Osama Dead. Obama Confirms.

[VCheng]

Hi,

If it really happened that the americans flew in----can you recall for how long I have been saying that the americans can fly in and go as it would please them----in their own time at their discretion---at their pleasure----and they have the capability and capacity to take out whatever they want to whenever they wanted------and all you MODERATORS---AND THINK TANKERS---SENIOR MEMBERS jumped on me and started telling me as if you knew more than me----and made me an outcast here.

i want to tell you today my sons and daughters----and i am not being arrogant----you people have no clue to the electronics capabilities of the americans----if you knew what I know----you would be shi---ting in your pants----but the problem is that when you talk to someone---until and unless you are on the same plane----you cannot comprehend the other person----.

There are people on this board who wanted to challenge the usaf----to show them we are not the iraqis----these little toys that we have---the u s won't even have to blink an eye----wake up my little ones----and understand your position in the bigger game plan-----act accordingly and you will prosper.

What if I told you that the us air force may have the capability to re-direct an amraam 120 launched from a paf aircraft back towards the pak aircraft by the us awacs and electronics warfare aircraft---or what if they can do it with the sd 10 as well-----yes change the lock of the missile in mid flight.

The transition of the current process of the u s jammers is such that you don't even know that you are being jammed----there are no fuzzies on the screen---there is no noise coming from the telecomm equipment----the fake info being fed into the system is silky smooth-----.

I bet you---if you had believed all this 9 years ago---and if the pak millitary had believed it 9 years ago---they would have taken out the AQ and taliban in the first 6 months.

Now---my dear beloved countrymen---it is time to pray---pray hard-----and you SENIOR THINK TANKERS AND SENIOR MODS----ENJOY THE FAILURE OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BRAGGED ABOUT ON THIS BOARD------.

Why do we love the country of our birth so much---that even after all the insults that we get from our countrymen we still want to come back and try to say and make our young men understand---to please, see the day light----.

Why do I keep coming back to this site---after all the insults and snubs---fo you my young people,so that you have somebody to tell you---stop listening to lies about your prowess.

Why does a father keep telling his children to learn and understand the world as it really is---even after the children snub him and insult him---because a father doesnot want his children to fail and get hurt---. I am not anyone of you's father----but a lots of you could use the guidance and knowledge---.

MastanKhan: Thank you for saying what is in my heart too. Thank you.

 

[@nline]

Hi,

If it really happened that the americans flew in----can you recall for how long I have been saying that the americans can fly in and go as it would please them----in their own time at their discretion---at their pleasure----and they have the capability and capacity to take out whatever they want to whenever they wanted------and all you MODERATORS---AND THINK TANKERS---SENIOR MEMBERS jumped on me and started telling me as if you knew more than me----and made me an outcast here.

i want to tell you today my sons and daughters----and i am not being arrogant----you people have no clue to the electronics capabilities of the americans----if you knew what I know----you would be shi---ting in your pants----but the problem is that when you talk to someone---until and unless you are on the same plane----you cannot comprehend the other person----.

There are people on this board who wanted to challenge the usaf----to show them we are not the iraqis----these little toys that we have---the u s won't even have to blink an eye----wake up my little ones----and understand your position in the bigger game plan-----act accordingly and you will prosper.

What if I told you that the us air force may have the capability to re-direct an amraam 120 launched from a paf aircraft back towards the pak aircraft by the us awacs and electronics warfare aircraft---or what if they can do it with the sd 10 as well-----yes change the lock of the missile in mid flight.

The transition of the current process of the u s jammers is such that you don't even know that you are being jammed----there are no fuzzies on the screen---there is no noise coming from the telecomm equipment----the fake info being fed into the system is silky smooth-----.

I bet you---if you had believed all this 9 years ago---and if the pak millitary had believed it 9 years ago---they would have taken out the AQ and taliban in the first 6 months.

Now---my dear beloved countrymen---it is time to pray---pray hard-----and you SENIOR THINK TANKERS AND SENIOR MODS----ENJOY THE FAILURE OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BRAGGED ABOUT ON THIS BOARD------.

Why do we love the country of our birth so much---that even after all the insults that we get from our countrymen we still want to come back and try to say and make our young men understand---to please, see the day light----.

Why do I keep coming back to this site---after all the insults and snubs---fo you my young people,so that you have somebody to tell you---stop listening to lies about your prowess.

Why does a father keep telling his children to learn and understand the world as it really is---even after the children snub him and insult him---because a father doesnot want his children to fail and get hurt---. I am not anyone of you's father----but a lots of you could use the guidance and knowledge---.

Excellent!!!

 

[mechanical]

btw the hoax reminds me of iraqi chemical weapons hoax, im now 110% certain that us has been making hoax all the time, sorry osama death story will be very hard to make sense for long time, after 9/11 yet another american case of not providing proofs

 

[T-Faz]

The way I see it the only viable strategy for ISI is to claim ignorance and incomptence, figuring it is better to be seen as fools rather than dead. What I fear is that the end result will just be dead fools.

Just don't hold your breath waiting for an ISI response that will not be an insult to intelligence.

You know what I would have done in this situation if I were in charge of PA, as soon as I realized that the Americans got Osama, I would have captured all the other terrorists too like Haqqani, Mullah Omar and company.

