NEW Syria war crimes' evidences +18!!!

[Kompromat]

@Wholegrain

Syria in 2014 = Afghanistan - still can be salvaged
Syria in 2016 = Somalia ( If no intervention takes place )

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Still powerful with it’s long range missiles & speed to escape enemy missiles afterwards, force the other side to quit it’s operation

Sigh

-_-

Syria's MiG-25s are obsolete sir.

 

[A1Kaid]

The very fact that Muslims cant short their own shit allows 'others' to intervene in our business for THEIR interests.

Trust me if Turks, Arabs and Pakistanis team up to hammer Asad - we have so much power while combined that NO ONE will come to rescue him and Iranians won't lift a finger !

You're on the wrong side... You don't realize the consequences of that, you as a Pakistani should have learned about the evils of a foreign backed militancy. The chemicals weapons were also used by militants as revealed by hackers.

 

[Kompromat]

Still powerful with it’s long range missiles & speed to escape enemy missiles afterwards, force the other side to quit it’s operation

As powerful as my old honda.

F-15s - Typhoons - F-16s can shoot down anything that flies in Asad's air force. Su-25 can run fast, though not faster than an AMRAAM. It also needs to run in its own air space as shout it venture out into Israel or any of the Middle eastern states - Patriots will pick em up.

You're on the wrong side... You don't realize the consequences of that, you as a Pakistani should have learned about the evils of a foreign backed militancy. The chemicals weapons were also used by militants as revealed by hackers.

I back no side - I believe the war can finish if Asad is gone. It will turn from a full blown conflict into a low intensity conflict which can be contained.

 

[anonymus]

I have a question, what would happen if Iran closed its air space in order to prevent Pakistan to launch the aerial attack on Syria?

A more relevant question is how will Pakistan strike Syria when the distance between pakistan and syria is 3400 KM even when flying along great circle, even if Iran does not put up resistance to Pakistan.

@Yzd Khalifa


We would never need Iranian air space sir. If the fellow Muslim states man up and kick this son of a bitch, we could deploy the amount of jets they ask from us in Jordan,Turkey or both.

You would need to transport them by sea.

 

[A1Kaid]

As powerful as my old honda.

F-15s - Typhoons - F-16s can shoot down anything that flies in Asad's air force. Su-25 can run fast, though not faster than an AMRAAM. It also needs to run in its own air space as shout it venture out into Israel or any of the Middle eastern states - Patriots will pick em up.



I back no side - I believe the war can finish if Asad is gone. It will turn from a full blown conflict into a low intensity conflict which can be contained.

But you are supporting a side, you want to attack the government of Syria and aid the foreign militants. That happens and Syria will fall to western back Arab crazy militants and I don't care what sect they are--to me they are all rabid dogs. The Syrian government is doing what any Government would do and that is fight the militancy.

If countries helped the Syrian Government and stopped training, arming, and transporting the militants this proxy war against Syria would have been over.

Interesting how the West backs subservient Arab religious dictatorships but works to destroy secular Middle Eastern governments...

 

[Wholegrain]

@Wholegrain

Syria in 2014 = Afghanistan - still can be salvaged
Syria in 2016 = Somalia ( If no intervention takes place )

I agree about this, which is why a proper and disciplined fighting force should have to take charge in Syria to clean out Assad and ISIL, this is what Saudi Arabia is trying to do with training the army of FSA fighters in Jordan. A country of Syria's size would require a massive army, possibly over 200,000, and it will take years.

 

[acid rain]

@Wholegrain

Syria in 2014 = Afghanistan - still can be salvaged
Syria in 2016 = Somalia ( If no intervention takes place )

Intervention by whom? one cannot forget that even the US/UK backed away from attacking Syria even under extreme pressure from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.

 

[anonymus]

Cruise missiles can be launched from Turkey and Jordan on a TEL.

