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April 5, 2015

Yemen operation is good test run for an Arab army

It’s been more than a week since a Saudi Arabian-led coalition launched air strikes against Houthi rebel targets in Yemen. Operation Decisive Storm is made up of 10 Sunni states.

The coalition has launched hundreds of sorties and destroyed multiple Houthi-related targets. It has targeted ballistic missiles that had been seized by the Shia militant movement, and air defence and ammunition storage facilities. Former Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh’s military assets and supporters are also being targeted.

Interestingly, the Saudis’ coordination of the air, land and sea operations is being kept fairly opaque. The command centre is said to be at Prince Sultan Air Base with fighters flying out of King Khalid Air Base but there’s no certainty about that. And yet, Saudi Brigadier General Ahmed Bin Hasan Asiri, who is described as a “consultant” at the ministry of defence, is giving daily press briefings. This shows that Saudi Arabia knows how to disseminate information, which is a plus in today’s interconnected world. It is also unprecedented for the kingdom.

Now that we are on the cusp of the formalisation of an Arab military alliance, the lessons of Operation Decisive Storm will be especially important. The complexities of the Yemeni operations equal those of some others that might happen in the Middle East and North Africa region in the forseeable future. Some say an Arab alliance will have to tackle Libya in a year’s time.

Saudi Arabia is leading the ongoing operation in Yemen with a hundred aircraft. These are likely to include fighter planes such as F-15S Strike Eagles. Bahrain and Qatar are flying up to 12 of their F-16s and Mirage 2000s. The UAE is supplying 30 aircraft, while Morocco and Jordan have deployed six F-16s each. Kuwait has sent 15 F/A-18 Hornets.

The use of air power to achieve strategic and tactical goals is grounded in American and Nato operations. Egypt’s aerial contribution has been unclear so far. It seems to be focused on maritime security and potential land operations. Sudan is the most surprising of the participants, with three Sukhoi Su-24 Fencers. This is the point at which interoperability issues come to mind, with Russian-made aircraft in a joint operation with western-manufactured fighter planes. This issue is likely to be key in any future Arab military alliance.

But for the most part, the coalition seems to be working well together, so far. We need to remember that many of the 10 Sunni states have participated in bilateral and multilateral exercises over the past few years, especially in the wake of the Arab Spring. For example, the joint Saudi-Pakistani Al Samsam 5 military exercises. A year ago, Saudi Arabia held the Abdullah Sword military exercise, which featured at least 120,000 troops and a parade of ballistic missiles. Importantly, leaders of the current Arab Sunni coalition were also present.

The Arab military alliance’s structure is being tested now in live operations. The plan is for Saudi Arabia to organise and fund the alliance under the so-called Salman Doctrine, which the well-networked Saudi commentator Jamal Khashoggi has described as the King’s decision “that Saudi interest comes first” and that it cannot link its fate to the alliance with the US. The doctrine also embraces Saudi’s more proactive “alliance with its brothers and friends from the Arab and Muslim world,” Khashoggi says.

Riyadh is to be the headquarters for any Arab military alliance, much like Brussels is for Nato. Personnel will be an important test of engagement and Saudi Arabia will provide 50 per cent; Pakistan 15 per cent; Egypt 10 per cent; the UAE, Jordan and Morocco five per cent each; Sudan four per cent and Bahrain, Kuwait, and Qatar two per cent each. The total number of soldiers is still subject to debate but could be anywhere between 7,000 and 100,000.

Doctrinal issues will be paramount in the new Arab alliance if and when it comes into being and begins to operate. Arab militaries historically learn doctrine and tactics from western and Russian institutions. Now, there is a push for doctrinal manuals in Arabic. That said, regardless of western and Russian influences, the Arab approach to warfare is distinct and will be evident. By taking the lead, Saudi Arabia will be seen to be putting together a unified force that re-establishes the historical greatness of Arab armies.

It goes without saying that it is not just a big step forward for Riyadh but a huge lunge into the future. King Salman is not only the custodian of the two holiest mosques in Islam, but Saudi Arabia is seen as defender of the Sunni Arab realm. The military alliance, therefore, will send a powerful message and win over hearts and minds in Arab capitals, especially as the Mena region is roiled by upheaval.

