Opinion: Iran Is Exhausted!

[haman10]

Iran is exhausted after bending over so many PGCC countries. Need a Redbull to recover

Iran is exhausted

F-ing delirious people

 

[Aramagedon]

Your salvation is in your submission.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

So now you are dreaming about Iran 'submitting' to Saudi Arabia only by reading a junk pile of words on A-Awsat? Interesting.

Sometimes I wonder, why Gulf countries & Co don't have any renowned scientists or scholars and don't contribute anything to the world except oil and fundamentalism or terrorism, and with posts like this, I get closer to my answer. Because most of you people have delusions beyond belief, staying in the 7th century, no matter how many modern skyscrapers you build.

For a second I thought I was talking to a Swedish member, so I had to second check your flags. Not to an Iranian whose country is the perfect example of backwardness, oppression, terrorism, and corruption.

 

[Serpentine]

For a second I thought I was talking to a Swedish member, so I had to second check your flags. Not to an Iranian whose country is the perfect example of backwardness, oppression, terrorism, and corruption.

No need to check my flags. I was talking about scholars and scientists. You can do a small search on Google and see for Yourself number of Iranian scholars and scientists. It's nothing new, we always vastly outperformed much larger Arab population around us since centuries ago and the so called Islamic Golden Age.

So you are the one needing to submit and you actually do. That's why your leaders are talking about us 24/7 and spend billions upon billions to buy weapons only because they are shit scared from us.

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

No need to check my flags. I was talking about scholars and scientists. You can do a small search on Google and see for Yourself number of Iranian scholars and scientists. It's nothing new, we always vastly outperformed much larger Arab population around us since centuries ago and the so called Islamic Golden Age.

So you are the one needing to submit and you actually do. That's why your leaders are talking about us 24/7 and spend billions upon billions to buy weapons only because they are shit scared from us.

There were many more Arab Islamic scholars than Iranians and as many if not probably more Arab scientists as well. If you want to speak about science then study pre-Islamic history and realize which people invented the most significant ancient inventions and who built the most impressive ancient heritage sites. Hint, they were not Iranians but the ancestors of modern-day Arabs (Semites). Which Iranian scientists can you mention before Islam? Oh, wait. So much for the false "superiority complex".

Wait a second. Last time I saw Arab leaders are not people of an Iranian origin (the leaders of Iran are of Arab origin mostly) nor do they meddle in Iranian affairs 24/7. Nor did Iran invade any Arab country in recent decades. It was the other way around (Iraq).

@BLACKEAGLE has a very good point. You are talking as if you were Sweden and everything was perfect but that could not be further from the truth. In fact I am pretty sure, that Jordan, despite having a much, much smaller population, no natural resources and being overrun by migrants, has a better GDP per capita (nominal), HDI index and in general fewer problems. In reality the social, political etc. problems that Iran and several Arab countries face, are similar. That's a fact whether you or I like this.

Yes, we are so scared. You must be too since you are continuing to arm yourself as well. Surprise, it's the ME. EVERYONE is engaged in a arms race 24/7 due to the political situation. That was even the case before the Mullah's took power when your Shah was the biggest American and Israeli costumer. How things change. You know what, you would spend just as much on military if you had not been sanctioned due to the stupidity of your leaders.

Anyway there will not be an Arab-Iran war so its a pointless discussion.

 

[raptor22]

I believe the Iranian politicians are politically stupid. We remember when Saudi gov executed Alnemer. Iran could have use this case for its favor, but because they have lack of understanding politics they sat Saudi embassy on fire, which only served Saudi position 100% to show the world how failed and chaos Iran is. This situation illustrates how does Iran deal with current regional conflicts and how they've dealt with their nuclear program too. They signed an agreement with western countries that only assures Istekbar jahani to not have a nuclear bomb but concurrently it doesn't grant Iran to get all its frozen money and to be accepted from many countries. With the current oil prices, I can say that Iran is still on sanction that will never be lifted by just making a deal with the US and some European countries.

