Now, China makes incursion in Uttarakhand

[hack]

Fair enough, but Indian have been saying this about Pakistan from day one - the gap between Pakistan and India is getting bigger, but India has to service 10 times the number of people Pakistan does, in other words, India has to earn 10 times more just to be at par with Pakistan.

But of course Pakistan is not what you are raising 2 new mountain divisions for, is it?

While you focus on Pakistan, a problem brews for you in the East, you switch your focus there, and a problem pops up in the south, you turn there only to find a much bigger problem in the North and when someone suggests that you may want to rethink, you bluster and beat your chests -- perfect, got you just where you need to be, engaged in the peripheral.

Am I getting through to you? -- Is there some special training you Indians get, which says that you must be uppity when someone is making sense to you?

I don't know why you have responded to me.I was just explaining to the other poster that once you give territorial concession due to fear then it will never stop.

As for India,she is not in any mortal peril...the economy is buzzing along nicely.And everything else including miltiary power will grow with that.India wasted 40 years after independence..atleast now she has started moving.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

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Do you realize exactly how much stronger China is compared to India? Let me tell you, the gap is huge, and it is getting wider.

India cannot fight a sustained conflict with China. India has to import nearly all her weapons for starters. Once China thinks she is strong enough, nothing will stop her from invading and taking over the territories. Better to be pragmatic and sue for peace before it is too late.

We have an option - we can either stand steadfast for our country or let anyone come and roll us over.

Once it starts, you think it will stop at Arunachal? You think they're going to say thank you, goodbye?

Yes we are not as powerful as China. But we can make the price of victory so steep that it would become Pyrrhic.

Have you heard of danegeld?

Here's part of a poem by Kipling. The sentiments on geo- politics he expressed haven't changed more than a hundred years after he wrote it.

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that pays it is lost!"

 

[SalmanNadeem]

Am I getting through to you? -- Is there some special training you Indians get, which says that you must be uppity when someone is making sense to you?

The only problem with India is her lack of strategic thinking. Indian foreign policy is mostly reactionary, thanks to a very weak tradition of planning and implementation.

Fortunately, India's neighbors cannot even claim that much. Pakistan's "foreign policy" is a complete, unmitigated, disaster. A source of much suffering and violence.

 

[hack]

Even the US does not even dare to engage in a war with the PLA. Because PLA though very weaker than US army has the capability to cause enough damage to the US army. PLA can shoot down US satellites and without satellites US army is weaker than PLA.

I think you have no idea about the military power of PLA.

And US will not get involved in any China-India military conflict. Because US involvement will mean a third world war. Dont expect that even in your day dreams.

You really have no idea about the extent of the American military power do you? Just the American Navy can overwhelm anything China can throw out....China can never sustain a war against the US.

US military has more of everything compared to what China has and of much higher quality except the no of solders.

 

[King Julien]

Will they make efforts to expand and deepen the economic and trade ties between China and India or opt for aggression?

 

[quriosity]

In the Sino-Vietnam war China decided to teach Vietnam a lesson just to show the pro-Soviet Vietnamese that their friend Soviet would not dare to declare a war on China even if China declares a war against the client / proxy state Vietnam. China unilaterally declared ceasefire and by the war China diminished the possibility of two fronts war.

Dont forget it was China for whom Vietnam was able to win over the technologically far superior US forces. It was China for whom US could not invade North Korea in the Korean war.

So any war with China out of over estimation (as Nehru did) or over confidence will bring nothing but disaster. S M Krishna knows that.

 

[quriosity]

..China can never sustain a war against the US.

Vice versa.

US military has more of everything compared to what China has and of much higher quality except the no of solders.

US can win a battle against China outside the Chinese territory, but can never win a war against China inside the Chinese territory. US knows that. They are educated people.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

You really have no idea about the extent of the American military power do you? Just the American Navy can overwhelm anything China can throw out....China can never sustain a war against the US.

US military has more of everything compared to what China has and of much higher quality except the no of solders.

