Ola Electric sells ₹1,100 cr e-scooters in two-day sale

[Han Patriot]

WTF are you on about? That plant is operational.

The batteries and components are made in China, its basically a assembly plant.

 

[Han Patriot]

WTF are you on about? That plant is operational.

No its not.

 

[Cheepek]

The batteries and components are made in China, its basically a assembly plant.

Ola imports cells from SK, and not China.

 

[Han Patriot]

Ola imports cells from SK, and not China.

Bhai, SK are made using Chinese components, Samsung have a huge plant in China.

 

[Cheepek]

Bhai, SK are made using Chinese components, Samsung have a huge plant in China.

Behen, Samsung plant in China is not the only plant in the whole world... And Samsung is not the only company that can offer cells.
Wtf does "Chinese components" in a battery cell even mean? Yeah, raw materials?

 

[Han Patriot]

Behen, Samsung plant in China is not the only plant in the whole world... And Samsung is not the only company that can offer cells.
Wtf does "Chinese components" in a battery cell even mean? Yeah, raw materials?

Apparently you do not know how complex is the processing of lithium batteries are, Chinese companies produce the chemicals electrodes and specialised polymers to most of the world's battery manufacturers, alot of these processes are patented, lithium comes from Australia ans Chile btw the technology is in the process. Why do you think until today India imports and only 3 countries dominate this sector? Lol

 

[Cheepek]

Apparently you do not know how complex is the processing of lithium batteries are, Chinese companies produce the chemicals electrodes and specialised polymers to most of the world's battery manufacturers, alot of these processes are patented, lithium comes from Australia ans Chile btw the technology is in the process. Why do you think until today India imports and only 3 countries dominate this sector? Lol

+Which 3 countries dominate "this sector"?

 

[Surya 1]

Which is why I said to move to moon and start a colony with your ideologies. I am pretty sure people in this colony will be goats not humans. Communism is for goats which expect all people to adhere to such stupidity all in the name of betterment. People are not goats, each of them are inherently selfish, we just need to create policies that will cater to such selfishness and yet provide for society aka. Capitalism.

Communism wants people to become goats with no character of their own. So next time you bring in your stupidity, leave me out. I am not interested.

He is a great combo of Islam, communism and pseudo liberal whose mind is hyperactive in finding ill negativity out of any positive news or information.

 

[jamahir]

He is a great combo of Islam, communism and pseudo liberal whose mind is hyperactive in finding ill negativity out of any positive news or information.

Since you didn't bother to reply to my post# 8 I will repost it here :

On PDF I have often suggested, not only for India but also for the world, that all privately-owned personal transport vehicles ( cars and two-wheelers ) must be banned and the intra-city public transport be made only through mass transport ( buses ) and taxis. Imagine how many accidents, crime and how much pollution and general chaos will be eliminated from India. And this at immediate level. The secondary effect will be elimination of those aforementioned effects through drastically reduced factory production of those vehicles. This must also be done for the other two most polluting countries - China and USA. This would be the real commitment of governments and countries towards "Sustainable development" goals that they regularly declare at international forums including the UNO.

I am not the only one talking about this. A planned city in Saudia called NEOM and a planned district of Shenzhen city ( China ) called Net City will also eliminate cars.

Did I say anything wrong ?

He is a great combo of Islam, communism

I will quote a section from a 2016 thread of mine whose OP is an article by the Pakistani journalist Nadeem Paracha about modern Socialist and Communist activism among Muslims since the early 1900s :

During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

Modern Muslims need to understand this scholar's finding from a hundred years ago and reject the misinformed and misguided people like from Tablighi Jamaat and look towards a future - say 15 years from now - where Islam and Communism meld.

 

[jamahir]

The thread's a bit old but it sounds like Ola Electric had an incredible two-day sale! It's impressive that they were able to sell over ₹1,100 crore worth of electric scooters in such a short period of time. It's no surprise that Ola is quickly becoming a major player in the electric scooter market, especially with the launch of their S1 and S1 Pro models. It's great to see the growth of electric two-wheelers in India, as it helps to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels and decrease pollution. I'm sure the Best Electric Scooter for Adults is on many people's wish lists now after hearing about Ola's success. I can't wait to see what will become of electric scooter industry as a whole in the future.

Future of electric scooter industry ? Ola may laga shola :

 

[Skull and Bones]

Future of electric scooter industry ? Ola may laga shola

Yes, that's the issue with the electrodes, which forms dendrites and shorts the cathode/Anode. Not an Ola specific issue.

Samsung smartphone batteries keep swelling and exploding

Samsung didn't learn from its mistakes with the Galaxy Note 7, its smartphone batteries keep swelling and exploding.

www.gizchina.com

 

[jamahir]

Yes, that's the issue with the electrodes, which forms dendrites and shorts the cathode/Anode. Not an Ola specific issue.