First of all prove that Iran politicians were behind the storming Saudi embassy in Tehran then make your argument ....
And on current regional issues Iran has done a great job , we've prevented Baghdad and Damascus from falling into the hands of terrorists and we all know whom support them on the daily basis and whilst all countries around us are under the threat of terrorism, war and Sectarian conflicts Iranians without any fear are living safe and sound ... our scientific publications is far ahead of all Arab countries combined which could be called a disaster in comparison between the population and wealth that Arabs have ...
And on "Istekbar Jahani" first of all I am truly glad to see you've started learning Persian as far as it's the language of poem, art and science moreover Iran is the first country in the world that has canceled the UNSC resolution under chapter seven of this council without doing it through negotiations , Iran right to enrich has been accepted and Iran enrich uranium right now and meanwhile is working on its advanced and modern centrifuges .... while they don't have any more reason to threat us or wage war against us ...

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

First of all prove that Iran politicians were behind the storming Saudi embassy in Tehran then make your argument ....
And on current regional issues Iran has done a great job , we've prevented Baghdad and Damascus from falling into the hands of terrorists and we all know whom support them on the daily basis and whilst all countries around us are under the threat of terrorism, war and Sectarian conflicts Iranians without any fear are living safe and sound ... our scientific publications is far ahead of all Arab countries combined which could be called a disaster in comparison between the population and wealth that Arabs have ...
And on "Istekbar Jahani" first of all I am truly glad to see you've started learning Persian as far as it's the language of poem, art and science moreover Iran is the first country in the world that has canceled the UNSC resolution under chapter seven of this council without doing it through negotiations , Iran right to enrich has been accepted and Iran enrich uranium right now and meanwhile is working on its advanced and modern centrifuges .... while they don't have any more reason to threat us or wage war against us ...

Of course they were. No big demonstration in a state like Iran happens spontaneously and without any state control. Everything is carefully prepared.

80% of the Arab countries are as safe and on many fronts safer than Iran. Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, KSA, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait (the entire GCC practically), Jordan etc. all have had fewer terrorist attacks, separatists groups etc. in the past 15 years. Lower crime levels as well.

You have not prevented anything. The Syrian Arab Army and Iraqis have alongside with Russia, USA and regional countries. That's a joke, as recently one of your friends posted a supposed "scientific statistic" that showed that KSA published more scientific papers per capita than almost 80 million big Iran.

Arabic is a richer language than Persian and is the language of poetry, music, art and science as well. Look how many scientific words derive from Arabic. From astronomy to chemistry. Much more than Persian. Besides up to 40% of Persian vocabulary derives from Arabic...........You are using a slightly modified Arabic alphabet just like numerous other non-Arab people.

Not only that Arabic is the lingua franca of the Islamic world, the language of the Noble Qur'an and the 5th most spoken language in the world and one of the most influential.

So yeah, try to impress Arabs again with Persian in your crusade of false superiority.

Yes, be VERY proud that you have a much lower HDI index, GDP per capita (nominal) than even some war-torn Arab countries despite having many more people and much more natural resources etc. It must also be such a great performance to beat much less populous and often war torn Arab states in the past decades. At least you are doing better than your neighbors Afghanistan and your superior brothers in Tajikistan. I guess that their "Aryan" blood somehow prevented them from rising like you have risen for all to see.... Somehow both are doing worse than even the worst and most unstable Arab states. Strange.

 

[raptor22]

Of course they were. No big demonstration in a state like Iran happens spontaneously and without any state control. Everything is carefully prepared.

80% of the Arab countries are as safe and on many fronts safer than Iran. Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, KSA, Oman, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait (the entire GCC practically), Jordan etc. all have had fewer terrorist attacks, separatists groups etc. in the past 15 years. Lower crime levels as well.

You have not prevented anything. The Syrian Arab Army and Iraqis have alongside with Russia, USA and regional countries. That's a joke, as recently one of your friends posted a supposed "scientific statistic" that showed that KSA published more scientific papers per capita than almost 80 million big Iran.

Arabic is a richer language than Persian and is the language of poetry, music, art and science as well. Look how many scientific words derive from Arabic. From astronomy to chemistry. Much more than Persian. Besides up to 40% of Persian vocabulary derives from Arabic...........You are using a slightly modified Arabic alphabet just like numerous other non-Arab people.

