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PAF CAS confirmed the SU-30MKI kill in addition to MiG-21 Bison - Alan Warnes

I am saying that it would be much easier for you to refute it and embarrass India if your narrative is correct. Pentagon itself reiterated that it did no count.
only from Indian source, And Pentagon correspondent for foreign policy has no value, what do you want to confirmed by whom that you Satisfied, from the mouth of the President of USA or secretary of defense announces then you satisfy that no F-16 missing for PAF @Jackdaws :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:

I can show you similar videos of PAF COAS about historical wars but you people will simply deny it and again in simple language did he said MKI went down ? Btw what's your view about that 2nd pilot who was in hospital ?
you clam only one missing in action so we gave you abhi, second pilot might be dead or still in our custody, that you only claim one, BTW you have a good bedtime stories by your vedic/mighty IAF @Dadizonline ;):enjoy:

You can mock my faith and what not like any keyboard warrior frothing at the mouth - but you simply don't have a counter argument. So keep frothing and keep trying to mock my faith which is shared by millions of your own countrymen too. So there goes.
Currently we are all keyboard warrior included you, but you (indians) lack logic/commonsense, world buys/support Pakistani narratives on 26/27 FEB air battles and laughing at India @Jackdaws
 
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only from Indian source, And Pentagon correspondent for foreign policy has no value, what do you want to confirmed by whom that you Satisfied, from the mouth of the President of USA or secretary of defense announces then you satisfy that no F-16 missing for PAF @Jackdaws :hitwall::hitwall::hitwall:


you clam only one missing in action so we gave you abhi, second pilot might be dead or still in our custody, that you only claim one, BTW you have a good bedtime stories by your vedic/mighty IAF @Dadizonline ;):enjoy:


Currently we are all keyboard warrior included you, but you (indians) lack logic/commonsense, world buys/support Pakistani narratives on 26/27 FEB air battles and laughing at India @Jackdaws
World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does. That Italian journalist also backed India's claim of deaths in Balakot.
So we both have our narratives and have enough sources to back them. We will obviously like to believe our country. I am not saying I blindly follow my Govt. - especially this one which tends to exaggerate and build a nationalistic narrative for its own ends.

My point is about Abhinandan and his interrogation, nothing else.
 
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That Italian journalist also backed India's claim of deaths in Balakot.
You are damn stubborn. (In a negative way). Aren't you?

Still crying about casualties after being debunked over and over again.

You believe him because you want to. Not because he is in your words "a source to back your claims".

300 killed.
Camp completely destroyed.
Camp not destroyed, we made holes in the roof and bombs blasted inside.
We don't know how many killed.
Now after all of above anyone who toes the line of hundreds killed is nothing but a liar.

The image is virtually unchanged from an April 2018 satellite photo of the facility. There are no discernible holes in the roofs of buildings, no signs of scorching, blown-out walls, displaced trees around the madrasa or other signs of an aerial attack.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V
In face of all other reputable papers, you bring one obscure journalist who has neither visited Pak nor has assessed satellite photos. And then you say " we both have sources to back up our claims". As if your source is of any substance.

Even if there were casualties, it's still a shame that a madrassa full of children was targeted by a professional force. You OTOH seem to be very proud of it.


I am not saying I blindly follow my Govt. - especially this one which tends to exaggerate and build a nationalistic narrative for its own ends.
You seem to be though.

Despite the failure of strikes, you have HT and ANI sources to back you up which are sufficient for you.
BTW which is famous tea in Pak. Just curious
It's not an Indian brand. None of the top ten brands is Indian.
 
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stop crying.. u said indian defencj personnel are not allowed to give interview yet i proved u wrong by providing iaf chief give false information about abhi shooting f16
Stop clutching at straws. Do you understand the difference between formal interviews and official press conferences?
 
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World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does.
When an Indian fighter pilot who had been captured by Pakistan was released on Friday, it capped a humiliating episode for India and a surreal week for him. -THE NEW YORK TIMES

Want more?

That is despite the fact that they have to sell tones of stuff and weapons to India.
 
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You are damn stubborn. (In a negative way). Aren't you?

Still crying about casualties after being debunked over and over again.

You believe him because you want to. Not because he is in your words "a source to back your claims".

300 killed.
Camp completely destroyed.
Camp not destroyed, we made holes in the roof and bombs blasted inside.
We don't know how many killed.
Now after all of above anyone who toes the line of hundreds killed is nothing but a liar.

The image is virtually unchanged from an April 2018 satellite photo of the facility. There are no discernible holes in the roofs of buildings, no signs of scorching, blown-out walls, displaced trees around the madrasa or other signs of an aerial attack.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V
In face of all other reputable papers, you bring one obscure journalist who has neither visited Pak nor has assessed satellite photos. And then you say " we both have sources to back up our claims". As if your source is of any substance.

Even if there were casualties, it's still a shame that a madrassa full of children was targeted by a professional force. You OTOH seem to be very proud of it.



You seem to be though.

Despite the failure of strikes, you have HT and ANI sources to back you up which are sufficient for you.

It's not an Indian brand. None of the top ten brands is Indian.
I am not buying anything. I am merely saying that there is too much fog. It is easy for either side to buy or debunk the other one's narrative and that satisfies both populations. Anyways, as I said Modi govt is prone to exaggeration. That is for internal consumption of their chest thumping cheerleaders.

