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PAF CAS confirmed the SU-30MKI kill in addition to MiG-21 Bison - Alan Warnes

does it matter?
the fact is that it was shot down,the fact is that Abhi none done had the most expensive tea of his life, the fact is that the price of abhi's tea was a mig-21..
what do you got?

It does matter for credibility. Pilots are living life for a real time action for the entire career and suddenly their kills are not appreciated to support lies, martyrdom is not acknowledged..
 
It does matter for credibility. Pilots are living life for a real time action for the entire career and suddenly their kills are not appreciated to support lies, martyrdom is not acknowledged..
when their is no evidence of his kill then why are you being stubborn?
you got nothing to prove that he scored a kill while we have got everything to prove that iaf was embarrassed..
mig-21 can carry total 4 air to air missiles and all have been recovered if you saw our ISPR's tweet so if all are recovered then how did he shot down anything whether its f-16,jf-17 or f-22 lol..
 
Indeed!.........IF the Sukhoi MK-30 was shot down by a JF-17 then it means Pakistan has joined the ranks of a select few nations who can indigenously produce high tech advanced weapons systems, comparable to the best in the world. If it was shot down by an F-16 then it means the americans don't give a damn about the indians and their relationship with them.
Let us go by the Pak accounts and both the fighters with the kill were JFTs. The US would prefer it that way as they would not want to upset the dhotis at the moment.
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huh? wait no, what? four with the helicopter???
1. mig21 bis
2. su30 mki
3. mi17
4. wha...modi's ego???
There was another Mig 21 that went down in the area due to "technical fault" around the same time. Dhoris have an A hole so big due to the BVRs that it conveniently swallowed the third kill. Actually it tried to engulf the MKI kill. The M21 was open news item.
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Let us go by the Pak accounts and both the fighters with the kill were JFTs. The US would prefer it that way as they would not want to upset the dhotis at the moment.
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There was another Mig 21 that went down in the area due to "technical fault" around the same time. Dhoris have an A hole so big due to the BVRs that it conveniently swallowed the third kill. Actually it tried to engulf the MKI kill. The M21 was open news item.
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really? conflicting stories out their that the 4th was a mirage2k but no confirmation so I never paid any attention to it.
 
Their faces, their body language was one of humiliation.

you really think they and their media know the meaning or evening have the meaning of the word "humiliation" in their dictionary? if there is i think it would be synonym for "baighairiti"
 
India bombs Balakot.
Sushma in China announces immediate deescalation.
ISPR announces because of bad weather none can visit the site on the day of bombing.
ISPR arranges a tour after more than a month with cute little kids reading Quran.
Only gullible people will believe nothing happened in Balakot.
On this count IAF/GOI is also guilty of not sharing images.

On that day 2 parachutes went down from one aircraft. It has been discussed in this forum. I believe it is most likely a F16D. How many F16Ds PAF has? 8? Just line them up and that will shut up every one up including Indian def minister.



Even if we take your consensus word of one year ago, yes Pak is guilty of training jihadists. India has the right to retaliate.
Yes , ISPR also harry potter on side

and thus conjured satellites to take fake photos..

it also conjured bbc hindi reporter out of thin air within couple of days ..who reported from the spot..

But indians spells are even better when they conjured their spell an f16 fell out of the sky and got destroyed ..(as mig21 had all if its missles intact)

but we have dumbledore he used a duplication spell thus USA count of f16 was normal ....

The above explanation is more resonable than yours explanation of f16 being lost depsite normal count and strikes happenings despite undeniable SAT images

This is the reporter harry potter conjured look at the date
 
Did I said anything about our strength in that reply ?
I only said what a coincidence .
Keeping Abhinadan for at least one week could have become a goldmine for PAF .
A senior officer he is ,a Wing Commander , knows lot about our AF.And you also knows that very well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...istan-india-flight-disruption-intl/index.html
Link.

Kulbhushan Yadav where does he come from?
That guy was a business man for his own purpose .We have such crores of business men in world .
If they are in trouble GoI will help them.
We cant see any link here.

