AAtish
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Though you have chosen not to use my handle in the referred line, I assume it is from one of my post, so I feel it necessary to respond point to point..
If you havent noticed, or you just simply deny to accept the reality, Pakistan IS in court of law right now, it has been blamed for harbouring a world renowned terrorist, and if you dont know this, Pakistan IS being tried every where.
Every news channel, every news paper, every FO of every country is a court room for Pakistan and its alleged involvement in providing safe heaven to OBL.
So yes, Pakistan IS in court and WE are the advocates of this nation, It really pains me that our next generation (though educated) is gullible enough to not understand anything.
If you go back to original thread of Osama Dead, I have mentioned many things, which people like you just ignored or dont want to acknowledge (personal reasons? Mental slavery? Western Ideology? Materialistic hunger? Half breed? Pick your choice).
Forums are a good place for people like you to rant as much as you want, but in real world (in Pakistan) you are not more than a few hundred thousand..
Let me analyse your post point by point:
This bold sentence shows that either you are not a Pakistani or if you are, then how Patriotic you are You are stereotyping whole nation of 180 million..
Do you even know the meaning of Jihad?? For once, come out of US and UK Media cr@p and read what this jihad word means in reality Dont give me the BS about how those extremist use it.. they are, but only few thousand out of 1.5 Billion!
Can you Remove the Anti-Nazi school of thought?? Can you remove hatred against what IRA did in pre-9/11 times? If not, then accept that hate is a human emotion.. the other portion of your sentence.. no sane person gives garlands to murderers.. but would you define murdrer??
Laws depend upon the requirement and acceptance of people of a country.. and 179.9 million want it to stay.. So you can't do anything about it..
That I agree to, would you please be kind enough to tell me why these attacks are happening in Pakistan?? If I remember, pre WoT, there was NO ATTACK Ever on Christians.. Out of all minorities, there was one time when Hindu temples were destroyed in retaliation of Babri Mosque, but later they were built again by the SAME people and they even apologised about it, was Babri mosque reconstructed?.. Other then that, everyone use to live happily!!
I am assuming that this portion was added to give credibility and weight to other arguments.. These are basic necessities and should be done in EVERY COUNTRY!
They are being accused of involvement with labelled terrorists by countries which have interest in destroying Pakistan.. and remind me.. who created OBL? Who trained him? Who funded him?
So you mean to say that if a CIA agent becomes rouge, he should be labelled terrorist?? and whichever country he hides in becomes friend of terrorist?? give me a break..
Besides, the involvement of ISI or PA in helping OBL and OBLs death in the mansion in Abbottabad is yet to be confirmed.. its still word of mouth..
Please define what you think Islamic Ideology is
I am giving you benefit of doubt here.. Ill correct this for you.. not Islamist Terrorists but ALL terrorists
My friend.. you are so far away from truth that it hurts.. let me give you a suggestion.. implying that you are knowledgeable about something, without studying it will always make you look stupid.. Please study Islam to understand Islamic Ideology
Do you know my friend that ALL of todays scientific development is based on research done by Islamic scientists?? though, as usual you wont accept it because it is against what you so ignorantly believe.. so Ill refer to someone you MIGHT know:
Marquis of Dufferin and Ava said:
'It is to Mussulman science, to Mussulman art, and to Mussulman literature that Europe has been in a great measure indebted for its extrication from the darkness of the Middle Ages.' Link
If you want, I can dig in my books and bring out references of what Muslims and Islamic Ideology gave human kind (other than a comprehensive religion)..
Heres another one.. Do you know that these days Banks all over the world are seeking help from Islamic banking laws to give stability to their materialistic banking system?? Which is ripping in pieces??
And do you know that BIG Bang which you just heard from scientists, has been mentioned in Quran 1400+ years ago??
No my friend.. you dont.. because your total religious and general knowledge is based on what you see on CNN and BBC. You have never bothered to read your own history.. If you are a Muslim that is..
Its not that tough but, I wont go into discussion about this, I will ask you to sink yourself in assessing how many materialistically sound people are indulging themselves in the search of spirituality they are jumping from religion to religion, sect to sect, group to group.. ending up accepting Islam.. why??.. because it gives moderate style of life.. equilibrium!..
Can you show me ANY reference from Quran or ANY of Sahah-e-Sittah without taking it out of context, which justifies hurting one's own self, let alone blowing yourself or others?? If you cant then dont label it as Islamic Ideology..
I agree that materialistic approach will help, but on the cost of becoming slaves? I doubt that Pakistanis would allow that.. In the next portion of your post, you are telling us nothing new.. education and employment is required.. and it is going down and touching dangerous levels in ALL the developed countries also, even UK is at its record low.. so its not ONLY Pakistans problem..
The bold part.. You do know the meaning of that right??