When an Indian fighter pilot who had been captured by Pakistan was released on Friday, it capped a humiliating episode for India and a surreal week for him. -THE NEW YORK TIMES

Want more?

That is despite the fact that they have to sell tones of stuff and weapons to India.
Who is disputing that Abhinandan was captured?
 
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World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does. That Italian journalist also backed India's claim of deaths in Balakot.
So we both have our narratives and have enough sources to back them. We will obviously like to believe our country. I am not saying I blindly follow my Govt. - especially this one which tends to exaggerate and build a nationalistic narrative for its own ends.

My point is about Abhinandan and his interrogation, nothing else.
in which world do you live in, within hours of Balakot strike international satellite experts from around the world said you hit nothing but one dead crow and some killed some trees , and Italian journalist had come after 4 month of incident, i can shows you lots of world renounced international press/news leaks sites that said you hit nothing, you're (India) are blind not world is blind @Jackdaws
And what is point about Abhi and his interrogation you have @Jackdaws
 
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Who is disputing that Abhinandan was captured?
"World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does."

We said we humiliated India.
They bought our narrative and said the same.

If it was India humiliating us as per Indian narrative, and the world not buying our narrative, they wouldn't have said that.

They and others said exactly what we said (minus MKI claim). If that's not buying our narrative then IDK what it is? Maybe they're buying Indian narrative when they say India was humiliated.
 
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World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does. That Italian journalist also backed India's claim of deaths in Balakot.
So we both have our narratives and have enough sources to back them. We will obviously like to believe our country. I am not saying I blindly follow my Govt. - especially this one which tends to exaggerate and build a nationalistic narrative for its own ends.

My point is about Abhinandan and his interrogation, nothing else.
Every nutjob is n0t a journalist..really?..its insult calling that thing a journalist
 
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in which world do you live in, within hours of Balakot strike international satellite experts from around the world said you hit nothing but one dead crow and some killed some trees , and Italian journalist had come after 4 month of incident, i can shows you lots of world renounced international press/news leaks sites that said you hit nothing, you're (India) are blind not world is blind @Jackdaws
And what is point about Abhi and his interrogation you have @Jackdaws
Ok

Every nutjob is n0t a journalist..really?..its insult calling that thing a journalist
Sure. That's fine by me.

"World buys Pak narrative? In which alternate universe? Maybe China does."

We said we humiliated India.
They bought our narrative and said the same.

If it was India humiliating us as per Indian narrative, and the world not buying our narrative, they wouldn't have said that.

They and others said exactly what we said (minus MKI claim). If that's not buying our narrative then IDK what it is? Maybe they're buying Indian narrative when they say India was humiliated.
Your narrative is that foggy. Your claim was 2 Indian planes shot down. 2 Indian pilots captured with 1 of them being treated in hospital. Then you changed it.
 
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Your narrative is that foggy. Your claim was 2 Indian planes shot down. 2 Indian pilots captured with 1 of them being treated in hospital. Then you changed it.
If I start pointing out inconsistencies in Indian narrative, I would need a whole page.

2 pilots reports came from two different units who sighted the same pilot---during the time when engagement was going on. That was corrected within hours.

Your narrative is that foggy
Really? We didn't make any changes in our narrative, you did.

Some Indian official somersaults;
All pilots and planes accounted for.
One plane missing.
Crashed due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down.
Before it was shot, it downed f16.
All Pakistani planes forced to turn back, weren't able to cross LOC.
No, they did cross LOC.
Their bombs fell inside military compounds.
Mi-17 lost due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down by air defence.
Everything is honky dory.
But our generals were few hundred metres away from where bombs fell.
We need Rafael to shift balance in our favour.
Clouds prevent radar detection.
But still every thing is awesome and honky dory.

and the list goes on and on. If you add unofficial stuff like Shazazuddin or the so called pilot mistaken for a Sikh(When every second Pakistani keeps a big@ss beard) to the claim that debri has F16 engine. The sheer amusement value becomes really great.
 
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If I start pointing out inconsistencies in Indian narrative, I would need a whole page.

2 pilots reports came from two different units who sighted the same pilot---during the time when engagement was going on. That was corrected within hours.


Really? We didn't make any changes in our narrative, you did.

Some Indian official somersaults;
All pilots and planes accounted for.
One plane missing.
Crashed due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down.
Before it was shot, it downed f16.
All Pakistani planes forced to turn back, weren't able to cross LOC.
No, they did cross LOC.
Their bombs fell inside military compounds.
Mi-17 lost due to technical fault.
No, it was shot down by air defence.
Everything is honky dory.
But our generals were few hundred metres away from where bombs fell.
We need Rafael to shift balance in our favour.
Clouds prevent radar detection.
But still every thing is awesome and honky dory.

and the list goes on and on. If you add unofficial stuff like Shazazuddin or the so called pilot mistaken for a Sikh(When every second Pakistani keeps a big@ss beard) to the claim that debri has F16 engine. The sheer amusement value becomes really great.
Sure, sure. And one unit led him to a hospital to recuperate and other was arrested. Abhinandan can be in two places at one time - when he is not an IAF pilot, he is Mandrake the Magician.
 
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Sure, sure. And one unit led him to a hospital to recuperate and other was arrested. Abhinandan can be in two places at one time - when he is not an IAF pilot, he is Mandrake the Magician.
Keep blabbering without a base it could be IAF Pilot, we see in picture from IAF wreckage there was a burned corpse along IAF jet wreckage @Jackdaws
 
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