Not only that Arabic is the lingua franca of the Islamic world, the language of the Noble Qur'an and the 5th most spoken language in the world and one of the most influential.

So yeah, try to impress Arabs again with Persian in your crusade of false superiority.

Yes, be VERY proud that you have a much lower HDI index, GDP per capita (nominal) than even some war-torn Arab countries despite having many more people and much more natural resources etc. It must also be such a great performance to beat much less populous and often war torn Arab states in the past decades. At least you are doing better than your neighbors Afghanistan and your superior brothers in Tajikistan. I guess that their "Aryan" blood somehow prevented them from rising like you have risen for all to see.... Somehow both are doing worse than even the worst and most unstable Arab states. Strange.

I can not find any document or evidence provided by you which proves involvement of Iranian politicians in Saudi embassy storming in Tehran happened months ago in your comment whatsoever ....
And about the rest of your comment you are right ...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Iran's road to full economic recovery will take Five years

The Frozen assets will take time to reach Iran

Add to it the current low oil and gas price and the huge backlog of
investments needed in the economy-- it means lots of hard work ahead

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

I can not find any document or evidence provided by you which proves involvement of Iranian politicians in Saudi embassy storming in Tehran happened months ago in your comment whatsoever ....
And about the rest of your comment you are right ...

Ok, let's say that there was no involvement at all and that every policeman present did all his best to prevent what occurred. If we use such a logic why do you then collectively blame KSA for deliberately creating a thunder storm in Makkah that caused a crane to fall or blaming KSA for deliberately causing a stampede? Your national media almost anonymously believed that those two tragic events were planned to target some ordinary Iranian pilgrims. All while for the past 25 years or so millions upon millions of Iranians, some high-ranking, having visited without a single incident or death.

Did Iran then deliberately poison those 2-3 Saudi Arabian Shia families who visited Mashhad to visit the shrine of Imam al-Ridha (ra) before any of those 3 incidents?

Can you rationally explain to me why there were no problems between KSA and Iran before 1979? Why could head of states, clerics, fishermen and ordinary people visit each country without any problems or incidents?

If Arabs are such evil people and anti-Iranian, in particular GCC Arabs, who share most in common with neighboring Iranians of all the Arabs alongside Iraqi Shia Arabs, in particular with Iranian Arabs, Lurs and Persians, have been able to welcome numerous people of Iranian origin (who are now citizens) and migrants (biggest Iranian diaspora outside the US is in the GCC) why could all this then occur? Can you rationally explain this? Have you compared their living standards, rights etc. with what the average Iranian Arab has to live with despite living in the richest area of Iran in terms of resources? Do you see discrimination in the GCC towards citizens of Iranian origin or Iranian migrants? Is the world talking about this or is the world and region talking about the sad situation and condition of many Iranian Arabs? Why is there not a single person of Iranian origin in the GCC or a single Iranian migrant community leader who complains while you have numerous Iranian Arabs in exile who complain? Sit down, drink some tea or coffee, and reply to me honestly after reading this post. Then we can talk about who hates who.

@raptor22 will you please answer this post. Problems and misunderstanding can only be solved through mutual dialogue which is needed for both regimes.

 

[raptor22]

Ok, let's say that there was no involvement at all and that every policeman present did all his best to prevent what occurred. If we use such a logic why do you then collectively blame KSA for deliberately creating a thunder storm in Makkah that caused a crane to fall or blaming KSA for deliberately causing a stampede? Your national media almost anonymously believed that those two tragic events were planned to target some ordinary Iranian pilgrims. All while for the past 25 years or so millions upon millions of Iranians, some high-ranking, having visited without a single incident or death.

Did Iran then deliberately poison those 2-3 Saudi Arabian Shia families who visited Mashhad to visit the shrine of Imam al-Ridha (ra) before any of those 3 incidents?

Can you rationally explain to me why there were no problems between KSA and Iran before 1979? Why could head of states, clerics, fishermen and ordinary people visit each country without any problems or incidents?



