Not Shinkansen ? India plans high-speed rail project with China

[djsjs]

It was the Chinese company's fault if it didn't seek all clearances before it started the construction project
No problem with Turkey or Indian laws

the best way is we don't go there....India


hope india buy japan or germany trains...lol

 

[Echo_419]

the best way is we don't go there....India


hope india buy japan or germany trains...lol

You ain't deciding that kid if there was no money to be made your national rail operator won't be investing here
& you already Commited over 20 billion dollars which is only going to get big & there is nothing you can do about it

 

[Levina]

Hypothetically speaking, let's say this HSR will be built in India (doesn't matter if its Japanese or Chinese technology). Do you think the Indian public will take advantage of this wonderful tech? Will you guys use it?

@he-man , @anant_s , @DRAY , @levina , @nair , @Ravi Nair , @scorpionx, @SpArK et al.

Ofcourse!!!
HSR is being built because ppl "need" it. When the economy airlines were launched not many were sanguine that it would work but it has.And that surprised many.

 

[AgentOrange]

You aren't begging and showing salesmanship spirit enough

Meh. I fully endorse India and Japan and/or France cooperating on HSR.

 

[AgentOrange]

the best way is we don't go there....India


hope india buy japan or germany trains...lol

China is stupid to invest in India, IMO. Many Indian officials are notorious deadbeats who don't pay up.

India Commonwealth Games: Foreign firms say bills unpaid for India Commonwealth Games - Los Angeles Times

 

[bolo]

China to offer aid for India high-speed rail study| Reuters
(Reuters) - China will conduct and pay for a feasibility study in India for a high-speed rail line to link Delhi with the southeast city of Chennai, a spokesman for India's Ministry of Railways said on Tuesday, as the country moves to modernise its creaking rail infrastructure.

Yes, and the results are india does not have the money to pay for it. it's like you want to ride in a limousine but want it for a price of a Kia.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China is stupid to invest in India, IMO. Many Indian officials are notorious deadbeats who don't pay up.
India Commonwealth Games: Foreign firms say bills unpaid for India Commonwealth Games - Los Angeles Times

That's why we shouldn't put our investment at the risk.

The SOE is much smarter than the POE when it comes to the geopolitical issues.

 

[Keel]

Forget China please!
Indians should consider Japan, Germany, France, Canada ...

Modi and the India troops will be busy attending each of the above countries' national day like this one invited by France in 2009 when India was selecting their fighter jets

Indian troops to be honoured on France's Bastille Day - Hindustan Times

And in 2012, the winner was -
France swoops to rob UK of £13bn Indian jet contract | Daily Mail Online

 

[Pride]

Yes, and the results are india does not have the money to pay for it. it's like you want to ride in a limousine but want it for a price of a Kia.

Ya ya.. we can be world's 3rd largest buyer of defense equipment from across the world but it is only tough for us to buy a train because it is China.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

China is stupid to invest in India, IMO. Many Indian officials are notorious deadbeats who don't pay up.

India Commonwealth Games: Foreign firms say bills unpaid for India Commonwealth Games - Los Angeles Times

India simply has no money left in their budget. It all goes to subsidies for vote bank politics.

They can't even pay for the initial order of the Rafale, due to "no money in the budget". And the initial order is only like $1 billion or so.

So how can they pay this $32 billion amount? Or three times that amount to get it from a Japanese company?

That's a drop in the bucket compared to our $4 trillion in reserves, but India is a desperate country, they haven't even paid the bills for their Commonwealth games. They need every bit of foreign currency they can, to help plug their massive current account deficit every year (which is covered by foreign currency debt).

 

[j20]

