Open Discussion : Bangladesh And Myanmar Armed Force

[tarpitz]

MBT 2000, T 72S, Type 59D, PTL 02 Assaulter and Type 84 BLT of Myanmar Army.

Mech formations of Myanmar Army

M 3 command vehicle

ULARV 3: locally designed and produced APC

 

[Aung Zaya]

Okay, now some serious questions!

*Bullet Proof Ballistic Helmet = 12,000/- taka

Ok.

*Hand to Hand communicator set = 45,000/- taka

What is that communicator? Doesn't seem to be sat phone, then walkie-talkie? That costly?

*Night Vision Devise, NVG(II) = 180,000/- taka

Ok.

*Global Positioning System or GPS(ডান হাতে মিনি স্ক্রিন মনিটর) = 168,000/- taka

168,000/- taka!!! Nowadays even a 3000 taka phone flaunts GPS! Okay, army's GPS is super-advanced, but 168,000/- taka??

*Kevler Bullet Proof vest = 188,000/- taka

Ok.

*New BD-08 Mark II assault rifle = 32,000/- taka

My god! The cheapest thing so far, and its the most important thing in any war!
Btw, how come the assault rifle is so cheap? 32,000/- Bangladeshi taka is like USD 411......!!!

*4x optical ACOG sight = 40,000/- taka

Damn! Sight is costlier than the gun!!

*Eye Protective Gear = 6,000/- taka

Ok.

*Side Weapon = 25,000/- taka.

Cheap, very cheap!

So, 700000 taka Gadget for one soldier.

Out of 700,000/- taka gear, only 65,000/- taka is for the guns!!

Yeah.. U got the point what I don't understand and want to ask to @BDforever ...
Mate..
Some are so damn cheap from regular price (especially weapons.. As of our cheapest MA series cost roughly 600$.. )
Some are so high.. ( especially equipments.. Kevlar Vest= 2441$ and GPS=about 2200$)

There is no comparison. Indian trained Rawami dalals will sabotage any war effort. So obviously Myanmar will win.

Agree.. Seriously need some Head to Head rather than random posts.. Not for offense..

 

[tarpitz]

Locally produced ULARV 1 Scout vehicles of Myanmar Army. More than 200 ULARV 1 are in service.

 

[Aung Zaya]

Locally produced ULARV 1 Scout vehicles of Myanmar Army. More than 200 ULARV 1 are in service.

Adding some specification of this..
Type -Amoured Scout Car
Weapon - twin 30mm RCWS ( Locally built with the help of SGs)
Capability - 2 crews + 4


Bro..ခန ေစာင့္ျကည့္ျကမလား.. ခုဟာက ကြ်န္ေတာ္တို့ ဘက္က ပို့စ္ေတြ မ်ားေနပီ.. သူတို့ဟာေတြ တင္ပါေစ.. ပီးမွ ဝိုင္းဖဲ့ျကတာေပါ့.. အင္ဒီရမ္း ေတြလဲ ေရာက္လာပီဆိုေတာ့... @dragunov87

 

[damiendehorn]

what is the Myanmar official defence budget, and what is its real budget? what percentage of the GDP is spent on defence?

 

[Aung Zaya]

what is the Myanmar official defence budget, and what is its real budget? what percentage of the GDP is spent on defence?

Nothing special.. Mate.. Just 2.4B $...

 

[tarpitz]

Adding some specification of this..
Type -Amoured Scout Car
Weapon - twin 30mm RCWS ( Locally built with the help of SGs)
Capability - 2 crews + 4


Bro..ခန ေစာင့္ျကည့္ျကမလား.. ခုဟာက ကြ်န္ေတာ္တို့ ဘက္က ပို့စ္ေတြ မ်ားေနပီ.. သူတို့ဟာေတြ တင္ပါေစ.. ပီးမွ ဝိုင္းဖဲ့ျကတာေပါ့.. အင္ဒီရမ္း ေတြလဲ ေရာက္လာပီဆိုေတာ့... @dragunov87

ေကာင္းေလစြ........by Enigma code..

 

[damiendehorn]

Nothing special.. Mate.. Just 2.4B $...

$2.4bn on defence from a GDP of $60bn, thats 4%. From what has been writen, Myanmar spends more on defence then health and education combined? Is that sustainable in the long run?

Bangladesh only spends roughly 1.2% of its GDP on defence or around the $2bn mark, but most of that goes on salaries and other remunerations for officers, relatively little is spent on equipment (the gov is trying to keep the generals happy so they dont overthrough them).

myanmar has done really well on just a $2.4bn budget, they either spent very little on salaries and other remunarations or the budget has been under reported. Either way i like the way your armed forces have developed the local defence industries.