Some may argue that Operation Decisive Storm will not lead to Arab unity because disagreements between alliance members will become more apparent if Yemen becomes the Saudi equivalent of what Vietnam is to the US.

This is always a possibility but there’s no sign of that in the second week of the operation. If the coalition achieves some measure of success, it will be an important lesson and a key stage in the evolution of a joint Arab army.


Dr Theodore Karasik is a Dubai-based analyst on the Gulf with a specific focus on Saudi Arabia

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My Persian friend we will Protect the Holy Cities from any Fitna...:pakistan:

There is a verse in Quran saying some thing like... 'fitna is worst than bloodshed'

Irrespective of holy cities, this fitna must be defeated, where ever possible.
Egypt was one example of victory over foreign planted fitna getting defeated out of unexpected.
In Pakistan too, army eventually overran united political opposition and fitna is on the run.
 
I love how Saudis get joy out of killing other Arabs and they come here boasting to us Iranians as if they killed Iranian people lmaooo

Arab on Arab fight. We win in the end, no matter who dies.
THANK YOU FOR PROVING MY POINT THAT IRANIANS ARE USING ARAB SHIA AND SHIASIM FOR THEIR AGENDA.
 
I did not specify Pakistani troops. I was quoting troops in general
bhai jee we should stay away at any cost it is only way for us to move or else be ready for being next yemen lebnon syria .tell me what saudi will do if we have war with india ? they will never even stop trade with india let alone come and fight for us .
 
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Armed Yemeni supporters of the separatist Southern Movement hold a position during clashes with Shiite Huthi
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A man displays the bloodied shirt of a victim at the rubble of houses destroyed by an air strike in the Okash village near Sanaa. An air strike on a village near the Yemeni capital Sanaa killed a family of nine, residents said on Saturday, in what appeared to be a hit by the Saudi-led military campaign against Houthi militia.
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A family flees with their belongings last week, fearing renewed airstrikes in Sanaa.Mohamed Al Sayaghi / Reuters
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UAE fighter jets launched a successful airstrike against a number of Houthi-controlled targets in Yemen on Saturday. Wam
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The airstrike was dubbed Al Maliki operation in memory of Sulieman bin Ali Al Harazi Al Maliki, the first Saudi soldier killed in the Operation Decisive Storm as part of Saudi-led Arab coalition of 10 nations to reinstate legitimacy in Yemen. Wam
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The UAE fighter jets struck a surface-to-air missile (SAM) base and a radar site in Marib and returned to their bases safely. Wam
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The commander of the UAE squadron said the Al Maliki airstrike underscored ‘’our standing with our brothers in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s armed forces and air forces and the leadership, government and people of Saudi Arabia’. Wam
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bhai jee we should stay away at any cost it is only way for us to move or else be ready for being next yemen lebnon syria .tell me what saudi will do if we have war with india ? they will never even stop trade with india let alone come and fight for us .
tell me one war that it involved muslims and saudi whether government or ppl didnt stand with them ? you are talking nonsense and honestly if thats your opinion we dont care keep it to yourself. and dont speak on behalf of saudies.
 
Supporters of Yemen’s southern separatist movement drive a tank flying the movement’s flag in the Khor Maksar neighbourhood of Yemen’s southern port city of Aden as they fight against the Shiite Houthi advance in the city on April 2, 2015. Saleh Al Obeidi/AFP Photo
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Militiamen loyal to Yemeni president Abdrabu Mansur Hadi collect boxes full of weapons dropped by the Saudi-led coalition in Aden on April 3, 2015. EPA
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tell me one war that it involved muslims and saudi whether government or ppl didnt stand with them ? you are talking nonsense and honestly if thats your opinion we dont care keep it to yourself. and dont speak on behalf of saudies.
i have right to speak here sir . and please give us info what saudi did in 1999 kargil war or 1971 when pakistn fall apart? its best time to mind our businesses and i am ok with development till now . just talks no actions by pakistan .and i never talk on behalf of anyone its my opinion .and sure wish you best of luck in war .hope you guys win it .
 
i have right to speak here sir . and please give us info what saudi did in 1999 kargil war or 1971 when pakistn fall apart? its best time to mind our businesses and i am ok with development till now . just talks no actions by pakistan .and i never talk on behalf of anyone its my opinion .and sure wish you best of luck in war .hope you guys win it .
i didnt say dont talk i said dont talk on behalf of Saudis. if pakistan went to war we will stand next to pakistan. we the ppl before the government.
you can ask the pakistani government about our position in your past wars. during 1999 pakistan was our number one country that we were financing
and you should know saudi today is not saudi from the 70s or 90s.
saudi always stood next to pakistan. and lets hope pakistan dosnt go into another war and start focusing on investing in its ppl and infrastructure. no one would be more happy to see a strong pakistan than us.
 