If Arabs are such evil people and anti-Iranian, in particular GCC Arabs, who share most in common with neighboring Iranians of all the Arabs alongside Iraqi Shia Arabs, in particular with Iranian Arabs, Lurs and Persians, have been able to welcome numerous people of Iranian origin (who are now citizens) and migrants (biggest Iranian diaspora outside the US is in the GCC) why could all this then occur? Can you rationally explain this? Have you compared their living standards, rights etc. with what the average Iranian Arab has to live with despite living in the richest area of Iran in terms of resources? Do you see discrimination in the GCC towards citizens of Iranian origin or Iranian migrants? Is the world talking about this or is the world and region talking about the sad situation and condition of many Iranian Arabs? Why is there not a single person of Iranian origin in the GCC or a single Iranian migrant community leader who complains while you have numerous Iranian Arabs in exile who complain? Sit down, drink some tea or coffee, and reply to me honestly after reading this post. Then we can talk about who hates who.

@raptor22 will you please answer this post. Problems and misunderstanding can only be solved through mutual dialogue which is needed for both regimes.

About Saudi embassy event still I demand evidence which apparently you do lack , so that case is closed for now till you come up with some documents .
On Haj and events took place last year in Mecca, I have no idea whether Saudis were behind it or not and I have not seen any Iranian politicians claimed that crane tragedy was a plot done by Saudi authorities to kill specific pilgrims and as you mentioned maybe "national media" had such a explanation for this event not politicians ....
What made Iranian furious at Saudis was a chain of events took place in the row and showed irresponsibility of Saudis , for example 2 Iranian teenagers were raped in your airport by those who were supposed to welcome pilgrims of Masjed al-Haram , then crane tragedy occurred and ended in stampede and we lost 400 of our countrymen ... and in none of these events Saudis didn't apologized and meanwhile they tried to hold Iranian pilgrims responsible for it moreover they tried to keep Iranian corpses and not sending them to Iran ....and we still waiting to see the final verdict of those two guards in Airport and at least an apology from Saudi authorities ....

And I do believe we should take care more of our Arab brothers 'casue they were the first whom stood against Iraq invasion back in 80s supported by the petrol $ of the same PGCC Arabs, who share most in common with neighboring Iranians .... if you share with Iranians you do share more with Yemeni people neighboring you and we witnessed how you treated them .

Actually Iranians have been always first amongst developing countries esp when it comes to a nation rights for instance Iran was the first nation amongst developing countries that formed a parliament and started it's own semi-democracy , Iranian were the first nation which nationalized their own oil industry and this movement inspired former Egyptian president Jamal Abdul Naser and ended in nationalizing Suez canal ...
By the way despite all these efforts put by Iranian and despite all suffering caused by external players , westerns powers played rough against us and prevented Iranian from reaching their goals for example our efforts to establish parliament ended by bombing our parliament with a Russian commander or our attempts to nationalize Iran oil industry turned to nothing due to a military coup orchestrated by MI6 and CIA to keep king in the power the one who his father and him were brought to the power by British colonial power ....
Finally we revolted against and demanded democracy and an end to meddling and interfering in our internal affairs once for all ....
What happened aftermath of the Islamic revolution back in 1979 regarding Arab monarchies in the Persian gulf and mutual relations with Iran was nothing but fear of happening the same scenario in their own countries , the idea of revolting against ruler seen as a dangerous notion and Iran was considered as a virus that should not be spread through the ME ...

the reason why we didn't experience any problem btw Shah and other monarchies was nothing but the nature of a kingdom in the ME they were all the same and American and Briton were behind their power in the first place ... there were their for one thing serving American interest .

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

About Saudi embassy event still I demand evidence which apparently you do lack , so that case is closed for now till you come up with some documents .
On Haj and events took place last year in Mecca, I have no idea whether Saudis were behind it or not and I have not seen any Iranian politicians claimed that crane tragedy was a plot done by Saudi authorities to kill specific pilgrims and as you mentioned maybe "national media" had such a explanation for this event not politicians ....
What made Iranian furious at Saudis was a chain of events took place in the row and showed irresponsibility of Saudis , for example 2 Iranian teenagers were raped in your airport by those who were supposed to welcome pilgrims of Masjed al-Haram , then crane tragedy occurred and ended in stampede and we lost 400 of our countrymen ... and in none of these events Saudis didn't apologized and meanwhile they tried to hold Iranian pilgrims responsible for it moreover they tried to keep Iranian corpses and not sending them to Iran ....and we still waiting to see the final verdict of those two guards in Airport and at least an apology from Saudi authorities ....

