Next Chief Of Army Staff - 2013 ?

[Saleem]

can anyone name the top three generals who were in line 3 eyars ago before kiyani got his second tenure? just trying to see who lost his chance at COAS with this action.....

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

LT.GENERAL HAROON.

 

[Ark-Angel]

Kayani may be retained in powerful security role after retirement – The Express Tribune

Kayani CJCSC

 

[Kompromat]

Kayani may be retained in powerful security role after retirement – The Express Tribune

Kayani CJCSC

This is a bad decision.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

This is a bad decision.

I second that, if its for "joint chiefs of staff committee" ,then it should go to admiral asif sandila, the rotation of this post from the air-force & navy is extremely important for better coordination between the three services

 

[batmannow]

KIYANI is proving tobe a traitor ?
he is involved in turning a professinal army, into the gang of thugs working for political croupt elites just, be in power himself?
should be punished, & will be punished on the time?
pakarmy should clean this mess, before bieng treared apart & taken down BY the masters who planned the raymonds, who were secrtly assembling , a quick reaction force to suddenly take over the pak nucks?
what about that MEMOGATE?
why genrl pasha went to resign ?
its was all KIYANI,s show?
what about ABOTTABAD commision?
how can it could hve happened? wasnt KIYANI not asked?
now here its another of shot taken by NOORA LEAGUE the great saudi slaves, after genrl BUUT?
i am in a great hope, this all end up bad for this crooked person, who is selling this country, like china cutting plots of land?

 

[Dazzler]

I know a llittle but not much, Gen Haroon is a man of many traits and takes no nonsense (politicians dont like such types ), i do think NS maybe thinking to maintain Kiyani for this reason alone provided Kiyani complies but seems unlikely.

Haroon is a popular choice in military circles with good credentials.

 

[batmannow]

I know a llittle but not much, Gen Haroon is a man of many traits and takes no nonsense (politicians dont like such types ), i do think NS maybe thinking to maintain Kiyani for this reason alone provided Kiyani complies but seems unlikely.

Haroon is a popular choice in military circles with good credentials.

when it comes to decesion by NOORA ,he will never give the charge to guys like HAROON shb or TARIQ shb?
his choice would be KIYANI , cause he knows this is a crook, worked with the most crouptest of political presidents , yes zardari?
all that, 5 years of continues destruction was done , in front of him? didnt spoke a single word against it?
cause was the partner in crime, yes a sleeping partner!
just like CJ chodri monte carlo conection?

 

[Farah Sohail]

I know a llittle but not much, Gen Haroon is a man of many traits and takes no nonsense (politicians dont like such types ), i do think NS maybe thinking to maintain Kiyani for this reason alone provided Kiyani complies but seems unlikely.

Haroon is a popular choice in military circles with good credentials.

@bold....But Taimi Khan says tht Gen Kiyani doesnt want to see Gen Haroon as COAS at all...so he is lobbying hard for Gen Rashid Mahmood as COAS..

 

[Sugarcane]

Kayani may be retained in powerful security role after retirement – The Express Tribune

Kayani CJCSC

It looks like Kayani will leave office only when people will start calling him dog like Yahyah Khan - Most meesna & tc general we ever had.

 

[batmannow]

It looks like Kayani will leave office only when people will start calling him dog like Yahyah Khan - Most meesna & tc general we ever had.

his fate will be decided jst wait the next man in , friend right now he is the most hated person in PA?
he is trying to get hold, by indirectly involving US adminstration, to be his insurance after his retirment, through ganjaa brothers?
but in the end, once out of uniform, he will recive his gift of traitory?

 

[genmirajborgza786]

just in

news coming in, that gen Rashid mahmood, is most likely to be the new army chief

Gen Rashid likely to be new army chief

October 05, 2013

ISLAMABAD - Consultations have been completed to choose Kayani’s successor as the government will not wait for November 28, the day when incumbent Chief of Army Staff is going to retire.

The decision will come in the coming week, much earlier than Kayani’s retirement date,” a senior official of Prime Minister Secretariat told The Nation on Friday. Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif plans will name the successor of General Kayani weeks before the incumbent’s extended six-year term expires in November, sources revealed. The move is aimed at quashing the ongoing guessing game about the next chief of army staff and ensuring a smooth changeover at a time when the military is fighting militants on many fronts.