 

[Aung Zaya]

$2.4bn on defence from a GDP of $60bn, thats 4%. From what has been writen, Myanmar spends more on defence then health and education combined? Is that sustainable in the long run?

Bangladesh only spends roughly 1.2% of its GDP on defence or around the $2bn mark, but most of that goes on salaries and other remunerations for officers, relatively little is spent on equipment (the gov is trying to keep the generals happy so they dont overthrough them).

myanmar has done really well on just a $2.4bn budget, they either spent very little on salaries and other remunarations or the budget has been under reported. Either way i like the way your armed forces have developed the local defence industries.

We will/can reduce the defence budget.., when we got ceased fire and talk in peace with rebels.. And most of our DI are just developing state.. When it can operate full-load , we just need to use in R&D , then defence budget will be automatically reduced.. So we will spend that amount for next a few year till we get above state while we have been tripled in health and education..

 

[Aung Zaya]

Myanmar Locally built UGV.. And will be assemble France Nexter in this year...

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Okay, now some serious questions!

*Bullet Proof Ballistic Helmet = 12,000/- taka

Ok.

*Hand to Hand communicator set = 45,000/- taka

What is that communicator? Doesn't seem to be sat phone, then walkie-talkie? That costly?

*Night Vision Devise, NVG(II) = 180,000/- taka

Ok.

*Global Positioning System or GPS(ডান হাতে মিনি স্ক্রিন মনিটর) = 168,000/- taka

168,000/- taka!!! Nowadays even a 3000 taka phone flaunts GPS! Okay, army's GPS is super-advanced, but 168,000/- taka??

*Kevler Bullet Proof vest = 188,000/- taka

Ok.

*New BD-08 Mark II assault rifle = 32,000/- taka

My god! The cheapest thing so far, and its the most important thing in any war!
Btw, how come the assault rifle is so cheap? 32,000/- Bangladeshi taka is like USD 411......!!!

*4x optical ACOG sight = 40,000/- taka

Damn! Sight is costlier than the gun!!

*Eye Protective Gear = 6,000/- taka

Ok.

*Side Weapon = 25,000/- taka.

Cheap, very cheap!

So, 700000 taka Gadget for one soldier.

Out of 700,000/- taka gear, only 65,000/- taka is for the guns!!

That's how the soldiers are today. Firearm are secondary concern over survivability and having cutting edge equipment. I mean if a fully decked Bangladeshi battalion goes up against an Indian battalion armed with only their rifle and the clothes on their back. I don't need to tell you whose going to win?

 

[dray]

That's how the soldiers are today. Firearm are secondary concern over survivability and having cutting edge equipment. I mean if a fully decked Bangladeshi battalion goes up against an Indian battalion armed with only their rifle and the clothes on their back. I don't need to tell you whose going to win?

You missed the point, some of the equipment are surprisingly costly, while some are amazingly cheap.

 

[Aung Zaya]

That's how the soldiers are today. Firearm are secondary concern over survivability and having cutting edge equipment. I mean if a fully decked Bangladeshi battalion goes up against an Indian battalion armed with only their rifle and the clothes on their back. I don't need to tell you whose going to win?

I think he just want to point out some are so expansive than he think while some so cheaper than he do.. In weaponry the better , the more expansive .. The best gadget without reliable weapons like a defender with no attack while the best weapons without any gadgets is like an vulnerable attacker.. So it need to be balance.. Just my thought..

 

[BDforever]

Navy seals (SEALs) from Bangladesh – SWADS

Special unit for military diving and rescue (SWADS) is an elite special force unit of Bangladesh Navy. Special unit for military and rescue diving is specially organized an elite team of top professionals that are trained and equipped by the model of the U.S. Navy SEALs and UDT SEALs from Republic of Korea. At the beginning of the core consisted of members who were trained UDT SEALs Republic of Korea. This included officers and other ranks trained in the Republic of Korea (South Korea). The team is composed of finest members from the military who are serving in Bangladesh but also all over the world in UN peacekeeping missions.




History
The brigade was formed in the 1970s and has not only adopted the technique Navy SEALs U.S. but also Korean. SWADS, as they are called, is considered to offer one of the most advanced and best training programs in the world with weapons.

The selection process for SWADS

SWADS operatives are recruited from the Navy and allied services. Those who are great in the Navy, and who are considered capable of this special branch of service being proposed by their leaders to try in the selection process for SWADS.

SWADS specialization
SWADS teams are well trained to perform a variety of missions including hostage rescue, anti piracy, counterintelligence missions, anti narcotics, fight terrorism, covert insertion and extraction behind enemy lines, to collection of intelligence and underwater actions. SWADS-and the divisions in the Bangladesh Navy.
The SWADS teams are well equipped to take on several different types of challenging missions including hostage rescue, anti piracy, Counterinsurgency, counter narcotics, counterterrorism, covert Insertions and extractions, intelligence gathering raids and underwater demolition. SWADS are a division of the Navy in Bangladesh.