And I do believe we should take care more of our Arab brothers 'casue they were the first whom stood against Iraq invasion back in 80s supported by the petrol $ of the same PGCC Arabs, who share most in common with neighboring Iranians .... if you share with Iranians you do share more with Yemeni people neighboring you and we witnessed how you treated them .

Actually Iranians have been always first amongst developing countries esp when it comes to a nation rights for instance Iran was the first nation amongst developing countries that formed a parliament and started it's own semi-democracy , Iranian were the first nation which nationalized their own oil industry and this movement inspired former Egyptian president Jamal Abdul Naser and ended in nationalizing Suez canal ...
By the way despite all these efforts put by Iranian and despite all suffering caused by external players , westerns powers played rough against us and prevented Iranian from reaching their goals for example our efforts to establish parliament ended by bombing our parliament with a Russian commander or our attempts to nationalize Iran oil industry turned to nothing due to a military coup orchestrated by MI6 and CIA to keep king in the power the one who his father and him were brought to the power by British colonial power ....
Finally we revolted against and demanded democracy and an end to meddling and interfering in our internal affairs once for all ....
What happened aftermath of the Islamic revolution back in 1979 regarding Arab monarchies in the Persian gulf and mutual relations with Iran was nothing but fear of happening the same scenario in their own countries , the idea of revolting against ruler seen as a dangerous notion and Iran was considered as a virus that should not be spread through the ME ...

the reason why we didn't experience any problem btw Shah and other monarchies was nothing but the nature of a kingdom in the ME they were all the same and American and Briton were behind their power in the first place ... there were their for one thing serving American interest .

I don't need any evidence. The police could easily have prevented the embarrassment but they did not.

There was not any rape. Only inappropriate conduct and those two officers were punished and sentenced to jail sentences.

You are a big late (almost 1 year) for the news.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/saudi-airp...-jail-sexually-harassing-iranian-boys-1505533

The two were given 4 year prison sentences and 1000 lashes.

Have Iranians punished those responsible for the poisoning and those who burned another sovereign country's embassy? Nothing at all as expected.

Actually in the past 83 years only Iranian pilgrims have been causing problems in Makkah and Madinah. This is widely documented. Somehow whenever there has been problems in the past, often Iranian pilgrims are involved. What are you talking about? All bodies have been returned and the wounded Iranian pilgrims got the same care as other wounded. They were even visited by the King because he took interest in them.

Houthi's, who are terrorists, do not speak for all 25 million Yemenis.....You share more in common with the stateless Kurds and Baloch than Arabs but you have fought against them countless of times and are still fighting against their separatists. Khomeini was the one who provoked the neighborhood in 1979 and of course Arab states, despite treacherous Ba'ath government of Syria and the Gaddafi lunatic supporting Iran, were going to support a fellow Arab state and neighbor over a foreign state, especially as that foreign state was making threats and openly hostile comments.

Too bad that you have not been helping those Iranian Arabs for almost 30 years by now suffuciently......

Another Persian lie and delusion. Egypt's parliament is 50 years older than the Iranian one and it was founded in 1866. So no, you were not first in anything in this regard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Egypt

Another Persian lie and delusion. You were not the first nation to nationalize your oil (which was discovered by the British in 1908). The Soviet Union and states such as Bolivia and Mexico did it before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalization_of_oil_supplies

Yes, Iran is the only country in the region where the West meddled. They meddled in no Arab country whatsoever and Arab countries have not struggled from their meddling either. That is all correct.

Yes, because what you have now is much different compared to the Shah's time in terms of what is democracy and what is not. You cannot fool anyone with such nonsense.

Using that logic you are currently an Russian puppet. Or an isolated country who desperately wants to become an equal in the world diplomacy. North Korea also prides themselves of being "independent". How is that going for them? I could mention tons of other failed states who do the same.

I was talking people to people relations not to say that there was no sectarianism in the region. Funnily enough it all started in 1979.

Never mind.

 

[Madali]

Your salvation is in your submission.

King of Jordan's life motto.