In prior two appointments - Gen Waheed Kakar in 1993 and Gen Pervez Musharraf in 1998 - the Premier preferred dependability to merit. However, close aides of the Premier said there is a growing realisation on part of the PM that he made a mistake in ignoring merit when he made the decisive appointments. Now, the Premier has taken a stance that he will make a decision purely on merit and will keep seniority in mind when appointing a new army chief. If the principle of seniority is strictly adhered to, then after the retirement of Gen Kayani, Gen Haroon Aslam is likely to become chairman joint chiefs of staff committee, and next most senior general - Gen Rashid Mahmood - may be new army chief.

Known as a diehard Rajput and a typical Lahoria who has an illustrious penchant for spicy Lahori cuisine, Lt Gen Rashid Mahmood got commission in Pakistan Army in 1979 and belongs to 7 Baloch Regiment. Interestingly the incumbent COAS Gen Kiyani belongs to 5-Baloch Regiment. Gen Rashid Mahmood has served as Military Secretary to former President Rafique Tarar in 1999 at the time when former dictator Pervez Musharaf imposed martial law in the country. He passed staff college from US with flying colours. Gen Rashid also served in ISI as DG (P). He also served as General Officer Commanding (GOC) and Corps Commander Lahore almost for five years in both positions. During this period, he managed good relations with Sharifs.

Gen Kayani, who was appointed as the army chief by former military ruler Gen Pervez Musharraf in 2007, has already availed a three-year extension granted by then Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani in 2010. He is now expected to retire on November 28. Some funnily ridiculous reports naively suggest that General Kayani would be made Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee on his retirement. These reports have conveniently forgotten that General Kayani retires on November 28 while CJCSC retires on October 7 and his replacement would be made in the ongoing week.

A PML-N senior leader who is very close to the Prime Minister, however, said that the decision would be taken at an ‘appropriate time and refused to share any decision in this regard.’

Pakistan Peoples Party Parliamentarians (PPPP) had the chance to appoint a new army chief in November 2010 but it extended the tenure of the Gen Kayani. Reuters adds: General Ashfaq Kayani is likely to stay head of the military with a new title when he steps down as army chief next month, government and security sources said, taking over some of the duties of his successor.

Sources and aides close to Kayani said Sharif wanted to make him head of a revamped and more powerful Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (JCSC). One senior intelligence official said Sharif planned to overhaul the JCSC, a largely ceremonial office, into a ‘central defence body’ by restoring its command over the entire military establishment and giving it additional powers. “The new JCSC chief will be in charge of the nuclear arsenal. He’ll decide on action against terrorists,” said the source, adding that new powers included the right to promote, post and transfer key military officers.

“Basically, the JCSC office will be what it was always supposed to be. The overall boss.” Military officials did not return repeated calls seeking comment. The government’s spokesman said he also could not comment until an official announcement on Monday when the current JCSC chief is due to step down. “The JCSC chairmanship is the most likely option for Kayani,” said a close Sharif aide. “He’s an expert on the Pakistani insurgency. He understands the war in Afghanistan.”

Gen Rashid likely to be new army chief

 

[genmirajborgza786]

For news details visit : http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n.../editorials/02-Oct-2013/rumours-in-the-capita

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Rumours in the capital



Lieutenant General Haroon Aslam and Lieutenant General Rashid Mahmood have been reported as almost the “final” candidates, that will fill the upcoming vacancies after the retirement of Chairman Joint Staff Committee General Khalid Sharmeen Wynne and Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani respectively. Although it has not been confirmed officially, these two names remain in the air as the talks for the next CJSC and COAS commence in the capital. The announcement is to be made by Premier Nawaz Sharif upon returning from the United Nations General Assembly.

Rumours and analyses emanating from journalists, military analysts and politicians remain abundant speculation, but the Premier has yet to declare a decision for either position. Considering how these two roles are the most influential card players in Pakistan’s domestic and foreign policy, it is an issue replete with dramatic turns and twists that yields – historically – unexpected changes.

Statements issued by the Federal Information Minister are ambiguous at best. This newspaper was informed that the Premier will announce the changes upon his arrival which is due in the next few days. It was contradicted by the ministry when it expressed ignorance about any such development. This growing confusion involving the most coveted military slots in Pakistan carries risk for the security situation of the country for several reasons. With 2014 around the corner and an imminent American military withdrawal from Afghanistan, Pakistan cannot afford ambiguity in its stance about its highest military rankings. Furthermore, with growing hostility from extremists and relentless episodic attacks on citizens that have led to dozens of lives lost in the past two weeks alone, the government would instill stability by giving a clear statement in the upcoming days in relation to the new CJCSC and COAS. Hopefully the decision will be in line with the order of seniority, and any adventurism will be avoided.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Haroon, Rashad

Haroon, Rashad ‘final’ probables for CJCSC, COAS

ISLAMABAD - The two top generals who are the probables for the most coveted military slots stay very much ‘in the game’, with the premier scheduled to make a related announcement sometime soon after landing in Pakistan upon completing his important visit to the United States.

