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[Adnan81]

For our benefit, please quote the section of the constitution you keep referring to. Thanks!

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Amendment of section 99A, Act V of 1898. In the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1898 (Act V of 1898), hereinafter referred to as the said Code, in section 99A, in sub-section (I):

(a)

after the words and comma “of that class”, the words, figures, brackets, letter and commas “or any matter of the nature referred to in clause (ii) of sub-section (1) of section 24 of the West Pakistan Press and Publications Ordinance, 1963,” shall be inserted; and

(b)

after the figure and letter “295A”, the words, figures and letters “or section 298A or section 298B or section 298C” shall be inserted.

5.

Amendment of Schedule II. Act V of 1898. In the said Code, in Schedule II, after the entries relating to section 298A, the following entries shall be inserted, namely:

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

298B

Misuse of epithets, descriptions and titles, etc, reserved for certain holy personages or places

Ditto

Ditto

Not bailable

Ditto

Imprisonment of either description for three years, and fine.

Ditto

298C

Person of Quadiani group, etc. calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith.

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

[http://www]
PART IV AMENDMENT OF THE WEST PAKISTAN PRESS AND PUBLICATIONS ORDINANCE 1963 (W.P. ORDINANCE NO. XXX OF 1963)
[http://www]

6.

Amendment of section 24, West Pakistan Ordinance No. XXX of 1963.
In the West Pakistan Press and Publications Ordinance, 1963 (W.P. Ordinance No. XXX of 1963), in section 24, in sub-section (1) after clause (i), the following new clause shall be inserted, namely;


“(ii)

are of the nature referred to in section 298A, section 298B. or section 298C of the Pakistan Penal Code (Act XLV of 1860), or”,

General, M. Zia-Ul-Haq,
President

 

[PAKjunoon]

The problem with the Ahmadiyya apartheid in Pakistan is that we must declare (a written declaration in almost all basic legal docs like id, passport etc) the founder of our Community to be an imposter if we want to declare ourselves Muslims. Otherwise state declares us Qadianis Non Muslims.

What Apartheid you are facing in Pakistan?


Just being declare minority is not Apartheid. You have all the same oppurtuinities as the rest of Pakistanis have.Except you can't the President and Prime Minister of Pakistan.



The legal documents ask you to declare that you believe in Finality of Prophethood of Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) and that you are not a follower of Ahmedi or Lahori group.Just this.

Now the question is who is state or parliament (bunch of the most corrupt, drunk, criminals) to decide who is Muslim or who is not. Then it does not stop here if an Ahmadi Muslim is found praying or calling his Mosque a Mosque or looking like a Muslim that is a criminal offence according to the apartheid laws passed against us.
Dont believe me just google it.

The Constitution defined a "Muslim".If Ahmedis don't fit the definition of Muslims then that is not the state problem.

As officially ahmedis are not muslims, they they can't call their place of worship as Mosques.Same as Hindu's and Sikh's can't call their Mandirs and Gurduwaras as Mosques.You won't see them complaining.

And no it is not an criminal offence to look like a Muslim.

Google the literal and practical meaning of Apartheid,before using the term.You will then get to know what Apartheid is.

Now imagine these same supremacists who condone such tyrannical laws when told that full face Hijab is banned in certain European country or Israel has committed so and so atrocity against innocent Palestinians or Rohingian Muslims are persecuted.
Suddenly their double standards will jump in and they will reject those vile acts in most filthy language.

You are seriously comparing the conditions of Ahmedis with Plaestinians and Rohingian muslims?

• Tell me how many are killed daily by Armed forces?
• how many Ahmedis houses are daily bulldozed?
• How many live in the world largest prison camp?how many are daily controlled and humiliated by checkpoints?
• How many are declared as terrorist and murdered by Tanks,Jets,Artillelry,etc?
• How many Ahmedis children are in Pakistan Jails just for being Ahmedis?

Just give up this Victim Mentality!

