Outgoing Pakistan Navy chief details procurement progress

[Rafi]

Rafi sb what this Habra thing ?plus where u see New jet coming from ?or we may get more F16s or j16 or SU family reason I am saying mattis coming Pak must bring come carrots as well .

People will

Rafi sb what this Habra thing ?plus where u see New jet coming from ?or we may get more F16s or j16 or SU family reason I am saying mattis coming Pak must bring come carrots as well .

Missile will be game changer

 

[The Deterrent]

So babur will be used in conventional too,

as surface ships don't carry nuclear warheads.

Meet the RUR-05 ASROC.

 

[khanasifm]

2015 news naval chief Zakaullah was it of Country ??

 

[Zarvan]

OCTOBER 09, 2017 | 05:42 PM
پاکستان چین سے بحری جہاز اور 8 آبدوزیں خریدے گا






















پاکستان اپنے دوست ملک چین سے بحری جہاز اور 8 آبدوزیں خریدے گا، بحری جہاز کے لئے ایک سودے پر دستخط بھی ہوگئے ہیں۔

چینی سرکاری اخبار گلوبل ٹائمز کے مطابق چین پاکستان کو ہتھیار برآمد کرنے والے بڑے ممالک میں سے ایک ہے، بیجنگ کے اسلحے کی تجارت میں مسلسل اضافہ ہورہا ہے، اسلام آباد بھی 8 آبدوزیں خریدنے کا منصوبہ بنارہا ہے ۔

اخبار نے فوجی ماہرین کے حوالے سے کہا کہ یہ کوئی حیران کن بات نہیں ہے کیونکہ فوجی ہتھیاروں کی تحقیق اور ترقی میں چینی اہلیت میں مسلسل اضافہ ہورہا ہے بلکہ جدیدترین ہتھیاروں کی تیار ی اور پیداوار میں ترقی کررہا ہے۔

بحریہ کے ایک ماہر لی جی کا حوالہ دیتے ہوئے اخبار لکھتا ہے کہ چین حالیہ برسوں کے دوران عالمی اسلحے کی صنعت کا ایک بڑا تیار کنندہ بن کر سا منے آیا ہے اور وہ چھوٹے ہتھیاروں سے ترقی کر کے اب جدید ترین ہتھیار کررہا ہے کیونکہ چین میں ہتھیاروں کی برآمد کے سلسلے میں سخت قوانین لاگو کئے ہیں ۔

گزشتہ 5 برسوں کے دوران چینی ہتھیاروں کی فروخت میں اضافہ ہوا ہے اور اسی عرصے کے دوران چین کا ہتھیاروں کی عالمی تجارت میں 6اعشارئی2فیصد کا حصہ بڑھ کر 7اعشاریہ4فیصد تک پہنچ گیا ہے۔

امریکی جریدے نیشنل انٹریسٹ نےبھی چینی ہتھیاروں کی جرمنی ،فرانس اور برطانیہ تک برآمد کے حوالے سے رپورٹ شائع کی تھی اور لکھا تھاکہ چین اب دنیا کو ہتھیار برآمد کرنے والا تیسرا بڑا ملک ہے۔

ایک رپورٹ کے مطابق امریکا دنیا بھر میں کم از کم 100ممالک کو اسلحہ فروخت کرتا ہے، اس کے فوجی اسلحہ کے مقابلے میں چینی اسلحہ قیمت میں بھی کم ہے اور بعد از فروخت سروس فراہم کرنے میں بھی چینی زیادہ سہولت دیتے ہیں، اس لئے اسلحہ کی فروخت میں اس کی ساکھ بہتر ہے۔

دفاعی ماہر لی نے مثال پیش کرتے ہوئے کہا کہ امریکہ نے بھارت کو ایف 16طیارے فروخت کئے جو قیمت میں بھی زیادہ تھے اور وہ زائد المیعاد بھی تھے، چین پاکستان کو جو جدید ترین ہتھیار اور آبدوزیں فروخت کررہا ہے وہ ایک اچھی مثال ہے، یہ آبدوزیں چین نے خود ڈیزائن کی ہیں، چینی ہتھیاروں کی کارکردگی بھی امریکی اور روسی ہتھیاروں کے مقابلے میں بہتر رہی ہے۔

چین 3 اصولوں پر ہتھیار برآمد کرتا ہے جن کا مقصد اپنے خریدار کی قانونی دفاعی اہلیت کو بہتر بنانے میں مدد دینا، عالمی اورعلاقائی امن و سلامتی کو بہتر بنانا اور خریدار کی اندرونی پالیسیوں میں عدم مداخلت ہے۔

https://jang.com.pk/latest/386556-pakistan-will-buy-war-ship-and-8-submarines-from-china

 

[Muhammad Omar]

2015 news naval chief Zakaullah was it of Country ?? View attachment 430396

What the F more F-22P Frigates ????

