Ongoing Systematic Massacre of Muslim Rohingas in Myanmar

[Trishula]

China can end this by calling UN security council meeeing but they wont

 

[alaungphaya]

Once again, unconfirmed article without any links citing some fellow called "Nurul Islam, A Human Rights Activist" Then the usual India-Bangladesh-China-Pak clusterfck. Kayin state is not under martial law, there is no press blackout. Why don't journalists go and report on these great injustices that seem to be occurring?

 

[KS]

Arakan is not a country; Burma is.

International relations of this nature are conducted between sovereign nations, not provinces.

Arakan is the state which has a problem and from which refugees are coming. So unless that was bordering India we have no stake in it and its in our better interest not to interfere especially when we need Myanmarese co=op for action on the militants. But then you already would be knowing it and just taking it out on India wanting to paint us as anti-Islam for some unknown reason.

Sorry, that's part of the job description for being a 'leader'. If you are not up to the job, no harm admitting it.

We only look out for our interests. Take it in whatever way you want.

Most of us knew of India's hypocrisy anyway.

So the underlying point is, you came into the thread with a set mind and arguing just to prove it right. I guessed as much. You just want to vent the anti-India feelings some way or other.

Once again, anything man made can be changed by man. It may take a violent revolution in the extreme case, but it can be changed.

A violent revolution and killing can also change the Quran an convert every single muslim in the world. But that is not what it is right ? It is what can be done lawfully an lawfully the position of India as a secular state cannot be changed.

The OIC is known to be irrelevant, although it has called for UN intervention. Where is the debate?

Oh that I know. I'm just saying there is a chance to change that thing and make it actually relevant.

And other thing is nice try shifting the goal post from Indian intervenion due to the demands of Indian muslims to UN intervention. Man, you are something.

LOL, we are going to call a UNSC meeting just because some Internet Hindus are upset.

No. Its the internet muslims like Developero who are upset and want a UN intervention. I hope you can do that for Pakistan sake. We Indians are ok with treating Myanmar as its internal issue.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Not true mate. None of the Indians have justified the killings. I think you are mistaken, let me reiterate--

"We neither justify these riots nor the killings!!"

Well ! then why don't you act equally or normally as you act when anything happens with minority in Pakistan or in China. we seen indian members on other threads where they try to some what like saviour of humanity even on a mini issues, but here where Rohingyas are being targeted repeatedly you are trying not to be harsh on it.

 

[4 2 0]

bastard king of burma and the bastard rulers of burma,,,shame on them

 

[scorpionx]

@Trishula
As an Indian, I request you to refrain from derogatory remarks.Off topic rants like these are really irritating.

 

[Kompromat]

All news regarding Rohingas must be posted in this sticky thread from now on.

 

[Developereo]

Everybody, please log out and chill for a couple of hours.

 

[Kompromat]

72 posts had to be deleted, 3 banned. Troll and receive a permanent ban !

 

[Black Widow]

OMG, I saw the last page, Look like some riot happen on PDF... Oops! I miss the riot...

 

[Kompromat]

OMG, I saw the last page, Look like some riot happen on PDF... Oops! I miss the riot...

You missed the pink tag too.

 

[MilSpec]

OT : This is the first time I am saying it ...great Job Aeronaut

 

[Spring Onion]

28 October 2012 Last updated at 08:12 GMT
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Burma violence: 20,000 displaced in Rakhine state



More than 22,000 people have been displaced by violence in Burma's Rakhine state, mostly from the Muslim Rohingya minority, the government says.
UN officials who joined a government tour said many of the displaced, who are in squalid camps, boats, or on islands or hilltops, needed urgent aid.

More than 4,600 houses have been burnt.

Earlier Burma acknowledged more than 80 people had been killed and whole villages destroyed in violence between ethnic Rakhine Buddhists and Rohingyas.

The total number displaced since clashes broke out between the two groups in June is now 100,000.

There is long-standing tension between ethnic Rakhine people, who make up the majority of the state's population, and Muslims, many of whom are Rohingya and are stateless.

The Burmese authorities regard the Rohingya as illegal immigrants and correspondents say there is widespread public hostility to them.

'Major challenge'

A UN team was allowed to accompany government officials on a tour of the affected areas of Rakhine state on Saturday.

The UN's Burma humanitarian chief, Ashok Nigam, said government had given estimates of 22,587 people displaced in the latest wave of violence, but he added there could be "additional numbers".