1) Ahmadis are portraying like Muslims that we cant tolerate it hurts our feelings. Shouldnt they be happy that heretics also love and follow their religion not only in Pakistan but all around the world.

No we don't want non-muslims to potray themselves as muslim. They should follow their own religion.

2) Ahamdis do this to confuse innocent Muslims. Why innocent are so gullible that we can confuse them. Why ban us if we are heretics did Holy Prophet s.a.w ban his opponents or openly challenged them to bring their arguments and let the truth flourish. In fact who was banning who just read the history it was the Minority of Muslims which were sent to Sheb Abi Taalib cuz they were "confusing" youths. Not the other way around.

The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) ordered the mosque which hypocrites build to destroy it.

Finally going by their arguments Muslims are minorities in many countries should they pass same laws passed by Pakistan. So their gullible citizen are not confused by Muslims. Or Muslims should not portray like local non Muslims it hurt the sentiments of local population. If Muslims are found doing so they are criminals???
No??

If other countries pass a law that define a "christian" and don't let the Muslims call their place of worship "Church", Then no will mind or object to it.

Meanwhile right now in another thread our Chinese friends are being grilled by these supremacists that Uighur Muslims have no freedom to practice Islam. My question is how can they question someone while in their own land minorities are persecuted by state and establishment itself. What moral high ground they have???

Tell me how are you persecuted in Pakistan by the State and Establishment?

 

[Verve]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...id-attack-threats-sent-to-muslims-in-bradford

The literature shows an image of a sword and the St George’s flag with the words: “Kill scum Muslims”. It questions why Muslim women wear burqas then states: “We are now going to do acid attacks on anyone who wears the funny black masks around your square & Bradford & other places.”

Protect the minorities in your country first @Wolfhunter .... and protest in France too where freedom of religion is being attacked by seculars like you. Then worry about what's happening in Pakistan.

 

[Wolfhunter]

.

Amendment of section 99A, Act V of 1898. In the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1898 (Act V of 1898), hereinafter referred to as the said Code, in section 99A, in sub-section (I):

(a)

after the words and comma “of that class”, the words, figures, brackets, letter and commas “or any matter of the nature referred to in clause (ii) of sub-section (1) of section 24 of the West Pakistan Press and Publications Ordinance, 1963,” shall be inserted; and

(b)

after the figure and letter “295A”, the words, figures and letters “or section 298A or section 298B or section 298C” shall be inserted.

5.

Amendment of Schedule II. Act V of 1898. In the said Code, in Schedule II, after the entries relating to section 298A, the following entries shall be inserted, namely:

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

298B

Misuse of epithets, descriptions and titles, etc, reserved for certain holy personages or places

Ditto

Ditto

Not bailable

Ditto

Imprisonment of either description for three years, and fine.

Ditto

298C

Person of Quadiani group, etc. calling himself a Muslim or preaching or propagating his faith.

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

Ditto

[http://www]
PART IV AMENDMENT OF THE WEST PAKISTAN PRESS AND PUBLICATIONS ORDINANCE 1963 (W.P. ORDINANCE NO. XXX OF 1963)
[http://www]

6.

Amendment of section 24, West Pakistan Ordinance No. XXX of 1963.
In the West Pakistan Press and Publications Ordinance, 1963 (W.P. Ordinance No. XXX of 1963), in section 24, in sub-section (1) after clause (i), the following new clause shall be inserted, namely;


“(ii)

are of the nature referred to in section 298A, section 298B. or section 298C of the Pakistan Penal Code (Act XLV of 1860), or”,

General, M. Zia-Ul-Haq,
President

Thank you very much!

You just did not do that...
Compare that with non Ahmadies deaths by terrorists.
You are guys are really the ...........................................................................................................................................................................

Please don't derail the discussion with your senile ramblings, you clearly have no credible argument to present.

Protect the minorities in your country first @Wolfhunter

But we do protect our minorities, the fact that you are allowed to post anti British vitriol here is proof how liberal and tolerant the mass majority of the U.K is!