Technology is not the issue, if a GCC, Turkey and Pakistan put together a strike package , we have all of the weapons and tools needed to carry out SEAD and DEAD missions. We can also use the rebels to take out air defense sites using guided missiles.

If Russia supplies S-300 to Syria, it would rob you of any practical ability to conduct SEAD operations. Contrary to your previous bluster, Suicide UAV's and Subsonic Cruise missiles are not an option in suppressing S-300 class SAM's . They are lumbering targets which could be shot down by primitive tunguska. You cannot get away without suffering heavy damage.

 

[Arzamas 16]

They don't operate 5000 jets. As far as I can remember, I believe only 600 are active.

Most of the rest are obsolete anyhow.

Russian military is undergoing through massive rearmament, in 2013 alone Russian Air force received more fighter jets and helicopters than the whole of Europe put together

In 2013 we got

14 Su-34
14 Su-30SM
12 Su-35
4 Su-30M2
2 MIG-29K
2 MIG-29KUB
20 YAK-130
3 An-140-100
1 An-148-100
3 L410UVP-E20
1 Tu-214ON
14 Ka-52
14 Mi-28
8 Mi-35
4 Mi-26
53 Mi-8AMT-Sh
10 Mi-8MTV-5
6 Ansat-U


And here is something to chew on the numbers for 2014 will be even bigger, basically Russia is getting ready for WW3

Russia will NEVER enter Syria if a regional coalition attacks it.

Your regional coalition is nothing more than a wet dream, there is more chance of an Alien invasion of Earth tomorrow than that happening.

Simply put all this discussion is pointless

It simply doesn't have the political will to do so.

We have enough political will to stand with Assad for last 3 years, dispute all the bitching from West and Gulf Arabs

 

[A1Kaid]

Intervention by whom? one cannot forget that even the US/UK backed away from attacking Syria even under extreme pressure from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.

US backed away because Congress did not support unilateral action and in the UK the British parliament voted No to attacking Syria. Has little to do with Saudi Arabia...

 

[Kompromat]

If Russia supplies S-300 to Syria, it would rob you of any practical ability to conduct SEAD operations. Contrary to your previous bluster, Suicide UAV's and Subsonic Cruise missiles are not an option in suppressing S-300 class SAM's . They are lumbering targets which could be shot down by primitive tunguska. You cannot get away without suffering heavy damage.

S-300s are sitting ducks without an air force to protect them. They are not an invincible piece of equipment as you seemingly believe.

 

[acid rain]

US backed away because Congress did not support unilateral action and in the UK the British parliament voted No to attacking Syria. Has little to do with Saudi Arabia...

LOL, and you believed that?? nothing to do with Russia and China opposing any such action especially after Libya and moving their ships into Syrian waters??

And, the Saudi ministry crying themselves hoarse for American intervention??

Read up on what happened a month or two ago.

 

[A1Kaid]

LOL, and you believed that?? nothing to do with Russia and China opposing any such action especially after Libya and moving their ships into Syrian waters??

And, the Saudi ministry crying themselves hoarse for American intervention??

Read up on what happened a month or two ago.

Believed that? It's a matter of fact, the senior legislative branches had both disapproved of attacking Syria. Pres. Obama had wanted to conduct surgical strikes after the whole bs "chemical attack" case but Congress votes no. Whether Russian boats are in Mediterranean is just to act as a scare crow you don't really think Russia would sacrifice themselves for the sake of Syria? Voting No in UNSC is one thing but engaging US is another.

As for Saudis obviously they want US to intervene but you said in your previous post the Saudis told the Americans not to intervene, and I told you that wasn't the case. You need to read your original post and clarify your stance.

S-300s are sitting ducks without an air force to protect them. They are not an invincible piece of equipment as you seemingly believe.

Syria's Air Force is still potent and functioning carrying out daily strikes on rebel areas.

 

[Doritos11]

S-300s are sitting ducks without an air force to protect them. They are not an invincible piece of equipment as you seemingly believe.

Pantsir s1 is there to protect it, works well against cruis missiles