Now you are in desperation.
Prime Minister didnt said anything .
He took some decision and we saw that was effective


Your PM Bollywood fictional so called decisions mean Jackshite.

You need to listen to your senior IAF official briefing in the aftermath of PAF 27th Feb surgical strikes on India , where he clearly mentioned that Pakistan committed an act of war by targeting Indian military installations. Now connect that with your FM revelation that IAF didn't target any Pakistani military or civilian infra.

Remember what DG ISPR said. We will dominate the escalation ladder, and we have. In response to so called targeting of terrorist camp, Pakistan targeted Indian military installations (with apparently Bippin in dev HQ), shooting down two IAF jets as collateral damages. I consider IAF jets being shotdown as collateral because they were not part of the plan, the real deal was the 6 Indian military sites hit by Pakistani SOWs deep inside Indian controlled territory.

The Indian reaction to 27th aftermath is nothing short of meek surrender. Neither Modi, and more importantly, Indian establishment got balls for further escalation.
 
Wait a minute as . Undecided.

  • Balakot was not hit but then again, 300+ were killed. Indian Media Mistake.
  • BJP says no casualties were intended hence, no kill but delivered the message. Minister Mistake.
  • IAF did not reach Balakot but SOW launched due to wind. Nature Mistake.
  • Spice-2000 is an AI bomb, goes in without crater damage & eliminate targets. Alleged Camp Mistake.
  • Spice 2000 is not a Bomb but a Kit. Professionals Mistake.
  • Initial provided Balakot SAT images proven fake/stolen. Google Earth etc Mistake.
  • Indian FM relies on SAT images on Social Media, proven wrong/old. Social Media Mistake.
  • PAF retaliated at Six Points inside IoK. Israeli Defence Equipment Mistake.
  • India doesn't have Rafale to counter PAF. France Mistake.
  • MI-17V5 was hit by Israeli SAM.. Israeli Mistake.
  • MI-17V5 pilot did not follow SOP claimed six lives. Pilot Mistake.
  • Abhinandan did not follow SOP & disobeyed direct orders. Abhinandan Mistake.
  • All Indian AWACs were in shift change/Turn around/Change over/Tarmac. AWACs mistake.
  • No AWACs but images are available, proven to be doctored. Photo Shop Mistake.
  • An AMRAAM Piece is found & not the F-16 wreckage/loss/even a single bolt. PAF Mistake.
  • Int'l Observers confirms PAF F-16 fleet count/all accounted for. US, Pentagon, Source Mistake.
  • Sweden provided SAAB AW&EC birds. Sweden Mistake.
  • F-16 were used. US Mistake.
  • SU MKI can dodge 6 AMRAAMs but did not take a single shot. Russian Mistake.
  • SU-30 MKI crashed on the same time/day & claimed to be Tech Failure. Russian Mistake.
  • Abhinandan did not fire single missile. PAF or Russia Mistake.
  • Alan Warnes interviewed CAS, provided with Proof. Alan Warnes mistake.

See India has nothing to do with this all as it is always others mistake. And if Modi does it again, will be beaten Black & Blue again like this. The said "If" has nothing to do with the fact rather Modi's own game killing own Military for Election. IoK & youth rise is what Indian Army sowed for.
Great post! Now keep that glass of water away from @SrNair so he does not try to drown himself in it. The indians have been exposed so badly trying to lie about a fiasco they dont know what else to do.
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Great post! Now keep that glass of water away from @SrNair so he does not try to drown himself in it. The indians have been exposed so badly trying to lie about a fiasco they dont know what else to do.
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Sir, do you expect anything close to reality from Indian side? I am sure you don't like many of us. Had it been to reveal the real thing happened on that day; picture today would have been different to discuss. I have inked more of those twists in different threads as well and to be honest with, lost the count of Indian tales. I am sure & convinced that these stories will keep coming unless we are tired to debunk as after all, there is a limit to pay attention to the lies or call them on every time. Even international media is uninterested except for few quality shares. The above list contains what I remember and there is still need of more additions in coming days that we may read. Either we will bang our head with the wall or we wouldn't be paying more attention.
 
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