Famous Missions
SWADS missions are the local regional and global in nature. In addition to the name of the Bangladesh Navy Special Forces is that they have to be good in the operations on the ground, it’s also SWADS can. During national crisis, they are called to preserve peace, and to rescue the state of natural disaster. Currently, their mission is a domestic nature.However, during the global konfliakta or terrorist threats, they become sought special unit because of its good adaptation terrestrial and maritime operations.

SWADS organization’s
SWADS’s are professional soldiers are recruited from the Bangladesh Navy. Special unit for military diving and rescue (SWADS) is a well-organized, trained and trained units. They are comprised of one group in the unit. Other information about the individual units are secret, the size of the entire unit some data around 1000 members of their command center is located in the city of Chittagong as well.

Duties SWADS’s
SWADS teams are employed within Bangladesh and abroad. Their missions include, but are not limited to: teams are employed both inside Bangladesh as well as overseas. Their missions are including but not limited to:

• Anti-piracy operations
• Kontraobavještjane action
• Counter narcotics operations
• Of terror operations
• Insertion and leaving behind enemy lines
• Rescuing Hostages
• Various scouting
• Collection INTEL and that intelligence
• Raids
• Underwater action

Training
Instructors SWADS’s addition to the home include instructors from the Republic of Korea, Turkey and the United States with their similar units.

Weaponry and Equipment
Range weapons for use by members SWADS’s is huge. SWADS members are not only trained to handle all types of combat weapons, but also used ballistic helmets with night optics, and underwater video equipment. One fact that makes SWADS’s unique is that they can operate in water, under water and in the air.

Some of the weapons that are used SWADS include COLT M4 Carbine SOPMOD, Daewoo K2 5.56mm assault rifle, HK MP5 9mm machine guns , sniper rifles, pistols poluatutomatski, HK M-416. A4 M16, MK19. SWADS-handling and generally speaking with more weapons than any other unit in the world. Their weapons are listed below:

Specialized weapons, night-vision devices , bulletproof vests , diving equipment and vehicles that allow SWADS-have to complete your mission. Typical SWADS operative can be armed with:

• 9mm semiautomatic pistol
• Daewoo Precision Industries K5 semiautomatic pistol
• Daewoo Precision Industries K7 machine
• HK MP5 9mm guns
• BD-08 assault rifle
• Daewoo K2 assault rifle 5:56
• M-16 A4
• Colt M4 Carbine SOPMOD
• HK M-416
• M24 sniper rifle
• Accuracy International AS50
• MK 19
• M249
  
  source: Navy seals (SEALs) from Bangladesh - SWADS - special-ops.org | Elite magazine for elite warriors!

@Aung Zaya @dragunov87

Special forces of Bangladesh:

Bangladesh Army--------------------

**President Guard Regiment, presidential andVVIP security.
**Special Security Force, specops, VVIP security.
**Para Commandos (1,2,3 Para Commando Battalion) Six missions are.. DA, SR, UW, COIN, CT,MOOTW.
**SNIC -**Black Eagle Battalion sniper,HTI etcArmour/material Sniping, Long range precision sniping both AP/ AMR ...detail not yet emerged.
**Special Services Wing, details classified.

Bangladesh Air-force------------------------

**Ground force of BAF ( special force on the rise)

Bangladesh Navy---------------------

**Special Warfare Diving and Salvage, NavalSpecial Force. Consist of SEAL, UDT and Salvage,Special boat guys.
**ODD 71, details classified (possiblySubmarine launched Demolition Divers)
Border Guards Bangladesh-------------------------------

**SPEGUARDS, Special Guards (BGB's)- Nightcapable Surveillance and Special Sniper Platoons.

Bangladesh Police---------------------
**RAB, Rapid Action Battalion. An anti terroristspecial police unit under Home ministry.
**SWAT, Special Weapon and Tactics. Specialized in law enforcement interdiction.

@Aung Zaya @dragunov87

( intellegence agencies excluded)

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

You missed the point, some of the equipment are surprisingly costly, while some are amazingly cheap.

Price gauging, seriously?

I think he just want to point out some are so expansive than he think while some so cheaper than he do.. In weaponry the better , the more expansive .. The best gadget without reliable weapons like a defender with no attack while the best weapons without any gadgets is like an vulnerable attacker.. So it need to be balance.. Just my thought..

Weapons are secondary concern, you can use WW2 guns on a modern infantry gears and it will still more or less have the same capability (of course having no ability to mount accessories will be a huge bummer), but if the reverse were to happen then you might as well point that fancy gun in your face.