Samsung smartphone batteries keep swelling and exploding

Samsung didn't learn from its mistakes with the Galaxy Note 7, its smartphone batteries keep swelling and exploding.

www.gizchina.com

I read the article and I know that it's not an Ola-specific issue. I was doing word play.

Thank you for explaining what happens with those explosives. So I take it that the problem is use of lithium-ion as the charge storer thus there must be alternatives found. One I know is zinc-ion which has some advantages over li-ion but there are some issues with this technology written at the bottom of the article which you can clear so that I can use zinc-ion in my soon-to-come company's wearable computer product. I will share a reasonable fee with you for your consultation after the sales happen :

Zinc-ion battery for residential applications​

Developed by Canadian start-up Salient Energy, the zinc-ion battery has a rated capacity of 60 Ah, a nominal voltage of 1.3 V, and a volumetric energy density of 100 Wh/L. The device measures 26cmx24cmx1.2cm and weighs in at 1.3 kg

APRIL 21, 2022 EMILIANO BELLINI

The batteries are currently manufactured in Canada.
Image: Salient Energy

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Canada-based Salient Energy has developed a zinc-ion battery for stationary energy storage in residential applications.​

“The batteries are currently manufactured at our facility in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada, with a capacity of 100 batteries per month,” the company's CEO, Ryan Brown, told pv magazine. “Currently, we are in the process of ramping up production at this same facility to the pilot scale to support pilot projects in the residential space. We are also developing our first gigafactory plant design, which will be located in the USA or Canada.”

According to the manufacturer, its zinc-ion battery acts the same way as existing lithium-ion storage systems. “The battery can respond almost instantaneously to store or deliver clean power as needed. Since it has similar power capabilities to Li-ion, it is also well-suited for short-duration storage, which is a term for energy storage systems that can completely charge or discharge in just a few hours,” Brown explained.

“Generally, zinc-ion energy storage systems function the same as lithium-ion, with the important differences between the two being in cost, safety, and supply chain abundance as opposed to performance. Additionally, its water-based chemistry eliminates the risk of fire, making it a safe alternative to existing systems.”

The battery measures 26cmx24cmx1.2cm and weighs in at 1.3 kg. Its rated capacity is 60 Ah and the nominal voltage is 1.3 V. The volumetric energy density is 100 Wh/L and the gravimetric energy density is 60 Wh/kg. The shelf life for two weeks is 100% and that for six months is 95%.

“Our initial focus is on the residential market, specifically starting with targeting homebuilders who are developing net-zero homes and communities,” Brown continued. “We are starting with residential because of how important safety is to this market – we know that our zero fire-risk systems will greatly simplify installation and peace of mind to homeowners. We plan on expanding from residential into industrial energy storage and utility scale systems built for the grid.”

Zinc-ion has lagged behind other storage technologies due to challenges in controlling side reactions that both limit reversible charging at the anode and cause the cathode to fall apart. Zinc-ion, however, still has the potential for good energy storage performance out of cheap, abundant materials.

According to a recent study from the University of Bremen in Germany, the two main hurdles that must be overcome for zinc-ion batteries in future research are the increase of the specific energy of the full Zn-ion cell and the prevention of the parasitic hydrogen evolution reaction occurring during the Zn electrodeposition step.

 

[Skull and Bones]

I read the article and I know that it's not an Ola-specific issue. I was doing word play.

Thank you for explaining what happens with those explosives. So I take it that the problem is use of lithium-ion as the charge storer thus there must be alternatives found. One I know is zinc-ion which has some advantages over li-ion but there are some issues with this technology written at the bottom of the article which you can clear so that I can use zinc-ion in my soon-to-come company's wearable computer product. I will share a reasonable fee with you for your consultation after the sales happen :

The Parasitic hydrogen evolution evolution reaction seems to a manufacturing issue while electrodepositing Zinc on cathode. I will have to read more to understand how it effects the battery.

More apparent disadvantage seems to lower life cycle (read charge discharge cycle) and Energy density.

 

[pikkuboss]

The Parasitic hydrogen evolution evolution reaction seems to a manufacturing issue while electrodepositing Zinc on cathode. I will have to read more to understand how it effects the battery.

More apparent disadvantage seems to lower life cycle (read charge discharge cycle) and Energy density.

A breakthrough will come for sure. Lithium ion isn't the future. Europe is on the verge of energy crysis, they would figure something out. I hope our domestic companies are keeping up with the R&D in this field. Govt is betting big on Hydrogen for Heavy vehicles and industrial use and Battery Electric for Light Vehicles.

 

[Skull and Bones]

A breakthrough will come for sure. Lithium ion isn't the future. Europe is on the verge of energy crysis, they would figure something out. I hope our domestic companies are keeping up with the R&D in this field. Govt is betting big on Hydrogen for Heavy vehicles and industrial use and Battery Electric for Light Vehicles.

Hydrogen sounds good theoretically, but there will be challenges in the supply chain. If I had been in decision making position, I’d have ventured towards ethanol based fuel cells for motor vehicles.