Operation Asifa: 45 Indian soldiers killed by Kashmiri resistance in Pulwama.

[M. Sarmad]

....Killing on both sides is totally unnecessary....It's all usual unless one takes a hit

If the Indians want to save the lives of Indian soldiers, they (i.e the Indian government) must pursue a political solution to Kashmir rather than a military one.

How hard Pakistan may try. UN and UNSC is irrelevant as far as Kashmir dispute is concerned. The reason why all UN members, the P5 including your all weather friend China only request and never demand us to resolve any issues through bilateral talks.

So yes all these resolutions or the UNMOGIP will always be there in paper with not much teeth or powers. LOL

As stated earlier, your delusions are not our problem.
The fact remains that the UN refuses to accept the Indian position.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Blood is owed and it shall we reap.

So do we think.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

If the Indians want to save the lives of Indian soldiers, they (i.e the Indian government) must pursue a political solution to Kashmir rather than a military one.



As stated earlier, your delusions are not our problem.
The fact remains that the UN refuses to accept the Indian position.

Exactly

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

So Vipin big mouth is put into shame. This Indian general is resulting in deaths of Indian soldiers most than any of his precedessors. Clearly Indian army grip on Kashmir is volatile and unrest among masses is growing every day especially after the killing of Bhurran Wani.

 

[Tshering22]

This news has been singeing me from within since morning.

44 of our soldiers have died in an ISIS-style attack.

This is a never-before seen situation.

My prayers with the families of CRPF soldiers who died.

Those 44 were were my brothers. Each of their loss is a personal loss to me and every Indian.

We need to prepare.

2500 occupiers in a single convoy - clearly they were planning something.

They weren't troops.

They are Central Reserve Police Force. Not Indian Army.

Their role is operating in tense areas and monitor public safety.

Not designed to fight wars.

 

[Tom M]

As stated earlier, your delusions are not our problem.
The fact remains that the UN refuses to accept the Indian position.

Of-Course UN had long accepted our position after simla agreement. That's why everyone including China use the term bilateral since then.

Moreover, tell me when was the last time UN entertained Pakistan's request as well ??

Your Ex NSA had failed in 2014.

United Nations ignores Pakistan bid to seek intervention on Kashmir dispute

Even IK government also seem to have failed in convening UN it seems ??

https://www.dawn.com/news/1452602

 

[American Pakistani]

Blood is owed and it shall we reap.

@Nilgiri @Vibrio @padamchen @Joe Shearer

With yet another fake strykkee...a sir ji kal strykee...lol

Pakistan will keep hunting 7 lakh Indian occupier terrorists.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Of-Course UN had long accepted our position after simla agreement. That's why everyone including China use the term bilateral since then.

Please post a single statement by any responsible UN official stating that the UN accepts the Indian position/interpretation of Simla.

Here is 'proof of rejection' from their official website:

In July 1972, India and Pakistan signed an agreement defining a Line of Control in Kashmir which, with minor deviations, followed the same course as the ceasefire line established by the Karachi Agreement in 1949. India took the position that the mandate of UNMOGIP had lapsed, since it related specifically to the ceasefire line under the Karachi Agreement. Pakistan, however, did not accept this position.

Given the disagreement between the two parties over UNMOGIP's mandate and functions, the Secretary-General's position has been that UNMOGIP could be terminated only by a decision of the Security Council....
https://unmogip.unmissions.org/background

Moreover, tell me when was the last time UN entertained Pakistan's request as well ??

The UN's reluctance to mediate has nothing to do with the Simla Agreement. The UN made no serious effort to resolve this dispute after the early 1950s. By the late 1950s, the UN was urging Pakistan and India to settle this matter "out of UN" ... Later, the USSR used "the veto" multiple times to avoid discussion on Kashmir in the Security Council. Simla Agreement was signed in 1972 only. So it's not Simla that has made the UN practically irrelevant. The U.N had already been virtually elbowed out of the Kashmir dispute by Russia. However, the Simla Agreement no doubt does give the UN a little bit of "face-saving"...

No UN Sec-Gen, or any responsible official, can say that the UN has no role to play in Kashmir after the signing of Simla agreement, or that the UN Resolutions have become invalid now, or the Simla Agreement supersedes the UN resolutions, as long as Kashmir remains on the agenda of the UN Security Council as an unresolved international dispute, and with the UN observers still present in India and Pakistan to observe ceasefire violations on the disputed border.

 

[Tom M]

Please post a single statement by any responsible UN official stating that the UN accepts the Indian position/interpretation of Simla.

