Notify PAF Aircraft Crashes

[Windjammer]

war like scenario....well USA is at WAR! we don't se them losing a plane a month! reason is we truly have flying coffins! Mirages have served us superbly for over 3 decades its time we retire them. time for us to move to J10s and JF-17s!

If you must compare, then with the exception of say the F-16, most US fighters are twin engine machines...OTOH, while PAF has the distinction of flying the F-16 for 100,000 hours without an incident, the NLAF on the other hand once had the misfortune of over 20 F-16 losses for same the amount of flying.

 

[ice_man]

good call
lets find the finds for them too, should we try asking PPP govt to halt stealing state money for the rest of its tenure?
I know expecting money back from Swiss accounts is a dream never coming true but maybe we will be able to save much for some new jets for the remainder of the time?
democracy is the best revenge yea? why not use this revenge against our adversaries?

sir even though i totally agree with you. that state money is being stolen left right and center! having said that not like the Musharraf government which ruled paksitan for almost a decade and was considered a key ally of the white house brokered us a deal for 100 used F-16s.

all the procurment under him was also less than what we had truly deserved for putting our country in the line of fire!

Sadly all our institutions are corrupt to the core including our armed forces.

 

[Najam Khan]

sir even though i totally agree with you. that state money is being stolen left right and center! having said that not like the Musharraf government which ruled paksitan for almost a decade and was considered a key ally of the white house brokered us a deal for 100 used F-16s.

Forget 100, he should not have delayed and dumped the 36 F-16 Block52 deal. That so called 'Earthquake rehabilitation' theory delayed delivery of 36 new +28 old F-16s deal. Today the Mirages and F-7s (not -PGs) we still see flying in numbers is because of all those things that happened from 2001-2007.

Regarding F-7 and Mirage crash rate, I think after seeing all that its time for PAF to dis-ban atleast 2 squadrons and replace them with one JF-17 unit, its not something new for them. 15 Sqn was disbanded for three years from August 1997-2000. Even if they dis-ban 3 units, and induct JF-17 in one they will still be able to achieve the desired strength of 20 units in a year (unlike IAF which needs few years to fill the gap in its required sqn strength).

 

[shivansps]

totally true,

when the French came few years ago on a visit them they were surprised that these decade old mirages were still able to fly. but they strongly advised to ground them because there is only much an airframe can take.

issue is limited resources vs operational demands. and sometimes things dont turn out too well for aircraft and/ or the pilot

40 years whiout a upgrade or anything, they still fly, not much and they are useless, but they fly...

 

[Muradk]

12 crashed in 18 months!!! what is going on!!! is our training lacking or is it just the flying coffins our pilots are flying!


13 total crashes since MAY 2011!!

Flight Safety Issues

 

[fatman17]

some of the mirages (ca.68) and F-7 skybolts should be grounded / de-activated. these a/s are too old now.

 

[Luftwaffe]

some of the mirages (ca.68) and F-7 skybolts should be grounded / de-activated. these a/s are too old now.

Sir, Mirage IIIs are now 54 Years old, without discussing Airframe Life/Variants the Aircraft has crossed 50 Years. We should have purchased M2000 from U.A.E in mid 2000s which now is too late [7 billion daily corruption why didn't PAF demand more budget under WOT pretext].

 

[baqai]

when ever this thread is bumped up it gives me goose bumps it is one thread here which i HATE to see refreshed

 

[Safriz]

Sir, Mirage IIIs are now 54 Years old, without discussing Airframe Life/Variants the Aircraft has crossed 50 Years. We should have purchased M2000 from U.A.E in mid 2000s which now is too late [7 billion daily corruption why didn't PAF demand more budget under WOT pretext].

Americans are still flying the harriers..
How old are the Harriers?

 

[Luftwaffe]

Americans are still flying the harriers...How old are the Harriers?

Hi, I Think you should read the complete development of Harrier II UK-US and the complete program many Airframes were built post 1980-1995, These Aircraft were extensively modernized and from scratched developed-manufactured.

 

[fatman17]

Sir, Mirage IIIs are now 54 Years old, without discussing Airframe Life/Variants the Aircraft has crossed 50 Years. We should have purchased M2000 from U.A.E in mid 2000s which now is too late [7 billion daily corruption why didn't PAF demand more budget under WOT pretext].

u mean qatar - they were only 8 examples for sales. what difference would they have made.

 

[fatman17]

Saturday, December 22, 2012


Pakistani drone crashes in northwest: officials

PESHAWAR: A Pakistani reconnaissance drone has crashed in a restive northwestern tribal region after developing a technical fault, security officials said on Friday.
The unmanned military aircraft was on a surveillance mission when it came down on Thursday night in Azam Warsak area, west of Wana, the main town of the South Waziristan tribal region, a senior security official told AFP on condition of anonymity. Another official confirmed the crash and said that Taliban militants surrounded the site and later took possession of the wreckage. Pakistan manufactures its own small drones which the army, navy and air force use for reconnaissance and do not have the lethal capability of US drones which target militant hideouts in the country’s tribal regions. The US strikes are deeply unpopular in Pakistan, which says they violate its sovereignty and fan anti-US sentiment, but American officials are said to believe they are too important to give up. In July last year a Pakistan Navy drone crashed near an oil refinery in the suburbs of Karachi after hitting a bird while on a routine flight. afp

 

[Safriz]

^^^ Thats good news..
It confirms that Pakistani drones are up there watching the militants,and the borders.

 

[fatman17]

Drone Strike, Drone Crash

•A U.S. drone attack on Friday on a house in the Hassu Khel area of North Waziristan agency killed four suspected militants. The militants’ identities and affiliations are currently unknown.[1]

•A Pakistani reconnaissance drone crashed in the Azam Warsak area of South Waziristan on Thursday night. Earlier reports claimed that a drone had crashed in the Kaza Panga area of the agency, but reports were unclear as to whether it was a U.S. or Pakistani drone. According to reports, Taliban militants surrounded the crash site and “took possession of the wreckage.” Pakistani intelligence officials countered that the wreckage was that of a Pakistani drone and that Pakistani security personnel had possession of the vehicle.[2]

^^^ Thats good news..
It confirms that Pakistani drones are up there watching the militants,and the borders.

^^^ Thats good news..
It confirms that Pakistani drones are up there watching the militants,and the borders.

a drone crashes and u call it good news - youre weird man

 

[Safriz]

^^
Fat bhai..
I am appreciating the fact that Pakistani drones are up there watching the terrorists.
Crash tou hotay rehtay hain..no biggy