This could have been used to save Pakistan and show that we were part of the major plan.

Alternatively, the PA should have killed or captured Saudi terrorist Osama and they would have been hailed as global heros.

But you know our incompetent religiously challenged fools.

What can be done now is that the men involved are captured and handed over to US for prosecution while a secular party comes into power based on the pretense of changing this countries forced extremist religious identity.

 

[Jigs]

The Hindu : Front Page : Pakistan laments ‘unilateral' U.S. action

Offical statement by Pakistani FO:
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Official statement: Pak denies prior knowledge on Osama

It's clear now that Pakistan had no info. of the operation whatrsoever.

It is understandable of why the U.S. would keep the operation a secret. Since knowing Osama was hiding out there they would have considered that elements within the army and intelligence service was compromised.

 

[@nline]

It is understandable of why the U.S. would keep the operation a secret. Since knowing Osama was hiding out there they would have considered that elements within the army and intelligence service was compromised.

Well,
After all this is what comes from indian media.

 

[VCheng]

You know what I would have done in this situation if I were in charge of PA, as soon as I realized that the Americans got Osama, I would have captured all the other terrorists too like Haqqani, Mullah Omar and company.

This could have been used to save Pakistan and show that we were part of the major plan.

Alternatively, the PA should have killed or captured Saudi terrorist Osama and they would have been hailed as global heros.

But you know our incompetent religiously challenged fools.

What can be done now is that the men involved are captured and handed over to US for prosecution while a secular party comes into power based on the pretense of changing this countries forced extremist religious identity.

Seems clear to me to but please remember that "There are none as blind as those who do not wish to see".

 

[The HBS Guy]

It is understandable of why the U.S. would keep the operation a secret. Since knowing Osama was hiding out there they would have considered that elements within the army and intelligence service was compromised.

Wikileaks from US embassy in Dushanbe claims that the ISI used to tip-off OBL whenever the US closed in on him.

 

[Green Bullet]

and all you MODERATORS---AND THINK TANKERS---SENIOR MEMBERS jumped on me and started telling me as if you knew more than me----and made me an outcast here.

Wow your whole sentence screams of egotism, you don't know the full ground realities neither does no one in this Forum and you are making senseless statement's.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

There is very little to support that ISI favored Osama and a lot of creditable evidence to say that ISI did not support Osama.
While Taliban may enjoy soft corner in ISI heart, AQ network had never garnered positive sympathy from ISI.. its presence irked ISI from the day of Osama appearance in Kabul and ISI always considered him an ideological road block in their indoctrination as well control of Talibans. It was eventually Osama influence which let Taliban spin totally out of control enough to call war against Pakistan. Technically speaking, Osama and ISI are two repellents because both of them have different goals.

ISI dealing at large remained with Taliban while Osama pumped million into terrorist activities deep inside Pakistan.
Hence, it is safe to assume that he was Pakistan's enemy as much as Americas.

ISI may have detained Osama in a safe house for integrations and to extract valuable information in the disguise of providing safety cover but in the end the fact that Americans got him in the most secure corner of country deserves an applaud for ISI "ingenuity"

Make scene

 

[T-Faz]

Wow your whole sentence screams of egotism, you don't know the full ground realities neither does no one in this Forum and you are making senseless statement's.

Some have been able to develop a complete picture of what happened.

The only thing that requires some more insight is the role or lack thereof of our security establishment.

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Seems clear to me to but please remember that "There are none as blind as those who do not wish to see".

That is the case for the majority of Pakistani's.

That is what has led us to this pathetic state today.

 

[mechanical]

Wikileaks from US embassy in Dushanbe claims that the ISI used to tip-off OBL whenever the US closed in on him.

i think you should show all of us the dead osama if u are certain osama was killed in tht operation, can you??

 

[DesiGuy]

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[Karachiite]

while a secular party comes into power based on the pretense of changing this countries forced extremist religious identity.

I don't think this will ever happen. Well atleast in my lifetime and I'm only in my early 20s. But it would be a dream come true if a true secular party is ruling Pakistan.

 

[Desertfalcon]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but the major news media here is reporting that the Government of Pakistan has officially criticized the American raid that killed Osama bin Laden as an "unauthorized unilateral action,".

Pakistan criticizes U.S. on "unauthorized" raid - CBS News

I can only speak for myself. America has nothing against Pakistan. We have had a long, friendly relationship. We wish that Pakistan continues it's progress in building democracy and prosperity for it's people. It is very much in America and the world's interest that that happens. We don't like having to conduct such operations, but Mr. Osama bin Laden murdered 3,000 of my fellow countrymen in cold blood. We told him then that either we would bring him to justice...or we would surely bring justice to him. Justice. Was. Done. America will never let it's citizens be murdered with impunity. We will never let our security be threatened. We work with Pakistan every day to help protect our security and Pakistan's.

I spent 20 years in the American armed forces and in that time I learned that war is never really productive in solving problems. Most of the time you simply exchange one set of problems for another when you go to war. Having said that, it is a moral obligation of my county's government to defend it's people and bring justice to those who have harmed us.

That's just my take on it, for what it's worth.