 

[Verve]

Are muslims in senior posts in the U.K government = YES

They can't go to the top position of being Minister of Defence or PM.

Would the whites majority in UK choose a practicing muslim to be PM?

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Thank you very much!



Please don't derail the discussion with your senile ramblings, you clearly have no credible argument to present.

Shithead u just picked a terrorist attack and put it up as systematized discrimination and persecution against minorities, when the same terrorists have ripped thousands apart, majority or minority.
Yes i dont have anything to say to likes of you.

 

[Verve]

But we do protect our minorities, the fact that you are allowed to post anti British vitriol here is proof how liberal and tolerant the mass majority of the U.K is!

UK white atheists are turning fascists. Racism is inbred anyways. Pakistan's religion profiling is nothing compared to the racism in UK.

 

[Wolfhunter]

They can't go to the top position of being Minister of Defence or PM.

Would the whites majority in UK choose a practicing muslim to be PM?

1. The people of the U.K chose a Muslim for the most senior position in the Capital of the country!
2. Baroness Warsi was the Senior Minister for State and Foreign Affiars
3. 19 members of the house of lords are Muslim
4. 22 members of the house of commons are Muslim

Your arguments are invalid because your logic is flawed and you are blinded by hate!

 

[Norwegian]

Then how can he run the affairs of the state when constitution declares that the affairs shall be run according to Quran and Sunnah?

Founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah gave a Qadiani seat for Pakistans first foreign minister. Many Hindus and Christians were part of his first cabinet. Did he not know about this bullshit constitutional rule?

 

[Wolfhunter]

UK white atheists are turning fascists. Racism is inbred anyways. Pakistan's religion profiling is nothing compared to the racism in UK.

So now you are taking a thread about Pakistan and turning it into one about the U.K, why are you all so insecure? Can you not discuss the issue at hand with facts, figures and sensibilities? Or must you resort to child like tantrums, throwing your toys out of the pram?

 

[Norwegian]

Democracy in Pakistan should be of the Western version, that's what some idiots here are preaching .... but what happened to the majority making the laws, is that not part of democracy?

Lol! Democracy doesn't mean tyranny of the majority.

 

[Verve]

Founder of Pakistan Muhammad Ali Jinnah gave a Qadiani seat for Pakistans first foreign minister. Many Hindus and Christians were part of his first cabinet. Did he not know about this bullshit constitutional rule?

Did he make him a PM?

Hindu SC judge so no issues with foreign minister being Ahmadi. President and PM and COAS etc, no!

 

[Wolfhunter]

Shithead u just picked a terrorist attack and put it up as systematized discrimination and persecution against minorities, when the same terrorists have ripped thousands apart, majority or minority.
Yes i dont have anything to say to likes of you.

1. Reported for swearing, clearly you have yet to learn how to hold a civilised discussion
2. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ear-becoming-election-scapegoat-idUSKBN1DG04H
3. http://www.dw.com/en/the-persecution-of-ahmadis-in-pakistan-and-beyond/a-36748924
4. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/o...hmadis-constant-pakistan-161218113353263.html
5. https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-of-the-ahmadis-must-not-be-allowed-to-spread
6. https://nation.com.pk/24-Dec-2016/p...n-pakistan-contradicts-the-teachings-of-islam

You are just another ignorant factor...

 

[Verve]

So now you are taking a thread about Pakistan and turning it into one about the U.K, why are you all so insecure? Can you not discuss the issue at hand with facts, figures and sensibilities? Or must you resort to child like tantrums, throwing your toys out of the pram?

I'm exposing your hypocrisy ... but you are probably too thick skinned to realise that!

Lol! Democracy doesn't mean tyranny of the majority.

There's no tyranny. A religious minority can't fake themselves as another. Simple as that.

 

[Wolfhunter]

I'm exposing your hypocrisy

The sweet irony of that word coming from someone who himself is a minority sitting in multicultural and tolerant Britain, advocating persecution and disenfranchisement of minorities in Pakistan!