No Deal? France Says it Might Never Deliver Mistral Ships to Russia

[Superboy]

Also russians can´t conquer europe. They aren´t european but asians. And history proves that asians usally get crushed when they attempt to step into europe.

This guy look like an Asian to you?

 

[ptldM3]

This guy look like an Asian to you?

The Guy knows nothing about anything. He is referring to Mongol rule over parts of what is today known as Russia, but by that token he must also have mongol in him since the Russians ruled Germany and much of eastern Europe. He must also have some African or middle eastern in him since a large portion of western Europe is inhabited by Africans a Middle Easterners.

 

[mike2000]

I'm Chinese Canadian 1st generation immigrant so I see myself as Chinese. China and Russia are best buddies. Why you hate Russia if not for being a Brit?

I dont hate Russia, i just made some factual points about Russia which you dont like(so you think i hate Russia).Even if theres anything i hate, is government policies(from any country for that matter),politicans not the people/country itself Moreover i make points even against even my government policies when i think they are indeed wrong, unlike most people who believe blindly in their government/politicians(not knwing politicans are all liars, its part of their job requirements/duties though.). I have long moved past the point of seeing things from only one angle of my country is the best/angel/saint or whatever. Maybe thats the reason why some nationalistic members on here dont understand me, since i can make points which they might not like whether its western country or eastern country or arab/african/middle eastern country etc. I belive its by doing this that we can all have an interesting debate, instead of always looking at things from your own perspective and ignoring all the wrongs your own country does. I have yet to see a member on here who holds such views as me and makes rational comments/judgements even to the detriment of his own country, well apart from my friend He-man.

I almost forgot about your last pointof China and Russia being 'best friends/buddies'.loool LMAO . You are still talking about friends in geo politics? You are now sounding like the Indian members here who keep deluding themsleves in thinking Russia is their best buddies, guess you will have to fight each other to win Russia's heart/ask for its hand in marriage. Hmmmm...how can i forget about my Vietnamese firends on here who also insist Russia is their best buddies as well. so i will make it 3 fighting for Russia's heart/hand in marriage(though i doubt Vietnam stands any chance of winning at all.lool).

So you can keep deluding yourself about 'friendship' with Russia. if that makes you happy. If you had said Russia is a strategic partner or to a lesser extent loose ally, then i would have agreed, since you both seem to sharethe smae global interests/world view for now and want to reduce/challenge U.S/western influence/hegemony worldwide. But thats it, there are no friends in politics, only interests bro. I thought you knew that?

 

[MarkusS]

Russian's are more european then Italians or many "europeans". I for one have no DNA links to "Asia" but Italy does, btw a large portion of western Europe is now inhabited by people from the Middle East and Africa. So can i call you Middle Eastern or African?







You are a laughing stock, Russia has the largest land mass in Europe. Do you know how they got that land mass? They conquered different lands in Europe. Lets also ignore the fact that Russia curb stomped German, Hungary, Italy, Romania, Japan, ect during ww2, as a result the Soviet union conquered half of Europe and willingly let those countries/republics break off peacefully, no one expelled anyone during the Soviet breakup, Gorbachev let countries declare independence.


I guess history or education in general is not your strong point






France signed a delivery agreement that it breached. The Mistral is property of France once it pays all of the money back and cuts the thing in half.

russians arent european. You can see in their face that they are asian. As for "north africans. Do you know what mare nostrum means? There is no biological difference between southerneuropeans and northern africans. Its mixed since thousands of years, Thats why we are so great, best of all.

Russia did not " willingly" let those countries break,off. They simply were bancrupt. Their soldiers were hted, never left the bases and had no contact with the local people. russia never was able to create something new. Russia is not able to install its own cultural values into other areas and thus fails in the long therm. In the end, why should any european orientate toward russia? they simply are not sharing our culture, history and traditions. they are seen as asians.

 

[Superboy]

Russia did not " willingly" let those countries break,off.

Russia is one of the former Soviet republics. It was an agreement to disband the USSR. Chechnya is part of Russia, so not allowed independence.

 

[MarkusS]

Russia is one of the former Soviet republics. It was an agreement to disband the USSR. Chechnya is part of Russia, so not allowed independence.

again you fail. Not one european nation was part of the USSR. Do you claim now east germany was part of USSR? lol

 

[mike2000]

Did they steal Russias money

Two biggest back stabbers are Uk and french

One could never trust the French to deliver the goods on time , and UK well they are well know theives too all the gold from Pakistan and India


France = puny
Russia = Big country
Uk = pub

and Pakistan equals?? lol
How come punny pub like U.K has a far bigger economy and living standards than Russia despite having less than half the population of 'Big Russia'? Same with France. How come Big Russia is still purchasing many of its weapons systems/parts from the punny-pub U.K/france and other western crappy countries? Guess Russians officials are really dumb/foolish.