Pointless war IMO had it not been for the Houthi cult and their KSA obsession. Sending land troops would/will only serve as valuable training and experience in the case of other future wars/conflicts. Yes, it would likely only take a few weeks before the Houthi's would be pushed back to their strongholds in the Northernmost regions of Yemen but then what?

The crucial thing is to make the Yemenis themselves realize that the Houthi's just like AQAP are not the solution for any sane country. They have to keep the Houthi's at bay and fight them long-term if a peace settlement cannot be reached which would be the best thing. Not foreigners.

Yemen is a quagmire like Afghanistan. History shows this clearly.

To me this looks like a statement from King Salman which is fine. Rooting out the Houthi's in such a highly mountainous terrain when they have a significant support in their strongholds in Northern Yemen is mission impossible. Just like the US (utmost military power on the planet) failed to remove Taliban and Al-Qaeda/ISIS in Iraq.

But hey, that's the ME for you of today.:lol:

Sane people should not give a crap anymore. The GCC should cut themselves off from the region and have ties with the West, China and Israel only. The Muslim world is nothing but trouble.

I am on your side now @Mosamania . It took some time but let's hope that the internal cancer cells within KSA/Arab world/Muslim world will be liquidated starting which you know who and what. Eventually this will happen.
 
i didnt say dont talk i said dont talk on behalf of Saudis. if pakistan went to war we will stand next to pakistan. we the ppl before the government.
you can ask the pakistani government about our position in your past wars. during 1999 pakistan was our number one country that we were financing
and you should know saudi today is not saudi from the 70s or 90s.
saudi always stood next to pakistan. and lets hope pakistan dosnt go into another war and start focusing on investing in its ppl and infrastructure. no one would be more happy to see a strong pakistan than us.
everything in your post i agree but only one info we have 20% shia population and we have shia on all ranks even they become president and PM and army chiefs of pakistan if we go in this war we will be next yemen - lebnon or syria its is my worse fear .sectarian war will lead s to hell and a dream of developed growing peaceful Pakistan will be not come true ever .

Pointless war IMO had it not been for the Houthi cult and their KSA obsession. Sending land troops would/will only serve as valuable training and experience in the case of other future wars/conflicts. Yes, it would likely only take a few weeks before the Houthi's would be pushed back to their strongholds in the Northernmost regions of Yemen but then what?

The crucial thing is to make the Yemenis themselves realize that the Houthi's just like AQAP are not the solution for any sane country. They have to keep the Houthi's at bay and fight them long-term if a peace settlement cannot be reached which would be the best thing. Not foreigners.

Yemen is a quagmire like Afghanistan. History shows this clearly.

To me this looks like a statement from King Salman which is fine. Rooting out the Houthi's in such a highly mountainous terrain when they have a significant support in their strongholds in Northern Yemen is mission impossible. Just like the US (utmost military power on the planet) failed to remove Taliban and Al-Qaeda/ISIS in Iraq.

But hey, that's the ME for you of today.:lol:

Sane people should not give a crap anymore. The GCC should cut themselves off from the region and have ties with the West, China and Israel only. The Muslim world is nothing but trouble.

I am on your side now @Mosamania . It took some time but let's hope that the internal cancer cells within KSA/Arab world/Muslim world will be liquidated starting which you know who and what. Eventually this will happen.
no one can fix Afghanistan Somalia and Yemen its waste of resources and lives
 
everything in your post i agree but only one info we have 20% shia population and we have shia on all ranks even they become president and PM and army chiefs of pakistan if we go in this war we will be next yemen - lebnon or syria its is my worse fear .sectarian war will lead s to hell and a dream of developed growing peaceful Pakistan will be not come true ever .


no one can fix Afghanistan Somalia and Yemen its waste of resources and lives

May I correct you here. Most of the Muslim world is a waste of resources and lives. The GCC despite the regimes there are one of the few remaining lights alongside with Turkey.