Lieutenant General Haroon Aslam and Lt-Gen Rashad Mahmood are the respective candidates for filling in the upcoming vacancies following the retirement of Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC) General Khalid Shameem Wynne and Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on October 7 and November 28.

According to official sources, the Prime Minister Secretariat recently returned a summary moved by the Ministry of Defence (MoD) on the CJCSC appointment, on the grounds that certain official procedures were not followed. This reportedly happened shortly before the PM Nawaz Sharif had left for his US visit.

A fresh summary containing the names of Lt-Gen Haroon Aslam, Lt-Gen Rashad Mehmood and Lt-Gen Raheel Sharif has been moved to the PM Secretariat, a senior government functionary, requesting anonymity, shared with The Nation. The summary would be put up before the PM for his signature to have the new CJCSC appointed, shortly after his landing in Pakistan, the official said.

The PM spokesman and federal information minister, Senator Pervaiz Rashid expressed ignorance about the issue, saying the things would come out clear in the coming days. “I don’t know if any such development has taken place. I need to look into the issue before making a statement on an important official matter,” he said, when approached and asked about the reported return of the MoD summary by the PM Secretariat. “Everything would be clear in the coming days. All we need to do is stop speculating and be patient,” he remarked.

An internal announcement within the relevant military circles regarding the elevation of General Haroon Aslam, presently the Chief of Logistics Staff, as the CJCSC is expected by this weekend, once the PM signs the related summary. Moreover, the government reportedly would announce the name of General Rashad Mahmood, the incumbent Chief of General Staff (CGS), as the next COAS in the days to follow.

Raheel Sharif, who holds the portfolio of Inspector General, Training and Evaluation (IG T&E), can be appointed as Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCAS) if government is to ‘go by the book’ and accommodate all the three generals. The VCAS position, which contains the appointment of a four-star general, has not been made functional since November 2007 when the then VCAS General Ashfaq Kayani was elevated to the COAS rank by the outgoing Army Chief General Parvez Musharraf.

Being one of the most-hyped issues these days, the appointment of the new COAS and CJCSC has been marked with reported twists and turns. While the defence pundits, journalists and politicians float different names for the two positions, the final word has yet to come from the PM who has kept his cards close to his chest.

Regarded as a close confidante of General Kayani, Lt-Gen Rashad Mehmood would become second senior-most general in Pakistan Army after Haroon Aslam once Ashfaq Kayani and Khalid Shameem reached the retirement age.

This, according to a retired general, makes Mehmood the strongest probable for the COAS position. “I think Nawaz Sharif would avoid adventurism. He’s learnt from past and I don’t think there would be any superseding this time. Going by the book and accommodating the top generals sounds to me a very convenient option.”

In terms of seniority, Rashad Mehmood is followed by Raheel Sharif, Tariq Khan (Corps Commander Mangla) and Zaheerul Islam Abbasi (Director General Inter Services Intelligence).

Vis-à-vis the CJCSC appointment, the name of Naval Chief Admiral Asif Sandila was doing rounds in the privy circles till recently. However, a credible military insider does not give much credence to this piece of information. “The government may have considered his (Sandila’s) name but ground realities do not support the occurrence of any such possibility,” he commented on Monday.

The positions of CJCSC and the four services chiefs have equivalent ranks and statuses, the military official said. “Although, the CJCSC has an edge over the three services chiefs in terms of organisational protocol, all these positions have equal status but a service chief would not be interested in accepting an equivalent post that has more of a ceremonial role and that is quite less powerful and lucrative compared to heading an armed force.” Till 2001, Parvez Musharraf had remained CJCSC for three years while heading the military as COAS at the same time.

Since then, the army generals Aziz Khan, Ehsanul Haq, Tariq Majeed, and Khalid Shahmeem Wynne each saw three-year appointments for the said post. The CJCSC-ship had last gone outside Pakistan Army in 1997 with the elevation of Air Marshal Farooq Feroz Khan as Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee.

 

[fatman17]

Top Military Promotions

•Army chief General Ashfaq Kayani met with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Friday to discuss the appointment of the next Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee. The current occupant of the office, General Khalid Shameen Wynne will retire on Saturday.[5]

•According to a Friday Reuters report, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is considering keeping army chief General Ashfaq Kayani in a major role after he leaves his current position next month. The most likely destination for Kayani, according to the report, is to be the head of a traditionally-ceremonial but newly-empowered Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, a position that will become vacant within the next few days.[6]