Opinionated - Could China invade the USA?

[PakFactor]

Neither China can invade US and neither can US invade China. That’s the short answer.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

USA will break apart from within like all empires do. If the constant political infighting and social unrest can do the job then there's no need for an alien invasion

 

[Feng Leng]

Without American help you would be polishing the boots of japanese soldiers

Without Chinese help, Japanese would have liberated the Native Americans from the colonialists.

 

[OBLiTeRate TrumpTurd]

I hope gradually PRC Central leadership circles are 100% populated by the TRUE patriotic Chinese who reject and refuse to worship the VERMIN Murican & Britese.

The VERMIN Murican USN GUAM base is gone and has been rendered useless by DF-26B.

With the upcoming PLAAF Robotic AI Spacecraft who recently flies for the Nth time, and carrying the Super Precise DF-17B type of Hypersonic missiles and rendered HAWAII and all the VERMIN Murican military bases on Earth completely impotent and useless in countering the PLA cutting edge asymmetric warfare.

Next, ... ...

PLAN & PLAAF will eventually upgrade the CUBAN & VENEZUELAN facilities and become a weekly visitors in CUBAN & VENEZUELAN ports & airbases and do the insulting & harassing reversed Flyby & FONOP on the VERMIN Murican West & East coast.

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Credit to Mr FENG LENG ... ... @Feng Leng

The new LAC between the VERMIN Murican & PRC will be 12 Nautical Miles around the VERMIN Murican West & East coast.

All PDF members who are Anti--CHINA ... you just watch this above fact unfold in between your dimwitted ears.

 

[nahtanbob]

Without Chinese help, Japanese would have liberated the Native Americans from the colonialists.

no amount of japanese imperial army in china makes a difference when you are getting nuked

 

[Feng Leng]

no amount of japanese imperial army in china makes a difference when you are getting nuked

You are lucky the Chinese invented the atomic bomb since your people are obviously too daft to do it yourselves. Look up Madam Wu.

 

[Beast]

Without American help you would be polishing the boots of japanese soldiers

That is not true. Bulk of Japanese troops are killed by Soviet in manchuria operation. US involvement is irrelevant. Without US, Soviet can easily takeout the IJA in mainland China.
Even in Europe theatre, bulk of Nazi were killed by Soviet. US plays very little role in defeating Nazi.

And why didn't Chinese fall like France to Nazi but managed to exist until the very end of WWII against IJA?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The US had nukes in 1945 no one else did. The US refused to unite the world under 1 flag when it had the chance. China would have done so if China was in the US's shoes.

 

[Figaro]

The US had nukes in 1945 no one else did. The US refused to unite the world under 1 flag when it had the chance. China would have done so if China was in the US's shoes.

Dude what are you even saying? Even if the USSR or China got the nuke first, I highly doubt they would use nukes against everyone else to unite them under one flag. You are talking about murdering hundreds of millions of people at the time, which is something Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan could not even do.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Dude what are you even saying? Even if the USSR or China got the nuke first, I highly doubt they would use nukes against everyone else to unite them under one flag. You are talking about murdering hundreds of millions of people at the time, which is something Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan could not even do.

Any country other than the US would have united the world under 1 flag if it had nukes no one else did. It was a opportunity that would never come again.

 

[Rollno21]

Can China invade Taiwan... Its been over 60 years now .

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Can China invade Taiwan... Its been over 60 years now .

Eventually.

 

[Bawag]

Could China invade or attack the USA? without going to war or attacking US forces in Japan or ROK.

and by invade. i mean take Guam, Palua, Micronesia, Wake, Johnston & Marshall islands. alaska, Hawaii or even land forces on the USA's West coast?

China Current Power Projection Forces Capabilities are limited both on the sea and in the air. and almost non existed on the Ground.

Ocean going Major Naval Forces
2 Carriers (combined can carry max 36-48 Fighter jets & 34 Helicopters)
1 Type 055 Guided Missile Cruiser (CGHM) +7 that are almost ready for service
15 Type 052D Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM) +10 that are almost ready for Service
8 Type 052C Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
2 Type 052B Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
2 Type 052 Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
0 Type 051C Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGM) (2 just retired)
1 Type 051B Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
1 Sovremenny 3 Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
2 Sovremenny 2 Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
1 Sovremenny 1 Guided Missile Destroyers (DDGHM)
30 Type 054A Guided Missile Frigates (FFGHM)
2 Type 054 Guided Missile Frigates (FFGHM)
7 Type 053H3 Guided Missile Frigates (FFGHM)
4 Type 051G Guided Missile Frigates (FFGM)
0 Type 053H2 Guided Missile Frigates (FFG) (1 Just retired)
0 Type 053H1G Guided Missile Frigates (FFG) (6 Just retired)
3 Type 053H1 Guided Missile Frigates (FFG)
81 total Ships +26 = 107 Ships

