New Pictures of Sahand Frigate

[C130]

Only if you say so.

 

[Aramagedon]

Firstly America doesn't belong to our region. America belongs to American continent which is 10,000 kms further.

Secondly America has very little chance against Iran in Persian gulf and strait of hormuz. Because we are fighting in our own waters and land but America is fighting 10,000 further than its homeland. Iran has already targeted their ships with our radars and missiles. There is big difference.....

 

[Azeri440]

Firstly America doesn't belong to our region. America belongs to American continent which is 10,000 kms further.
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Secondly America has very little chance against Iran in Persian gulf and strait of hormuz. Because we are fighting in our own waters and land but America is fighting 10,000 further than its homeland.

You will be surprised by the massive size of American logistics capability
and this isn't 19th century warfare, Americans can park their ships way farther than Persian Gulf and still take out any target in Iran.

 

[Blue In Green]

the systems are good, but the craftsmanship of the ship looks poor. I understand sanctions and budget, and I'm sure follow up ships will be better, but it's got no chance against other navies in the region.

Fair assessment. I think that we can say with a good amount of certainty that the Iranian navy, whether it be IRGC or regular Iranian Navy won't rely on ship to ship combat when it comes to maritime warfare (it wouldn't make any sense given Irans other anti ship ballistic and cruise missile stockpile being as large and accurate as it is, that's the primary means of weaponry they would use).

These ships are for territory protection and anti piracy mainly (at least that's the vibe I've came to aspect from Iran naval forces).

But I would focus on Irans submarine force and speed boat fleet more than its frigates and cruisers. It has those in abundance.

Can someone clarify what the combat purpose of these ships will be?

By all indications none of these ships have any CIWS which renders them sitting ducks in my books, certainly the US Navy isn't losing sleeping at night over the Iranian frigated and cruisers (but are wary of submarines and massive missiles attacks, the only real detterent).

If I was chief of the armed forces, all the money on naval projects would go into submarines not surface ships.

 

[yavar]

but the craftsmanship of the ship looks poor.

say who ?? you ?? the ship hasn't finished yet and final product is not been revealed yet but you you already made up your mind . this shows how rational you are

but it's got no chance against other navies in the region.

U.S has no chance in persian gulf Oman sea Indian Ocean i can show you that .
anywhere else i agree

 

[Aramagedon]

and this isn't 19th century warfare, Americans can park their ships way farther than Persian Gulf and still take out any target in Iran.

A nice article:

The era of the US global sea dominance – ensured by its 10 giant aircraft carriers – may come to an end, a study by respected Washington-based think tank warns. Russia, China and Iran can make the mammoth vessels useless by new weapons, tech and tactics.

More: https://www.rt.com/usa/333356-us-aircraft-carriers-useless

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Iran Threats Americans: Go to the Bay of Pigs; The Persian Gulf Is Ours

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...n-tells-us-navy-go-bay-pigs-persian-gulf-ours

 

[Azeri440]

A nice article:

The era of the US global sea dominance – ensured by its 10 giant aircraft carriers – may come to an end, a study by respected Washington-based think tank warns. Russia, China and Iran can make the mammoth vessels useless by new weapons, tech and tactics.

More: https://www.rt.com/usa/333356-us-aircraft-carriers-useless

Lol.

the area denial capabilities mentioned in that article such as 200+ km range anti-ship missiles have existed for decades, Russians also had "carrier killer" missiles with a range of 600+ km for decades as well.

and like I pointed out, US navy can sit outside of danger zones and conduct its strike operations

 

[yavar]

By all indications none of these ships have any CIWS which renders them sitting ducks in my books,.

local made AK-630 30 mm naval CIWS gun
watch from 1:20

and like I pointed out, US navy can sit outside of danger zones and conduct its strike operations

what is danger zones ?? 500 KM or 1000 ??

 

[Azeri440]

what is danger zones ?? 500 KM or 1000 ??

lets say 300

 

[yavar]

lets say 300

you kidding me ?? 300 ?? where can U.S bee station in case of full scale war ?? which as you say outside danger zone ??

 

[Azeri440]

you kidding me ?? 300 ?? where can U.S bee station in case of full scale war ?? which as you say outside danger zone ??

oh I don't know, the ocean is vast, anywhere within the range of cruise missiles.

 

[yavar]

anywhere within the range of cruise missiles.

what is cuise missile ?? what reange which U.S can use ??i mean effective range??

oh I don't know, .

trust me i am not tryna be funny but you don't know what you talking about

 

[AmirPatriot]

looks very crude

Its not finished and it looks grimy from the ages it's been in port, so I'm not surprised you say that.

 

[Azeri440]

what is cuise missile ?? what reange which U.S can use ??i mean effective range??


trust me i am not tryna be funny but you don't know what you talking about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM

I don't know what I am talking about? Lol

you guys are saying US Navy has no chance against Iran in Persian Gulf, and I say US Navy can operate well out of Persian Gulf, and still conduct its operations.

 

[yavar]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158C_LRASM

under development
so this one is operational and out of picture

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)

the effective range of this one is 1000 KM .
so go have look where will be 1000 KM in Indian ocean . then you realize you talking nonsense . and then look of Iranian naval bases .