 

[Gryphon]

Brief Analysis on Zarb missile
by: @TheOccupiedKashmir

The first test of Zarb AShM was announced by Pakistan Navy in April 2016. Zarb is widely believed to be the Pakistani designation of the Chinese C-602 AShM (possibly produced locally).

-> Land-based Zarb: The Zarb was tested from a land-based launcher in April 2016.

The Pakistan Navy tested an unidentified land-based AShM in March 2017. The officially provided coordinates of the area where the test was carried out indicate a range upto 300 km. Based on the range and the fact that the test was again carried out from the coastal region, the missile has been assessed as Zarb.

-> Ship-based Zarb: No Zarb test from any surface ship has been publicly announced. New AShM launchers seen on PNS Himmat have been assessed as Zarb based on the following observations:

(i) The launchers appear very identical to C-602/YJ-62 launchers in PLAN service and significantly different from AShM launchers currently in PN service.
(ii) The official website of KS&EW notes 'installation of indigenously built Missiles System' as one of the important achievements in the PNS Himmat project. The Pakistan Navy has previously mentioned Zarb as an 'indigenous' anti-ship missile.
(iii) The Pakistan Navy intends to use Azmat class FACs (range: 1000 nautical miles) as littoral A2/AD assets. As such, no LACM capability on Azmat class is conceivable.

Chinese AShM family

PNS Himmat AShM launchers

 

[Basel]

Zarb = C-602 (Coastal AShM)
Harba = Babur-2 (Ship-launched) AShM. Not test-fired from any surface vessel yet.

If Zarb is C-602 then it must have max range of 400kms as it's now local product.

 

[khanasifm]

 

[khanasifm]

May-2010
INTERVIEW

Captain Mirza Foad Amin Baig
Commanding Officer, PNS Zulfiqar

The first of Pakistan's four Sword-class frigates, PNS Zulfiqar, is preparing for a final sea inspection later in 2010 before being declared fully operational. Capt.Baig spoke to Guy Tormens when the ship visited Doha, Qatar.

Launched by China State Shipbuilding Corporation at its Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai on 19th April 2008, PNS Zulfiqar - the first of Pakistan Navy's (PN's) four Sword-class (F-22P) frigates - was commissioned on 30th July 2009.

Having completed the technical acceptance process followed by pier-side and at-sea training, the ship's company commenced a delivery voyage that took Zulfiqar to Manado for Indonesia's International Fleet Review (12-19 August), Port Kalang in Malaysia (27-30 August) and Colombo, Sri Lanka (5-7 Sept). The frigate arrived in Karachi on 13 September and was inducted into the PN fleet on 19 September.

"the remainder 0f 2009 and early 2010 was taken up by testing our sensors and weapons in home waters" says Capt. Mirza Foad Amin Baig, the Commanding Officer."in early March we sailed from Karachi for a deployment to the Arabian Gulf, before taking part in DIMDEX 2010 (The 2nd Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition in Qatar, we successfully fired C-802 missiles in the Northern Arabian sea on 12 March, and on our way to Doha we conducted passex serials with both the Saudi navy and the Qatari naval forces.

Despite its strong visual resemblances to the Chinese navy's Jiangwei II-class (Type 053H3) frigates, Capt. Baig says the 3,144-ton Zulfiqar and its sister ships were designed to specific Pakistani requirements and incorporate many features hiitherto unknown in PN vessels. " most obvious are the radar cross-section reduction measures, clearly visible in the hull, main gun and the slightly angling superstructure". he notes." A lot of effort was also put into infrared signature, noise and electro-magnetic emission reduction. She is also the first major surface combatant of the PN to have a high level of automation on board".

A integrated platform management system controls the engines, hull services, electrical distribution and damage-control systems,"Zulfiqar has been fitted with a sophisticated German MTU damage-control system. Automatic detectors and sensor systems ensure an early warning for any damage occuring in any operational situation" says Capt.Baig. "Buoyancy is assured with two adjacent compartments flooded and a sprinkler system is fitted throughout the ship. these enhanced damage-control capabilities and the in-built redundency are important factors for unsupported long-distance crossings".Designed primarily for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and ant-surface warfare (ASuW), Zulfiqar also has a local area self-defense capability."I dare say that a Sword-class unit packs almost the combined fire-power of our six Tariq-class (Ex-UK RN Amazon-class (Type-21)) frigates. We feature quite a few capabilities not found on the pther Pakistani frigates".