Amphibious Warfare Ships
0 Yushen Landing Helicopter Docks (LHD) +2 almost ready [60 Helicopters]
7 Yuzhao Landing Transportation Docks (LPD) +1 almost ready [480 tank/AIFV/APC, 6400 Troops & 32 Helicopters]
7 total plus 3 = 10 [480 Vehicles, 6400 troops & 92 Helicopters]

Landing Ships
33 LST [49 Tank/AIFV/APC & 6500 Troops]
31 LSM [310 Tank/AIFV/APC & 7750 Troops]
64 total ships [359 Vehicles & 14,250 Troops]

Total Amphibious ground forces max 839 Tank/AIFV/APC, 20,250 Troops & 92 Helicopters = 5 Combat Brigades



PLA Air Forces & PLAN Ground based forces
18 Aerial Fuel Tankers (PLAAF/PLAN)
82 Heavy & Medium Transport Planes (2 Brigades air dropped at a time)
14 Electronic Warfare planes
17 ELINT planes
3 ISR Planes
31 AEW&C2 Planes
164 H-6s Bombers

Jet Fighters
40 J20 (Advance)
97 SU30MKK/MK2 (Modern)
24 SU35 (Modern)
100 J16 (Modern)
52 SU27SK/UBK (Capable)
297 J11/B/BS (Capable)
248 J10s (Capable but old)
172 J8s (Hopeless)
512 J7s (Hopeless)
1542 Total Jet fighters

260 JH-7 Ground Attack


Airborne Corp & Amphibious Ground Forces
6 Airborne Brigades
2 Air Assault Brigades
11 Amphibious Brigades
1 Amphibious Mechanized Brigade
20 Combat Maneuver Brigades

1 Logistic Brigade
1 Combat Aviation Brigade (8 Attack helicopters)

173 Light Tanks (ZTQ-15, ZTD-05)
400 IFV (ZTL-11, ZBL-08, ZBD-03)

80 Self Propelled Artillery
120 Towed Artillery
54 Multiple Rocket Launchers
254 Indirect Fire Systems


Naval Outlook
China would have to move it's navy away from the protection of it land based anti ship/jet defense and leave it huge coastal Defense patrol ships. and would face the USN in the open ocean. with it lack of Carrier based Fighters, AEWC & EW assets. they would be committing suicide. and once the navy gone so is it chance to invade Guam.

Aerial Outlook
China total lack of allied bases and aerial Refueling Capabilities would mean it air Forces would be nearly nonexistent and the few that could would be out numbered and destroyed.

Ground Forces Outlook
can not do anything till the Air/Naval part of conflict is won or lost. at best 25,000 soldiers could be a 1st wave (Amphibious+ Air dropped). and each wave after would need to be smaller on account of logistics needed to sustain them and follow on forces.

Overall
at this point or even anytime in the near to mid future China doesn't have the capability to project forces to invade even Guam.

China current Forces are configured force Defense of China. it offensive abilities are limited to land invasions of Russia, India and other land based countries and possible land/sea invasion of ROK. but it's lack of amphibious and airborne capabilities make it hard to invade even Taiwan and impossible to invade Japan in offensive operations.

it only real way of attacking the USA is missile strikes. but even here most of it conventional missiles have limited range.

China is not a Military threat to the USA. it is a Economic & Geopolitical Threat to the USA in not only the Pacific/Asia but the world. Which is more important then Military power.

Chin will surpass the USA in economic and then as the main Geopolitical power even if it never surpasses or even has the ability to attack/invade the USA conventional. and for real that all that matters.

the Germany Empire Military Forces in 1867 was more powerful the the UK. but the UK because of it Economic, Geopolitical, Navy & English channel was the most dominant power in the world. unless something internally happens. China will be the worlds most dominant nation. and they can do it without firing a shot or fighting a war.

and that the long game the leaders in China are planning

Post your thoughts

Not in near future, perhaps after 5-6 decades given the current momentum of Chinese Defense Development.

I once watched a documentary in which an American analyst said something like this "If our navy decides to go to war with all of the navies of the world, at the end we will still emerge as victorious". I don't know whether it is true but that bad-*** statement was issued with a hell of a confidence

 

[baqai]

i think gone are the days of physical war, china can cripple America economically and financially