 

[ptldM3]

again you fail. Not one european nation was part of the USSR. Do you claim now east germany was part of USSR? lol

Are you brain dead? Does Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine not count as Europe?

 

[MarkusS]

Are you brain dead? Does Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine not count as Europe?

you said germany. simple fact is, russia collapsed, could not influence those nations and bind them. Russia is hated there like dirt.

on a sidenote you still were not able to say why we should sell weapons to a country that has become an enemy of the EU. That woukd be against our security interests.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

@ACE OF THE AIR


You forgot Spain,Itay,Greece,Portugal... ?
Before talking about things,you should learn things.
What a joke.

This Thread is concerning France and Russia correct.

The countries that you have mentioned have got the EU bail out and hence gone on Austerity where as France is not in that position so please compare with those in the same category. France by taking sides is harming her own economy and increasing unemployment. National interests have higher priority.

In case of War those countries that you have mentioned would come to aid France with material but no funds. If France is weak financially material help would be of no use.

Please refrain from childish comments.

 

[ptldM3]

russians arent european. You can see in their face that they are asian. As for "north africans. Do you know what mare nostrum means? There is no biological difference between southerneuropeans and northern africans. Its mixed since thousands of years, Thats why we are so great, best of all.

Russia did not " willingly" let those countries break,off. They simply were bancrupt. Their soldiers were hted, never left the bases and had no contact with the local people. russia never was able to create something new. Russia is not able to install its own cultural values into other areas and thus fails in the long therm. In the end, why should any european orientate toward russia? they simply are not sharing our culture, history and traditions. they are seen as asians.

Of course we are Asian, blond hair, light eyed Asians that happen to be unusually tall. There are Russians that have trace DNA that is more common in Asian people but not all many norther Russians have no such traces. I have zero Asian features and no DNA markers that indicate it.

Yet look at western Europe, it can not even be called "white" anymore. As a matter of fact when i seen your picture i thought you were Indian or Bangladeshi

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

the difference is that you cant eat money. Italy went bancrupt many times. But life goes on, people have fun. People in italy take it easy. We have a good country, mild climate, perfect agriclture, food and beaches. God meant it good with us. Families are intact so even a state bancruptcy is not end of world.

What you are saying is correct but that is how it is in most of the countries but it can not be said of particular cities or businesses. All the countries have some thing that is unique to them which give them an identity.

State bankruptcy is due to mismanagement and lack of vision mainly but that is the law of nature. No one is supposed to be at top for eternity, hence the rise and fall of civilisations has been taking place. So one should not under estimate the other.

Of course we are Asian, blond hair, light eyed Asians that happen to be unusually tall. There are Russians that have trace DNA that is more common in Asian people but not all many norther Russians have no such traces. I have zero Asian features and no DNA markers that indicate it.

Yet look at western Europe, it can not even be called "white" anymore. As a matter of fact when i seen your picture i thought you were Indian or Bangladeshi

After all Children of ADAM and EVE

 

[AgentOrange]

So what? It's a crappy amphibious assault ship. PAK-FA is priority of Russia's military

So Russia can't have two different priorities at the same time? The mistral and the Pak-FA serve different missions. Also, in case you still can't see the difference between the two acquisitions, one is a plane and it flies. The other is a ship and it floats. On water.

Don't want to play by the rules, then don't complain if a Russian Su-30 drops a nuke in Paris. Hey, all is fair, right? No laws needed.

How the hell do you conclude that not completing an arms transfer leads to thermonuclear war? Seriously? How old are you?

France technology not as good as Russian technology. Rafale compared to PAK-FA, a whole level below. Mistral is a pretty old design. Has no modern air defense. Not even a CIWS like Type 071 has.

Type 071 amphibious transport dock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 071 is an LPD. The mistral is an LHD. They aren't even in the same class so why are you comparing the two? On behalf of Chinese people everywhere, if you're actually Chinese, I humbly ask that you stop embarrassing the rest of us. Also, stop embarrassing Canadians.

 

[Superboy]

An amphibious assault ship is just like an aerial transporter, a second rate military hardware. Also, the lack of modern CIWS really puts Mistral at a disadvantage.

 

[MarkusS]

Of course we are Asian, blond hair, light eyed Asians that happen to be unusually tall. There are Russians that have trace DNA that is more common in Asian people but not all many norther Russians have no such traces. I have zero Asian features and no DNA markers that indicate it.

Yet look at western Europe, it can not even be called "white" anymore. As a matter of fact when i seen your picture i thought you were Indian or Bangladeshi

you have a misconception about asians i guess. Russians arent european in the slightest. Your cuoture is not european. No freedom, no free speech, no democracy. No hellenic worldview and no humanism. You just look like the usual oriental despostism. And what do you mean with "white" ? How retarded must someone be to believe that romans were "white" in any form. When i see a russian i usually can see where he is from from the puffy face and the way they look.