The ASuW suite consists of two quadruple C-802 launchers (CSS-N-8'Saccade') and a 76mm gun based on the Russian AK-176M weapon. ASW assets comprise two triple ET-52C 324mm torpedo tubes, two sextuple RDC-32 rocket launchers and an Echo Type 5 hull-mounted active search and track sonar. An octuple launcher for FM-90N anti-air missiles is located forward of the bridge and two Type 730 30mm seven-barrel guns are provided for close-in defence (CIWS).

"The embarked Harbin Z-9EC helicopter provides us with over-the-horizon targeting for the C-802 missiles as well as a long-range detection capability and anti-submarine capability",Capt.Baig states."Our combat management suite is based on the chinese ZKJ-3C (a variant of the French TAVITAC) and the electronic-warfare system comprises the Chinese RWD-8 intercept system and a NJ8I-3 jammer".Sensors include a SUR-17 air-surveillence radar, an SR-60 air/surface search radar and a Kelvin-Hughes 2007 navigation radar.

While accepting that the integration of Chinese and Western systems was challenging, Capt.Baig says the package works well in practice and that Zulfiqar has considerable potential for future upgrade; for example, there is a space to install a vertical launch system in place of the FM-90N launcher. he anticipates that a forthcoming modernisation will see the FM-90N and SUR-17 combination replaced by the Chinese HQ-16 (a variant of the Russian SA-N-12 Shril).

Capt.Baig is pleased with the seaworthiness of the 123.4 m-long hull which, he says is "shaped to minimize the resistence of water and improve seakeeping in rough sea conditions. Two rudders and two controlable pitch propellers allow excellent manoeuvarability. We can conduct our tasks up to Sea State 5. Our CODAD (combined diesel and diesel) propulsion system (two Tognum MTU 12V 1163 TB 83 diesel engines) gives us a top speed of 28+ kt and the onboard fuel capacity provides a steaming range in excess of 6,000 n miles at 18 kt".

Compared with older vessels, crew habitability standards have been improved and noise kept to a minimum while air-conditioning has been installed in accomodation and operating compartments. Capt. Baig says"the core crew is 188, but we have a capacity for 212 and for short periods even up to 250".

Further weapons and sensor trials are planned before the frigate undergoes a final sea inspection later in 2010 and - all being well - is declared fully operational."one may well see PNS Zulfiqar taking part in anti-piracy operations in 2011".

The second Sword-class frigate, PNS Shamsheer, was commissioned in Shanghai on 19 December 2009, arrived in Karachi on 23 January 2010 (after stops in Singapore and Colombo) and was admitted into the Pakistani fleet on 8 Feburary. Ship three, Saif, is scheduled to commission on 31 July. The keel of the final unit, Aslat, was laid down on 10 December 2009 at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works and scheduled to join the fleet in December 2013.

 

[Hassan Guy]

No mention of the Turkish corvettes at all? Maybe better to develop the Azmat/FAC(M) into a corvette(like the Baynunah or Sa'ar 5) which they can get 8-12 of instead.

 

[Gryphon]

May-2010
INTERVIEW

Captain Mirza Foad Amin Baig
Commanding Officer, PNS Zulfiqar

The first of Pakistan's four Sword-class frigates, PNS Zulfiqar, is preparing for a final sea inspection later in 2010 before being declared fully operational. Capt.Baig spoke to Guy Tormens when the ship visited Doha, Qatar.

Launched by China State Shipbuilding Corporation at its Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai on 19th April 2008, PNS Zulfiqar - the first of Pakistan Navy's (PN's) four Sword-class (F-22P) frigates - was commissioned on 30th July 2009.

Having completed the technical acceptance process followed by pier-side and at-sea training, the ship's company commenced a delivery voyage that took Zulfiqar to Manado for Indonesia's International Fleet Review (12-19 August), Port Kalang in Malaysia (27-30 August) and Colombo, Sri Lanka (5-7 Sept). The frigate arrived in Karachi on 13 September and was inducted into the PN fleet on 19 September.

"the remainder 0f 2009 and early 2010 was taken up by testing our sensors and weapons in home waters" says Capt. Mirza Foad Amin Baig, the Commanding Officer."in early March we sailed from Karachi for a deployment to the Arabian Gulf, before taking part in DIMDEX 2010 (The 2nd Doha International Maritime Defence Exhibition in Qatar, we successfully fired C-802 missiles in the Northern Arabian sea on 12 March, and on our way to Doha we conducted passex serials with both the Saudi navy and the Qatari naval forces.