Groups campaigning for the rights of Rohingyas say some of those who fled by boat have died at sea.

Getting aid to the displaced would be a major challenge, Mr Nigam said, adding that 21,700 of them were Muslims.

"The situation is certainly very grave and we are working with the government to provide urgent aid to these people," he said.

Burmese President Thein Sein on Saturday acknowledged mass destruction in the region, with whole villages and parts of towns burnt down, and announced tighter security.

Satellite pictures by Human Rights Watch show hundreds of buildings destroyed in the coastal town of Kyaukpyu alone.

A local reporter who visited the site told the BBC's Burmese service the area had been completely destroyed, with some buildings still smouldering.

In one district, with a population of some 3,000, only burnt out poles from the houses and charred stubs of trees were to be seen.

The government has declared a curfew in the affected areas, but its response since the violence first broke out is being widely criticised as inadequate, says the BBC's Jonathan Head in Bangkok.

On Friday six towns were hit by clashes and a night-time curfew is in place in several locations including Min Bya and Mrauk Oo where the latest spate of violence began.

It is unclear what prompted the latest clashes. The Rakhine Buddhists and Muslims, believed to be mainly Rohingya, blame each other for the violence.

BBC News - Burma violence: 20,000 displaced in Rakhine state

 

[kumarkumar1867]

ASEAN chief: Rohingya issue could destabilize the region | The Jakarta Post

Yohanna Ririhena, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | World | Tue, October 30 2012, 10:07 AM

ASEAN Secretary-General Surin Pitsuwan urges the international community to take a more effective stance and faster pace in helping settle Myanmar’s Rohingya problem, since the conflict poses strategic and security challenges that could destabilize Southeast Asia.

“They are now under tremendous pressure, pain and suffering. If the international community, including ASEAN, are not able to relieve that pressure and pain, conceivably, [the 1.5 million of Rohingyas] could become radicalized and the entire region could be destabilized, including the Malacca Straits,” Surin said in Jakarta on Monday.

If they became radicalized, he said, the area risked becoming a zone of violence that could damage cooperation in ASEAN and East Asia. “I think it has wider strategic and security implications.”

He also saw potential dangers for the major sea-lane of the Malacca Straits. The area serves as the main shipping channel between the Indian and Pacific Oceans, linking major Asian economies such as India, China, Japan and South Korea.

Myanmar’s government said on Monday it had boosted security in the western state hit by ethnic unrest as the number of displaced rose to 28,000, most of whom were Muslims.

The latest violence between ethnic Rohingya Muslims and Rakhine Buddhists, which began Oct. 21, killed at least 84 people and injured 129 more, according to Myanmar’s government. Human rights groups believe the true toll could be far higher.

When asked about concrete ways ASEAN could prevent a worsening of the situation, Surin urged ASEAN to engage in humanitarian efforts, as had been done when Myanmar was hit by cyclone Nargis in 2008. “I think ASEAN is in the position to repeat what we had done in cyclone Nargis, that was humanitarian engagement — relieve them from the suffering.”

He also noted that help and support to relieve people from poverty, dislocation, displacement, should be extended to all sides, the Rohingya and the Rakhine people. “Let’s see what we can do to relieve them from poverty, shortages of food, shelter and sanitation.”

Matters regarding security, political, human rights and democracy issues, Surin said, would be the work of the government in Myanmar and the relevant international agencies.

Surin also underlined that the Rohingya problem was not a religious conflict between Muslim and Buddhist. “It is strategic and security issue. We have to be extremely careful.”

Rakhine state spokesman Myo Thant said that security had been stepped up in the state, with additional police and soldiers deployed, but he declined to give details.

The UN Development Program’s resident representative director in Myanmar, Ashok Nigam, said the figure of 28,000 displaced people was likely to rise because some who had fled along the coast by boat had yet to be counted.

An estimated 27,300 of those displaced were Muslims, Nigam said, adding that the UN figure was based on statistics from local authorities.

Human Rights Watch has said that the Rohingyas have suffered the brunt of the latest violence.

Tensions have simmered in the region since clashes first broke out in June, displacing 75,000 people — also mostly Muslims.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Thanks for creating one thread Aerornaut. Having scores of threads, on the same topic, many of them based on some ''nurul islam's telephonic update'' was very difficult to follow.

And it may be too much to ask the BD posters, but can they not post from 'Í heard from Nurul' sources pls.