Here is 'proof of rejection' from their official website:

In July 1972, India and Pakistan signed an agreement defining a Line of Control in Kashmir which, with minor deviations, followed the same course as the ceasefire line established by the Karachi Agreement in 1949. India took the position that the mandate of UNMOGIP had lapsed, since it related specifically to the ceasefire line under the Karachi Agreement. Pakistan, however, did not accept this position.

Given the disagreement between the two parties over UNMOGIP's mandate and functions, the Secretary-General's position has been that UNMOGIP could be terminated only by a decision of the Security Council....
https://unmogip.unmissions.org/background




The UN's reluctance to mediate has nothing to do with the Simla Agreement. The UN made no serious effort to resolve this dispute after the early 1950s. By the late 1950s, the UN was urging Pakistan and India to settle this matter "out of UN" ... Later, the USSR used "the veto" multiple times to avoid discussion on Kashmir in the Security Council. Simla Agreement was signed in 1972 only. So it's not Simla that has made the UN practically irrelevant. The U.N had already been virtually elbowed out of the Kashmir dispute by Russia. However, the Simla Agreement no doubt does give the UN a little bit of "face-saving"...

No UN Sec-Gen, or any responsible official, can say that the UN has no role to play in Kashmir after the signing of Simla agreement, or that the UN Resolutions have become invalid now, or the Simla Agreement supersedes the UN resolutions, as long as Kashmir remains on the agenda of the UN Security Council as an unresolved international dispute, and with the UN observers still present in India and Pakistan to observe ceasefire violations on the disputed border.

And a simple question/answer. Does that change anything?? LOL

Mark my words, UN won't because UN can't do a jack and we India will decide what to do, others can just sit back and keep on requesting (read begging) for talks.

 

[GHALIB]

Indians want drama before elections as mody is losing. Modi killed his own men for votes.

we will kill all terrorists elections or no elections .

 

[Trango Towers]

Well there is a big, big difference. NATO are alieans to the regions, with their home bases miles apart. But it is our turf, just see how it is crushed. Did IED's which entered your arena decades back force Pakistan army to loose your WOT?? If not it is the same here, rather lot more easy if GOI plan to use brute force like Zarb-e-azb etc.

Huge difference between fighting terrorists and freedom fighters. We shall see.
In the meantime you sit talking and 43 families of indian soldiers mourn. There will be mothers wives and kids involved. But i guess that doesnt matter

 

[GHALIB]

india end is near they should voluntarily withdraw from kashmir otherwise whole india will face such attacks soon

we will abolish article 370 first then people from alover india will settle in kashmir , then we will butcher all terrorists .

Huge difference between fighting terrorists and freedom fighters. We shall see.
In the meantime you sit talking and 43 families of indian soldiers mourn. There will be mothers wives and kids involved. But i guess that doesnt matter

yeah there are scores of baloch freedom fighters .

 

[Crystal-Clear]

In 2017, Iran's leader Ayatollah Khamenei said that Kashmiris are being oppressed. He also urged Muslim world to "openly support people of Kashmir and repudiate oppressors and tyrants who attacked people in Ramadan"

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...r-bogey-twice-in-two-weeks-1022519-2017-07-05

HIGHLIGHTS

• Khamenei rakes up kashmir bogey twice in two weeks
• Khamenei went on to declare Kashmir a nation and India a Zionist regime.
• Khamenei tried to barge-in an issue that India considers strictly bilateral

Probably peeved at the India's first ever prime-ministerial visit to Israel, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has raked up the Kashmir issue for the second time in two weeks. This time Khamenei has called Iran's judiciary to take up international issues to speak for Muslims of Myanmar and Kashmir.

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Deaf or blind? It is India who supports Israel, not Pakistan.

you are wasting your time . iranian mullah will do anything if you buy few gallons of oil from them .

 

[JonAsad]

we will abolish article 370 first then people from alover india will settle in kashmir , then we will butcher all terrorists .



yeah there are scores of baloch freedom fighters .

You will do sh! T, just prepare big enough grave yard for the soon to come..

 

[Tom M]

Huge difference between fighting terrorists and freedom fighters. We shall see.
In the meantime you sit talking and 43 families of indian soldiers mourn. There will be mothers wives and kids involved. But i guess that doesnt matter

Meanwhile I will pray for the safety of the kith and kin of the kids, wife's and mother's of your forces along with ours. It does matter and matter a lot. Be safe and good night.