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Singapore is the model,Taiwan is not!

Taiwanese talk shows are complete boll0cks!

Have been to Taiwan twice,1st time in early 2000,2nd time in 2010.

Have to say that I don't even like Taiwanese snacks which are supposedly one of the major attractions for visitors from the Mainland。

Singapore is not the model. Far from Confucianism.

It's a country based on Rule of Law, Legalism. They just look good because they are rich. People are look good and well-cared because they are self-sufficient, hardworking and save a lot of money. Not because of good government welfare system.

The only Confucianism thing about Singapore, is the traditional society.
 
Both CCP and KMT are to be blamed for this,they were so concerned about fighting for power and contral of China and let foreign powers take advantage of the civil war.

That is correct. The last 150 years of China history, was the history of stupidity.
 
If the DPP drops its independence bid then there can be a more flexible stance, both the mainland and Taipei are divided by ideology noting more. My grandfather was a KMT follower fought the Japanese on behalf of that he defected to the the communists in 1945 after the Japanese defeat.

Both CCP and KMT are to be blamed for this,they were so concerned about fighting for power and contral of China and let foreign powers take advantage of the civil war.

The blame goes to both sides indeed, we should fulfill the wish of Dr. Sun.
 
If the DPP drops its independence bid then there can be a more flexible stance, both the mainland and Taipei are divided by ideology noting more. My grandfather was a KMT follower fought the Japanese on behalf of that he defected to the the communists in 1945 after the Japanese defeat.



The blame goes to both sides indeed, we should fulfill the wish of Dr. Sun.

meh the "blame" can go back much farther, maybe the qing losing all that land and wars, perhaps the ming with the turning inwards and all, or maybe the song for being militarily weak and unable to jump start a industrial revolution, whatever it is, its in the past, that said the land that is gone(as in settled in negotiations)...is gone maybe in the future itll come back but dont count on it and work with what u have.
 
You could say the last Dynasty rulers were to be blamed for being backward and arrogant. This led to the many foreign invasions and eventually the downfall of the Imperial rule. From there on we lost plenty of lives due to the civil wars and the Japanese invasions. Treasures were looted from China and we lost some land as well. Both KMT and CPC made mistakes, Mao and Chiang had their shares of bad policies and the result is what see today. Sun certainly didn't had this in mind a separate mainland and island. Maybe in the future we are wise enough to reunite.
 
Both CCP and KMT are to be blamed for this,they were so concerned about fighting for power and contral of China and let foreign powers take advantage of the civil war.

Considering the state China was after the collpase of the Qing Dynasty and the civil war that followed and than the war against Japan, China emearged pretty much intact. If you look back to the QIN dynasty China today is much bigger than it was except for the Yuan and Qing dynasty.
 
taiwanese society and political system can be a pretty good model for mainland's transition.
however I wont go as far as Ma's proclamation

Good?I don't wanna see the politicians fight in council for the interest of themself.........

Singapore is the model,Taiwan is not!

Taiwanese talk shows are complete boll0cks!

Have been to Taiwan twice,1st time in early 2000,2nd time in 2010.

Have to say that I don't even like Taiwanese snacks which are supposedly one of the major attractions for visitors from the Mainland。

Singapore is Leegapore
 
CCP is the traitor of all Chinese people, who lick Russian *** and sold our land. :hitwall:

我英語還不夠說歷史的事,爲了你看起來方便我就用繁體跟你說吧,看歷史正史要看,野史也要看,你不能看到國民黨的反共歷史宣傳就堅信不疑,當初被蘇聯美國逼著簽下認同蒙古獨立的可是中正先生,我可以理解他的苦衷,我也很敬佩他作為一個國家領導人的覺悟。但是歷史就是歷史,我實在不希望各位被一面之詞就給忽悠了。
 
Mainland China still need to prove himself. There are big distrust and fear among Taiwanese.

Could you understand that the fear among Taiwanese is a kind of prejudice?
May there be many mistakes in the history of PRC,but why these Taiwanese are still sleeping in their great daydream?I think they need to see it by themself instead of achieving information from the immoral media.
 
我英語還不夠說歷史的事,爲了你看起來方便我就用繁體跟你說吧,看歷史正史要看,野史也要看,你不能看到國民黨的反共歷史宣傳就堅信不疑,當初被蘇聯美國逼著簽下認同蒙古獨立的可是中正先生,我可以理解他的苦衷,我也很敬佩他作為一個國家領導人的覺悟。但是歷史就是歷史,我實在不希望各位被一面之詞就給忽悠了。

Both KMT and CCP were equally stupid. A man like Mao Zedong was necessary, to bring unity and order. Order and unity is achieved, communism is already gone. Everything is in the past now, it's right, we should move on.


Could you understand that the fear among Taiwanese is a kind of prejudice?
May there be many mistakes in the history of PRC,but why these Taiwanese are still sleeping in their great daydream?I think they need to see it by themself instead of achieving information from the immoral media.

PRC is still poor, a lot of problem there. You still need another 20-30 years to improve and prove yourself. You do it great, serve the people right, you will not only win the heart of Taiwan people, but also the rest of the world.

It's true that Taiwan media is controlled by CIA, to make sure we broadcast the news according to US narrative.
 

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