
View attachment 566588
Now take a good look at their faces as well while you are at it------faces of loosers.

Truth in India gets out. Whether it is the debacle of 1962 against the Chinese or India losing its chopper to friendly fire. India did not hide it. How easy would a cover up be in that case?

Now compare that to Pakistan - when are you releasing the full Hamadoor Rehman Commission report? It's been what - 50 years?

We've heard it over the years. "India attacked in 65". "USA and China are helping Pak win in East Pak". "No army regulars in Kargil". If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

And capturing a pilot in your own territory is par for course. Imagine Germans lauding themselves for capturing British pilots over Germany in Ww2.

You can make as many excuses as you like. Truth will eventually come out. Maybe India is lying. Maybe Pak is. Give it some time.

 

[Sergi]

I will tell my aunti to find out from near by tea stall where the tea that we gave HUMILiaTEd Emberassed and Trashed Indian pilot came from.
Now Indians have a habit of asking to boycott things that Pakistan uses .... so in case if it was an Indian tea would you guys boycott your own tea????


How stupid this is getting. Indians have been totally trashed on all the educated informed and serious forums for their stupid not so surgical strikes, ghost paper F16 shot down and now they are desperate to claim that the bloody tea was Indian..... what a bloody joke of a nation.

Mr. Shaik-Chilli your understanding is NOT my issue. Learn to read so you might understand what others are saying. You should try may be someday you will reach there.
Or may be go to school again if you were there in first place

 

[Falcon26]

Where has PAF hidden evidence? You know it because PAF released it. It has chosen to do so via nonofficial channels. Not even the US releases sensitive evidence of kills. So why should one ask PAF to release the footage of the kill. If Alan Warnes is saying in an international magazine IAF lost an SU MKI, and if he is wrong IAF is within its rights to sue him in court for false propagation and defamation of its reputation. This will incite a retraction and apology. But lets see whether they do so if they are true.
A

DG ISPR stated that this was miscommunication in emergency state. That is a possibility. The other possibility is from the videos where eye witnesses state that the other pilot was probably dead while still in air. If he was found and was dead, then the body would have been handed back to IAF representatives as per SOP.
A

Alan Warnes never claimed that a SU-30 was shot down either in official writing for a magazine or through a tweet. He simply quoted the PAF Chief. I would expect you to know this basic distinction.

 

[Flight of falcon]

Yawn. Still no counter point. Just a lot of gas.

Bro what kind of stupid logic is this? First you guys make an idiotic claim then you ask us to prove it wrong and then we simply say move on not worth commenting on this stupidity you claim

Kamal hai ??? Trolling kaha hai ???
Hum to chai ki baat kar rahe the. Thodi na CUP ki
Any famous brand of Keniyan tea ???

Beta just like the tomatoes and onions you eat from Pakistan we may have tea and garlic from India. And yes we don’t import cow urine. There is too much demand for that in your country where apparently tea consumption is going down and cow urine use is going up.

By the way I gotta give credit to poster name Jackass. He is persistent in his stupidity and trolling.

My request to my Indian brothers please please get your head out of Modi’s rear end and stop listening to Modi army and Modi airforce versions. There is truth out there and no matter how humiliating it may be for Indians it is the truth so seek it.

 

[SQ8]

The crux is the 27th engagement - please stick to that.

 

[Rahil khan]

Ok sir , and after being addressed as a kiddo who is 80 born I feel previlgsed with ur address so let me thank you for that and for the think that you challenge America by being a Somalia

Hats off . Your kids are learning from u man. I mean @WebMaster what a platform to educate Pakistan

As Indian you are justified to say such things...Jano tumhara qasoor nahi.

 

[araz]

Alan Warnes never claimed that a SU-30 was shot down either in official writing for a magazine or through a tweet. He simply quoted the PAF Chief. I would expect you to know this basic distinction.

And the PAF air chief would just talk like that and Warnes will just "quote" him like that. Are we delving into symantics here? Look the point Iam making is that the PAF has given out enough indications to the fact that aMig 21 and an SU 30 were shot down. No one doubts the 21 as the debris was in Pak possession. The SU fell in IOK and debris is not located. There maybe evidence in PAF possession which it will not release. Kaiser Tufail has pointed out the SU kill. The badges on PAF pilots point to that. If beyond thatcyou need more evidence then I dont think you will get it from PAF. Now if you dont believe it let us agree to disagree and move on.
A

 

[MilSpec]

And the PAF air chief would just talk like that and Warnes will just "quote" him like that. Are we delving into symantics here? Look the point Iam making is that the PAF has given out enough indications to the fact that aMig 21 and an SU 30 were shot down. No one doubts the 21 as the debris was in Pak possession. The SU fell in IOK and debris is not located. There maybe evidence in PAF possession which it will not release. Kaiser Tufail has pointed out the SU kill. The badges on PAF pilots point to that. If beyond thatcyou need more evidence then I dont think you will get it from PAF. Now if you dont believe it let us agree to disagree and move on.
A

Except, India has never hidden its crashes. Not even the fratricide, not test crashes and above that there is a Comptroller Auditor General, that will track down a missing screw unaccounted for, there is no chance a mki and two pilots vanish just like that. If two pilots were missing in combat, parliament to supreme court would be ringing with the repercussion, not to mention the Abdullah's, kejriwals and the Gandhis would have pounced upon it for electioneering.