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Option's for PAF ?

Just look HAL's record with Mig 21, perhaps one-month-two-crashes?



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Since Indians like to brag, how about this:

India would like to order 800 Rafale and 600 F-35 , develivered asap!

of course, pricing must still be worked out later... sounds familiar? :rofl:
Man mig - 21 were already phased out.
LOL we are not going for f-35. First do some reseach before posting.
I can understand u r frustation ( Indians occupying jobs in west )
Calm down mate Drink coca-cola.
 
Did all those crashes happen due to bad maintenance? have proof ?

proof? take an admirable look at HAL - it's the best proof! :lol:

else how come you Indians have managed to crash every single brand of plane you could lay your hands on at the world's record pace like there's no tomorrow? :rofl:
 
proof? take an admirable look at HAL - it's the best proof! :rofl:

else how come you Indians have managed to crash every single brand of plane it could lay its hands on at the world's record pace like there's no tomorrow? :rofl:

No proof & troll posts...now gtho
 
proof? take an admirable look at HAL - it's the best proof! :lol:

else how come you Indians have managed to crash every single brand of plane you could lay your hands on at the world's record pace like there's no tomorrow? :rofl:
I expected this this kind of reply . Read post no . #625. third sentence
 
F-16s MLU and BLK52 can match any plane in Indian inventory including Rafale.

But Rafale and Super MKI will come with AESA.

How Block 52 can counter them?

India rejected f 16 IN super viper in favor of Rafael & he is believing block 52 can match Rafale TT nowadays :disagree:

Many TTs dont have enough knowledge of airrafts, naval ptaforms and Land based weapon systems etc.

Then in some cases they are biased.

When it comes to tech toys, Oscar , Penguin and Manticore are the one whose opinion can be taken seriously.
 
And you agreed in there.Chinese are still far behind than EU.
Only superiority that Chinese have is the flooding of others market with Junk Goods.EU is playing with most advanced technology for domestic consumption and also for exports. .Look at their AirBus ,EF or Rafale.China is still decades away from them.

I did not said in way which you are representing it, and China will take on EU sooner or later as they are also investing in R&D heavily too. Send you super EF, Rafale against J-11B & higher ones then you will know where EU and China stands. China only lag in engine tech now as US have accepted that China know all about F-35 so how they can be behind EU in that field while they have working prototype of 5th gen jet it means that they are on par with EU in most tech, they are US competitors and EU is far below then US in terms of tech.


This will not be final design as China have presented J-31 version 2.0 in last year in their air show, I have posted those pics in a thread too.

Fertile imagination! Get real buddy. You can ask for the Moon, but where are the funds? For example, 36 Typhoons will cost you a whopping $120 million a pop! That means over $4 billion or Rs 40,000 crores PKR or Rs 400 billion!!

You may get the far cheaper J-10s but that would still cost you around Rs 200 billion!

Who need typhoon when JF-17 block-3 (high end version around 30 to 40 mil a piece) can give PAF parity (at least in air defense) till 5th gen arrive.
 
As a Pakistani i'd say Pakistan should invest in the coming generations of jf-17 project as it would also provide self sufficiency in the specific field. If a certain country relies on another in the defense region, it won't ever be able to attain superiority over the one it's relying upon. Pakistan Inshallah has a lot of potential, everyone starts from somewhere.
As a Muslim i'd like to quote Quran and say, "Allah is enough as a friend and Allah is enough as a supporter".
 
Who need typhoon when JF-17 block-3 (high end version around 30 to 40 mil a piece) can give PAF parity (at least in air defense) till 5th gen arrive.
jf 17 block 3 ??
Block 2 ( which has ifr and a tweaked radar ) is not even had its first flight and you are taking block 3 into account???
 
As a Pakistani i'd say Pakistan should invest in the coming generations of jf-17 project as it would also provide self sufficiency in the specific field. If a certain country relies on another in the defense region, it won't ever be able to attain superiority over the one it's relying upon. Pakistan Inshallah has a lot of potential, everyone starts from somewhere.
As a Muslim i'd like to quote Quran and say, "Allah is enough as a friend and Allah is enough as a supporter".

True, JF-17 at least look like this with 5th gen tech in near future (block-3):

JF-17 pic from Bharat Rakshak forum.jpg
 

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