Despite its strong visual resemblances to the Chinese navy's Jiangwei II-class (Type 053H3) frigates, Capt. Baig says the 3,144-ton Zulfiqar and its sister ships were designed to specific Pakistani requirements and incorporate many features hiitherto unknown in PN vessels. " most obvious are the radar cross-section reduction measures, clearly visible in the hull, main gun and the slightly angling superstructure". he notes." A lot of effort was also put into infrared signature, noise and electro-magnetic emission reduction. She is also the first major surface combatant of the PN to have a high level of automation on board".

A integrated platform management system controls the engines, hull services, electrical distribution and damage-control systems,"Zulfiqar has been fitted with a sophisticated German MTU damage-control system. Automatic detectors and sensor systems ensure an early warning for any damage occuring in any operational situation" says Capt.Baig. "Buoyancy is assured with two adjacent compartments flooded and a sprinkler system is fitted throughout the ship. these enhanced damage-control capabilities and the in-built redundency are important factors for unsupported long-distance crossings".Designed primarily for anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and ant-surface warfare (ASuW), Zulfiqar also has a local area self-defense capability."I dare say that a Sword-class unit packs almost the combined fire-power of our six Tariq-class (Ex-UK RN Amazon-class (Type-21)) frigates. We feature quite a few capabilities not found on the pther Pakistani frigates".

The ASuW suite consists of two quadruple C-802 launchers (CSS-N-8'Saccade') and a 76mm gun based on the Russian AK-176M weapon. ASW assets comprise two triple ET-52C 324mm torpedo tubes, two sextuple RDC-32 rocket launchers and an Echo Type 5 hull-mounted active search and track sonar. An octuple launcher for FM-90N anti-air missiles is located forward of the bridge and two Type 730 30mm seven-barrel guns are provided for close-in defence (CIWS).

"The embarked Harbin Z-9EC helicopter provides us with over-the-horizon targeting for the C-802 missiles as well as a long-range detection capability and anti-submarine capability",Capt.Baig states."Our combat management suite is based on the chinese ZKJ-3C (a variant of the French TAVITAC) and the electronic-warfare system comprises the Chinese RWD-8 intercept system and a NJ8I-3 jammer".Sensors include a SUR-17 air-surveillence radar, an SR-60 air/surface search radar and a Kelvin-Hughes 2007 navigation radar.

While accepting that the integration of Chinese and Western systems was challenging, Capt.Baig says the package works well in practice and that Zulfiqar has considerable potential for future upgrade; for example, there is a space to install a vertical launch system in place of the FM-90N launcher. he anticipates that a forthcoming modernisation will see the FM-90N and SUR-17 combination replaced by the Chinese HQ-16 (a variant of the Russian SA-N-12 Shril).

Capt.Baig is pleased with the seaworthiness of the 123.4 m-long hull which, he says is "shaped to minimize the resistence of water and improve seakeeping in rough sea conditions. Two rudders and two controlable pitch propellers allow excellent manoeuvarability. We can conduct our tasks up to Sea State 5. Our CODAD (combined diesel and diesel) propulsion system (two Tognum MTU 12V 1163 TB 83 diesel engines) gives us a top speed of 28+ kt and the onboard fuel capacity provides a steaming range in excess of 6,000 n miles at 18 kt".

Compared with older vessels, crew habitability standards have been improved and noise kept to a minimum while air-conditioning has been installed in accomodation and operating compartments. Capt. Baig says"the core crew is 188, but we have a capacity for 212 and for short periods even up to 250".

Further weapons and sensor trials are planned before the frigate undergoes a final sea inspection later in 2010 and - all being well - is declared fully operational."one may well see PNS Zulfiqar taking part in anti-piracy operations in 2011".

The second Sword-class frigate, PNS Shamsheer, was commissioned in Shanghai on 19 December 2009, arrived in Karachi on 23 January 2010 (after stops in Singapore and Colombo) and was admitted into the Pakistani fleet on 8 Feburary. Ship three, Saif, is scheduled to commission on 31 July. The keel of the final unit, Aslat, was laid down on 10 December 2009 at Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works and scheduled to join the fleet in December 2013.

Installing a VLS on F-22P requires significant changes to the basic ship structure which will be very costly.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Installing a VLS on F-22P requires significant changes to the basic ship structure which will be very costly.

Better to install VLS on the FAC(M).

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Any details on Harba and Zarb?

what is the Harba missile can you please explain

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Installing a VLS on F-22P requires significant changes to the basic ship structure which will be very costly.

@Penguin

 

[YeBeWarned]

Installing a VLS on F-22P requires significant changes to the basic ship structure which will be very costly.

Why would PN even modify the existing design of f-22 ,when there are many other options available from same source China with VLS .. From 2500+ ton to 4000 ton ffg shown in opening post .