Peace (thats Islam)
If you havent noticed, or you just simply deny to accept the reality, Pakistan IS in court of law right now, it has been blamed for harbouring a world renowned terrorist, and if you dont know this, Pakistan IS being tried every where.
Every news channel, every news paper, every FO of every country is a court room for Pakistan and its alleged involvement in providing safe heaven to OBL.
So yes, Pakistan IS in court and WE are the advocates of this nation, It really pains me that our next generation (though educated) is gullible enough to not understand anything.
If you go back to original thread of Osama Dead, I have mentioned many things, which people like you just ignored or dont want to acknowledge (personal reasons? Mental slavery? Western Ideology? Materialistic hunger? Half breed? Pick your choice).
Forums are a good place for people like you to rant as much as you want, but in real world (in Pakistan) you are not more than a few hundred thousand..
Let me analyse your post point by point:
This bold sentence shows that either you are not a Pakistani or if you are, then how Patriotic you are You are stereotyping whole nation of 180 million..
Do you even know the meaning of Jihad?? For once, come out of US and UK Media cr@p and read what this jihad word means in reality Dont give me the BS about how those extremist use it.. they are, but only few thousand out of 1.5 Billion!
Can you Remove the Anti-Nazi school of thought?? Can you remove hatred against what IRA did in pre-9/11 times? If not, then accept that hate is a human emotion.. the other portion of your sentence.. no sane person gives garlands to murderers.. but would you define murdrer??
Laws depend upon the requirement and acceptance of people of a country.. and 179.9 million want it to stay.. So you can't do anything about it..
That I agree to, would you please be kind enough to tell me why these attacks are happening in Pakistan?? If I remember, pre WoT, there was NO ATTACK Ever on Christians.. Out of all minorities, there was one time when Hindu temples were destroyed in retaliation of Babri Mosque, but later they were built again by the SAME people and they even apologised about it, was Babri mosque reconstructed?.. Other then that, everyone use to live happily!!
I am assuming that this portion was added to give credibility and weight to other arguments.. These are basic necessities and should be done in EVERY COUNTRY!
They are being accused of involvement with labelled terrorists by countries which have interest in destroying Pakistan.. and remind me.. who created OBL? Who trained him? Who funded him?
So you mean to say that if a CIA agent becomes rouge, he should be labelled terrorist?? and whichever country he hides in becomes friend of terrorist?? give me a break..
Besides, the involvement of ISI or PA in helping OBL and OBLs death in the mansion in Abbottabad is yet to be confirmed.. its still word of mouth..
Please define what you think Islamic Ideology is
I am giving you benefit of doubt here.. Ill correct this for you.. not Islamist Terrorists but ALL terrorists
My friend.. you are so far away from truth that it hurts.. let me give you a suggestion.. implying that you are knowledgeable about something, without studying it will always make you look stupid.. Please study Islam to understand Islamic Ideology
Do you know my friend that ALL of todays scientific development is based on research done by Islamic scientists?? though, as usual you wont accept it because it is against what you so ignorantly believe.. so Ill refer to someone you MIGHT know:Marquis of Dufferin and Ava said:
'It is to Mussulman science, to Mussulman art, and to Mussulman literature that Europe has been in a great measure indebted for its extrication from the darkness of the Middle Ages.' Link
If you want, I can dig in my books and bring out references of what Muslims and Islamic Ideology gave human kind (other than a comprehensive religion)..
Heres another one.. Do you know that these days Banks all over the world are seeking help from Islamic banking laws to give stability to their materialistic banking system?? Which is ripping in pieces??
And do you know that BIG Bang which you just heard from scientists, has been mentioned in Quran 1400+ years ago??
No my friend.. you dont.. because your total religious and general knowledge is based on what you see on CNN and BBC. You have never bothered to read your own history.. If you are a Muslim that is..
Its not that tough but, I wont go into discussion about this, I will ask you to sink yourself in assessing how many materialistically sound people are indulging themselves in the search of spirituality they are jumping from religion to religion, sect to sect, group to group.. ending up accepting Islam.. why??.. because it gives moderate style of life.. equilibrium!..
Can you show me ANY reference from Quran or ANY of Sahah-e-Sittah without taking it out of context, which justifies hurting one's own self, let alone blowing yourself or others?? If you cant then dont label it as Islamic Ideology..
I agree that materialistic approach will help, but on the cost of becoming slaves? I doubt that Pakistanis would allow that.. In the next portion of your post, you are telling us nothing new.. education and employment is required.. and it is going down and touching dangerous levels in ALL the developed countries also, even UK is at its record low.. so its not ONLY Pakistans problem..
The bold part.. You do know the meaning of that right??
Peace (thats Islam)
), not even stopping on any channel for more than 5 secs.. The rest of 4 videos where the face is clear.. DOES NOT SHOW the "mansion" walls.. 
