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But for PAF Mirage IIIs and Vs, its better to phase out non-Rose ones and convert them into spares for the Rose Upgraded Mirage IIIs and Vs. Also, buy MirageVs from Egypt as spares to support the current fleet. In the mean time PAF needs to negotiate for SU-35s or J-31s.
 
Moscow: Pakistan and Russia are in talks about the delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and previously agreed upon delivery of Mi-35M helicopters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (FM) Sergei Ryabkov said, Sputnik reported.

Earlier this year, a draft contract for the delivery of four Mi-35M 'Hind E' combat helicopters was sent to Pakistan from Russia, a source in the Russian military and technical cooperation was quoted by the Russian news agency TASS. Increasing military cooperation between Islamabad and Moscow would not negatively impact Russia's ties with India, Ryabkov said, adding that Pak-Russia ties were improving in other sectors as well, including energy.

The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia's closest partner and said, "I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides."

The twin-engine Sukhoi-35 is a fourth generation multi-role combat jet which also incorporates technology of the fifth generation jets, according to details available on the Sukhoi company's website. It is also said to be more agile as compared to previous models.

Pakistan and Russia had signed a bilateral defence cooperation agreement aimed at strengthening military-to-military relations in November last year. The deal had to be followed by another ‘technical cooperation agreement’ to pave the way for sale of defence equipment to Pakistan.

Just last year, Russia’s Rostec hi-tech corporation CEO Sergey Chemezov announced that Russia had lifted its embargo on the delivery of armaments and military hardware to Pakistan and was holding negotiations on the delivery of helicopters to the country.
But for PAF Mirage IIIs and Vs, its better to phase out non-Rose ones and convert them into spares for the Rose Upgraded Mirage IIIs and Vs. Also, buy MirageVs from Egypt as spares to support the current fleet. In the mean time PAF needs to negotiate for SU-35s or J-31s.
 
Moscow: Pakistan and Russia are in talks about the delivery of Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jets and previously agreed upon delivery of Mi-35M helicopters, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister (FM) Sergei Ryabkov said, Sputnik reported.

Earlier this year, a draft contract for the delivery of four Mi-35M 'Hind E' combat helicopters was sent to Pakistan from Russia, a source in the Russian military and technical cooperation was quoted by the Russian news agency TASS. Increasing military cooperation between Islamabad and Moscow would not negatively impact Russia's ties with India, Ryabkov said, adding that Pak-Russia ties were improving in other sectors as well, including energy.

The Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov referred to Pakistan as Russia's closest partner and said, "I do not think that the contacts under discussion will cause jealousy on the part of any of the two sides."

The twin-engine Sukhoi-35 is a fourth generation multi-role combat jet which also incorporates technology of the fifth generation jets, according to details available on the Sukhoi company's website. It is also said to be more agile as compared to previous models.

Pakistan and Russia had signed a bilateral defence cooperation agreement aimed at strengthening military-to-military relations in November last year. The deal had to be followed by another ‘technical cooperation agreement’ to pave the way for sale of defence equipment to Pakistan.

Just last year, Russia’s Rostec hi-tech corporation CEO Sergey Chemezov announced that Russia had lifted its embargo on the delivery of armaments and military hardware to Pakistan and was holding negotiations on the delivery of helicopters to the country.

Oh Bhai, you've posted this news a wrong section. This thread isone of the most hatred thread at PDF. Don't put any news in this particular thread.. this is for crashes only.
 
Sir wishlist has no ending and we want even more than that but question is that would current Griffo Radar on PGs (plz correct me if i am wrong) accommodate or is capable to get these upgrades integrated with it? I highly doubt that its gona happen. Also i am sure that PAF is wise enough not to use any of the funds on up gradation of PGs rather they have got many other areas which are already good and can be brought in at par with any modern system.



Those retired were from number 2 squadron and they were F-7Ps, not F-7PGs.

Its not wishlist 2 out 4 (R-73/74 & A-Darter) weapon systems have huge probability of being inducted in PAF as they are pursuing those for different reasons.
 
but by observing the conditions we can predict whats gonna happen as PAF is showing interest in Yak-130, KAIs machine and L-15 so this indicates that a advance trainer is coming soon as if we are gonna retire mirages and f-7s and after some time F-7PGs too so what we are left with ?????? F-16 and Jf-17 so what after K-8p direct thunder then F-16 who's gonna do the interception job ?????? a trainer will which could be converted to light attack jet will fill the gap ....!!!!!!!!! steps will gonna b something like this you go to Mushshak then probably super mushshak then to t-37 then K-8 in fighter conventional after K-8P the more advanced trainer which might come soon then on thunder and J-10b or F-16 after it.
What is wrong with sending pilots to F-16 and Thunder directly? And by the way for interception both thunder and F-16 are MR aircraft, fully capable of performing air interceptions. T-37 is ultimately going to be retired and when Mushak is a mushak irrespective whether MFI-17 or super Mushak.

Technology is changing and PAF is taking full advantage. Results are evident through tremendous reduction i suspension rates, possible only through extensive simulator training. So my friend dont worry our boys are fully capable to jump in fly by wire cockpit out of K-8

Mig-21 Belongs here.
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not here.
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i have no Faith in these 3rd Gen Fighters.
My friend never say this thing infront of those who have been sitting in these machines. You will offend them.
 
Guys, keep the discussion to crash of jets. For other discussion relevant threads are there.
 
they want/need new fighters, they deserve Rafales and LCAs. its our governments fault..... :mad:
Its no body's fault its fault of budgets. Governments have to look at their budgets and try to accommodate as much as they can . Aircraft are not cheap. Its not only the cost of aircraft which is considered, but support cost as well. there are some strategic points which become decisive factors. those in business have to deliberate each point and then reach a structured decision. It cant be on the whims.
 
Its not wishlist 2 out 4 (R-73/74 & A-Darter) weapon systems have huge probability of being inducted in PAF as they are pursuing those for different reasons.

Yes Sir, U r right abt that. But i PGs?I highly doubt that.
 
well I still think F7PG is excellent Dogfighter with Aerodynamics improvements incorporated from F16 it can still serve u know.
 
Yes Sir, U r right abt that. But i PGs?I highly doubt that.

Don't doubt it man, if F-7 can have AIM-9L/Ms (see pic below) then why PGs can't have those as they will give them deadly WVR capability and to some level BVR capability too because ASRAAM or R-73/74 have ranges of upto 50 to 40 kms.



F-7s with AIM-9.jpeg
 
Don't doubt it man, if F-7 can have AIM-9L/Ms (see pic below) then why PGs can't have those as they will give them deadly WVR capability and to some level BVR capability too because ASRAAM or R-73/74 have ranges of upto 50 to 40 kms.



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the pic is of F7PG double delta wings.
 

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