我不希望中国帮助印度建设高速铁路
高速铁路是一个精密的系统工程
施工需要几年时间，施工精度需要达到厘米级别
印度的信誉不高，常常提出一些宏伟的计划，然后因为各种原因拖延，使得计划被阉割甚至取消
中国帮助印度建设高铁的困难如下：
预算问题：中国可以提供贷款，但是怎样收回是个大问题，毕竟印度财政收入不高，而且花钱的地方有很多。
规划问题：印度更改规划是出了名的，进口俄罗斯二手航母项目因为印度频繁提出各种要求给了俄罗斯人提价的借口
信任问题：因为领土纠纷，中国一直是印度的假想敌。我可以预见在项目的可行性研究阶段会有媒体出来说“中国间谍在偷印度的地质数据！”
拆迁问题：只要有几户人家不愿意拆迁工程就进行不下去，如果强制拆迁，可以预见的是会有媒体出来说：“中国公司欺负印度人。”
施工问题：中国和印度的工作文化很不一样，中国为了施工进度可以安排24小时连续施工，这在印度是不可能的。
有个在新德里做生意四年的网友发帖吐槽：‘他对面建设一栋两层楼房两个月了都没完工。’在中国农村建设类似的房子只要半个月
地方官员为了索贿卡住工程进度也是现实问题
高速铁路的施工材料标准化要求很高，跨国生产很难协调，成本还会更高，全部从中国进口会不会有人抗议？
I don't want China help India high-speed railway construction

High speed railway is a sophisticated system engineering

Construction takes a few years time, the construction precision need to achieve centimeter level

India's reputation is not high, often put forward some grand plan, then because of various reasons of delay, make plans to be castrated or even cancel

China to help difficult India HSR as follows:

Budget problems: China could provide loans, but how to recover is a big problem, after all, India finance income is not high, and there are many place to spend money.

The planning problem: the India plan to change a name, Russia's imports ofsecond-hand aircraft carrier project in India because of frequent demands to the Russians price excuse

Trust: because of territorial disputes, China has been India's imaginary enemy. I can see in the feasibility study phase of the project will be the media out said "Chinese spies stealing geological data of India!"

Demolition: as long as there is a few households do not want to demolition project will not continue, if forced removal, can be predicted that there would bethe media said: "the China Company to bully the indians."

Construction of the problem: China and India work culture is very different, Chinafor the construction progress can be arranged 24 hours of continuousconstruction, it is not possible in India.

In a New Delhi four years of doing business online posting Tucao: 'buildingacross from him a two storey building two months had not completed. " In rural China, similar to the construction of the house as long as half a month

Local officials in order to bribe stuck the progress of the project but also a realistic problem

Construction material standards of high-speed railway requirements are veryhigh, it is difficult to coordinate multinational production, the cost will be higher,all imported from China will not have people protesting?

 

[Abotani]

Chinese better stay away from Indian HSR ambitions,particularly long distance ones.Any mishap or accident, and the Indians will look for a scapegoat to cover their own incompetence and blame it on"cheap chinese maal"

 

[dray]

Chinese better stay away from Indian HSR ambitions,particularly long distance ones.Any mishap or accident, and the Indians will look for a scapegoat to cover their own incompetence and blame it on"cheap chinese maal"

Yeah, in India we don't desperately search for scapegoats within us for the fault of truly cheap chinese maal, like the broken locos.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

India simply has no money left in their budget. It all goes to subsidies for vote bank politics.

They can't even pay for the initial order of the Rafale, due to "no money in the budget". And the initial order is only like $1 billion or so.

So how can they pay this $32 billion amount? Or three times that amount to get it from a Japanese company?

That's a drop in the bucket compared to our $4 trillion in reserves, but India is a desperate country, they haven't even paid the bills for their Commonwealth games. They need every bit of foreign currency they can, to help plug their massive current account deficit every year (which is covered by foreign currency debt).

Lies.

The current Indian Foreign Reserves is updated and published weekly by the Reserve Bank of India.
Here's the latest - http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Wss/PDFs/02_WSS21112014.pdf
For the week-wise breakdown, head here - http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/WSSViewDetail.aspx?TYPE=Section&PARAM1=2

Bottomline: Current Indian Foreign Reserve ~ 315.5 Billion USD.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lies.

The current Indian Foreign Reserves is updated and published weekly by the Reserve Bank of India.
Here's the latest - http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/Wss/PDFs/02_WSS21112014.pdf
For the week-wise breakdown, head here - http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/WSSViewDetail.aspx?TYPE=Section&PARAM1=2

Bottomline: Current Indian Foreign Reserve ~ 315.5 Billion USD.

Read it.

No money left to buy Rafale fighters: Antony - Rediff.com News

India has deferred until the next financial year its plan to finalise a deal for purchase of 126 Rafale combat aircraft from France since there is "no money left" for this now, Defence Minister A K Antony has said.

And notice the difference between government budget (which includes the defence budget) and foreign exchange reserves.