Then please explain how a tiny country of 20+ million that suffered decades of bombings (Gulf War 1 & 2) and debilitating sanctions BEFORE the invasion can repel the US? Same for Afghanistan, a even smaller and more "primitive" country does the same?

 

[muse]

You really have no idea about the extent of the American military power do you?

The American are enthused to fighting the Chinese for the Indian?? What planet is this on?

 

[quriosity]

Then please explain how a tiny country of 20+ million that suffered decades of bombings (Gulf War 1 & 2) BEFORE the invasion can repel the US? Same for Afghanistan, a even smaller and more "primitive" country does the same?

That is what i wanted to tell.

And with China? US will think thousands of times before deciding. And any war with China will also invite Russia.

 

[Comet]

Why don't India take a few soldiers out of Kashmir and put them at India-China border... Save them money

 

[Spring Onion]

Better safe than sorry indeed. But India is no match for China. It is better to recognize the fact - like Pakistan did - and give up the territory claimed by them as well as Dalai Lama.

Similarly, India's neighbors should stop fooling their stupid masses with propaganda and try to accomodate India's interests instead of constantly antagonizing her with terrorist activities.

India is no match for China ???

I think China's neighbors should stop fooling their stupid masses with propaganda and try to accomodate China's interests instead of constantly antagonizing her with parnoid hysteria.

 

[hack]

The American are enthused to fighting the Chinese for the Indian?? What planet is this on?

when did I say that.. why will Americans fight for India?

 

[ISRO2]

This is a very prickly India, a very different india, muscular india, Bring it on India -- I wonder if this the way to go, India may have friends far away, in it's immediate neighborhood, it has not a single friend - why is that?

India must be a member of UNSC, it must be a great economic power, a great cultural power -- exactly how are those ambitions served by being at odds with each and every one of it's immediate neighbors??

Hostile towards China, Hostile towards Pakistan, hostile to bangladesh, Hostile to Lanka - North, South, East and West -- and confident that it can take on all - interesting.

Could it be that indian diplomacy is not being as successful as it needs to be?

Sir do you really believe that shri lanka, bangladesh, nepal and myanmar india's enemy? Sir thats a sweet dream for your country. People rulling bangladesh are indian puppets. Only bangladesh army apposite to us as they even attacked its own democratic bosses and then surrended fearing they might get killed by pro indian bangladesh army who obeys democrasy. About shri lanka. Sir LTTE dead purely because of shri lanka army and chinese weapons? That a foolish dream. if india not gave nod shri lanka aint got strength to attack LTTE. it was india who gave go ahead nod after knowing links between LTTE and Pakistans terrorist group Lashkar. india not came in open because tamil people from south india wud create problem in india. Later on shri lanka admitted in low voice that they got big support from india specially by our indian navy. Just google it and see the result. Now about nepal. Sir have u heard nepalist army? They indian side. Have u heard moist? in short terrorist from jungle? They pro chinese ok sir? Nepal said already that india will always be their bestfriend and nothing china can do about it. Now myanmar. Sir 3 days ago myanmar said they wont give coco island to china to put india in trouble. Thats after our navy got angry. Myanmar respects india as we too give them aid. Our enemy is china and pakistan. Sir for ur information i would like to advice u that improve good ties with afghanistan. Once they have their own Air force then pakistans real test would began. Now pakistan should leave comparing it self with india. Pakistan should now start comparing with afghanistan as they would be real compitetor of pakistan sir.

 

[hack]

Then please explain how a tiny country of 20+ million that suffered decades of bombings (Gulf War 1 & 2) and debilitating sanctions BEFORE the invasion can repel the US? Same for Afghanistan, a even smaller and more "primitive" country does the same?

America easily beat Iraq and Afghanistan but there are problems holding the ground because America is bound by laws which don't allow wholesale massacres.

America can firebomb or nuke Iraq and Afghanistan and finish the war tomorrow.But Americans laws and moral code do not allow that hence the war continues.