Who gives a crap about all this anyway? All sides have blood on their hands and all have committed mistakes and to the majority of the world all of them are retards.
 
i have right to speak here sir . and please give us info what saudi did in 1999 kargil war or 1971 when pakistn fall apart? its best time to mind our businesses and i am ok with development till now . just talks no actions by pakistan .and i never talk on behalf of anyone its my opinion .and sure wish you best of luck in war .hope you guys win it .
Kargil was such a foolie that even China didnt stand with Pakistan. You dont behave like drunk driver and always expect your friends to get you out of Jail.​
 
May I correct you here. Most of the Muslim world is a waste of resources and lives. The GCC despite the regimes there are one of the few remaining lights alongside with Turkey.

Who gives a crap about all this anyway? All sides have blood on their hands and all have committed mistakes and to the majority of the world all of them are retards.
i agree stay away from this scrap man
 
Pointless war IMO had it not been for the Houthi cult and their KSA obsession. Sending land troops would/will only serve as valuable training and experience in the case of other future wars/conflicts. Yes, it would likely only take a few weeks before the Houthi's would be pushed back to their strongholds in the Northernmost regions of Yemen but then what?

The crucial thing is to make the Yemenis themselves realize that the Houthi's just like AQAP are not the solution for any sane country. They have to keep the Houthi's at bay and fight them long-term if a peace settlement cannot be reached which would be the best thing. Not foreigners.

Yemen is a quagmire like Afghanistan. History shows this clearly.

To me this looks like a statement from King Salman which is fine. Rooting out the Houthi's in such a highly mountainous terrain when they have a significant support in their strongholds in Northern Yemen is mission impossible. Just like the US (utmost military power on the planet) failed to remove Taliban and Al-Qaeda/ISIS in Iraq.

But hey, that's the ME for you of today.:lol:

Sane people should not give a crap anymore. The GCC should cut themselves off from the region and establish ties with the West, China and Israel only. The Muslim world is nothing but trouble.

I am on your side now @Mosamania . It took some time but let's hope that the internal cancer cells within KSA/Arab world/Muslim world will be liquidated starting which you know who and what. Eventually this will happen.
yemen in shaa Allah wont be like Afghanistan Iraq or Syria. first ali abdullah saleh and houthies are exposed and everyone hate their guts in yemen. the country is surrounded and blocked. so its not like iraq where they have 1400+ km border with iran.
they are running out of weapons and supply. they are being hunted. and the war is still 11 days young.
its not like afghanistan where US a kafir nation invaded a country without any reason. all this osama bin laden was crap. taliban it self told the americans give us one proof and we will give you osama. cuz they made a deal with osama he can stay and they will protect him but he cant do operations against countries.
we are not strangers to yemeni ppl we are their family and brothers. we are neighbors. so i dont see how this will be anything like any previous war.
it has nothing in common with other wars in the region.
and let me tell you something from watching saudi TV. from their new tone against iran i think king salman is planning something else. not just yemen. he has plans for them. saudi TV never use to talk this way. so thats something worth noticing.


everything in your post i agree but only one info we have 20% shia population and we have shia on all ranks even they become president and PM and army chiefs of pakistan if we go in this war we will be next yemen - lebnon or syria its is my worse fear .sectarian war will lead s to hell and a dream of developed growing peaceful Pakistan will be not come true ever .


no one can fix Afghanistan Somalia and Yemen its waste of resources and lives
we know you have shia. and the saudi government dealt with all pakistan sunni and shia. the government never ever took sides.
even in yemen we always dealt with all yemenies and zaidis.
same thing with lebanon. we dealt with all the lebanese.
some ppl are trying to make this a pure sectarian war.
yes its a factor but that dosnt mean the government is taking saides in a sectarian war. the ppl are.
the government said it. it will save all the yemenies not just the sunnies. and all yemenies will take part of the new government. regardless of sect!
 
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