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Apparently the glock can't fire
You are cementing more and more the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about.
LOL, You're comparing a supposedly Military Grade (?!) Automatic (?!) Assault (?!) Rifle (?!) with a series of handguns and then telling me i have no idea what i'm talking about?Of-course he said this is the first complete prototype model and the rifle is still being worked on. It needs probably to been tested by military and we may see some small changes.
Well obviously you dont otherwise you would know that not only is polymer extensively used for things such as magazines,stocks,grips etc,but also we are now seeing lower receivers made out of polymer as well.Its pretty obvious that the iranian gun is clearly inspired to some degree by the FN Scar which as it happens also uses a polymer lower as well so it wouldnt be a surprise if the iranian one did too.
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The SCAR only uses polymer in lower receiver, the mockup that we have in here, some if it's main parts were created by a 3D printer.
The only main part,apart from the ancillaries that is,to be made from polymer would be the lower receiver as its pretty obvious,at least to my eyes at any rate,that the upper is made from metal and if thats metal then the barrel and piston are as well,in addition in this video you can clearly see the upper is metal and the guy holding it repeatedly cocks the weapon as well and you can clearly hear the sound of the internal components being actuated,which I doubt you would have in a plastic mock up.
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OK, here we go.
So much for the best weapon in the world....
Can you do an assessment of MPT-76 in the Turkish section ?
Just be nice to him, ok?
Aww!,you beat me to it Amir!.... and you say yourself that many guns have lower receiver made of polymer.
Go on, how is it? Looks almost if not exactly like a SCAR-H trigger.
Looks similar to a SCAR grip.
Not even part of the gun, it is an attachment that probably won't be used by most soldiers.
Are you looking at the same rifle as us? Can you point out how the Zolfaqar doesn't have a handguard?
1. It has a free floating barrel.
2. The guy said the barrel is not real for safety reasons (as he was just demonstrating it in a hall full of people).
He had his hand on the mag before he pressed the button. He probably just didn't want it to fall on the floor.
Show me where. I would think we can't tell if it is there or not from these pictures.
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Yeah you guys don't know what you are talking about...Aww!,you beat me to it Amir!.
I did have to laugh at the bending barrel claim,which for the life of me I cant see in the vid and even polymer likely wouldnt bend an inch,maybe rubber might tho`.[lol!]
And of course the screws are there just to retain the guard over the barrel and gas piston not the barrel itself as it is almost certainly free floating just like in the scar.
And heres a pic of the scar lower receiver and grip along with the zolfaqars,they certainly look quite a bit similar dont they?,so I guess the scar must have poor ergonomics as well,thats in addition to being a cheap ar15 copy too.
SCAR-H Trigger:
Here's AR-15 Grip:And heres a pic of the scar lower receiver and grip along with the zolfaqars,they certainly look quite a bit similar dont they?,so I guess the scar must have poor ergonomics as well,thats in addition to being a cheap ar15 copy too.
Nope
.Nopeso I guess the scar must have poor ergonomics as well,thats in addition to being a cheap ar15 copy too.
, Zolfaqar's grip is a cheap copy of AR-15 (Or SCAR) grip with poor ergonomics.Still doesn't change the fact that it is poorly designed, which means the designer team had no idea what they were doing.
What you see in these photos isn't a handguard, it's the upper receiver itself.
Still doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't use it in the first place (Unless if they want to use Zolfaqar as a sniper rifle), Probably they added offset iron sights to this mockup so it looks cool.
OMGI did have to laugh at the bending barrel claim,which for the life of me I cant see in the vid and even polymer likely wouldnt bend an inch,maybe rubber might tho`.[lol!]
And of course the screws are there just to retain the guard over the barrel and gas piston not the barrel itself as it is almost certainly free floating just like in the scar.
, You guys don't know what free-floating barrel means. Read & learn:This is how he justifies this fake barrel?! In fact if you think about it, it is probably one of the greatest con job in the history of weapons, considering they managed to fool the audience with this toy.
Now should i laugh?Aww!,you beat me to it Amir!.
I did have to laugh at the bending barrel claim,which for the life of me I cant see in the vid and even polymer likely wouldnt bend an inch,maybe rubber might tho`.[lol!]
And of course the screws are there just to retain the guard over the barrel and gas piston not the barrel itself as it is almost certainly free floating just like in the scar.
Yeah, but if you watch the video again. I don't know about you but it's clear to me that he had to eject the magazine by a little force which means the receiver isn't designed properly.
You can actually, the connecting rod is clearly missing.
What that picture suppose to mean?
Sure...
Yeah you guys don't know what you are talking about...
SCAR-H Trigger:
Comparing with this:
If you can't tell the difference, Then i can't really help you.
Here's AR-15 Grip:
Comparing with Zolfaqars Grip:
Also comparing scar and zolfaqars grips:
Now if you guys can't tell the difference, Then i can't really do anything about it.
Nope
Nope
Still doesn't change the fact that it is poorly designed, which means the designer team had no idea what they were doing.
What you see in these photos isn't a handguard, it's the upper receiver itself.
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/SCAR-Products-s/269.htm
Still doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't use it in the first place (Unless if they want to use Zolfaqar as a sniper rifle), Probably they added offset iron sights to this mockup so it looks cool.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/foghorn/ask-foghorn-what-are-offset-iron-sights-for/
OMG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-floating_barrel
A free-floating barrel is one in which the barrel and stock are designed to not touch at any point along the barrel's length. The barrel is attached to its receiver, which is attached to the stock, but the barrel "floats freely" without any contact with other gun parts, other than the rifle's sights. This minimizes the variance in possible mechanical pressure distortions of the barrel alignment, and allows vibration to occur at the natural frequency consistently and uniform shot-by-shot.
One might ask how does a free floating barrel improve accuracy over a non-free floating barrel?
This will be a somewhat condensed overview and sort of general but it works a little like this. When things (for example the fore stock) are touching the barrel there are a few variables that can effect accuracy. There is external pressure applied to the barrel, barrel movement such as harmonics and vibrations and there is the heating and cooling of the barrel. The idea behind free floating a barrel is to try and control or eliminate the variables that will effect barrel accuracy. There has also been no shortage of "gizmos" over the years to control the variables that effect accuracy. The Browning barrel Boss comes to mind for controlling harmonics and there were several screw devices installed in the fore stock to apply a pressure point on the barrel.
So what we do is look at the variables that control or effect accuracy of the barrel and try to eliminate or minimize as many as possible. The lighter "pencil" barrels on sporting hunting rifles are more prone to the mentioned variables than the heavy long range target barrels but all barrels are effected. Barrel length also figures into the scheme in that shorter barrels are effected to a lesser extent than longer barrels. This does not even begin to cover the differences between bolt guns and semi-automatic gas operated guns. So it's all about improving accuracy.
So long story short, When a barrel is "free floating", it doesn't mean that you can give it a misalignment with barely touching it's tip. And fun fact number 2, this rifle can't really be "free floating", considering it uses a short stroke gas piston operating system.
This is how he justifies this fake barrel?! In fact if you think about it, it is probably one of the greatest con job in the history of weapons, considering they managed to fool the audience with this toy.
Now should i laugh?
Yeah, but if you watch the video again. I don't know about you but it's clear to me that he had to eject the magazine by a little force which means the receiver isn't designed properly.
You can actually, the connecting rod is clearly missing.
What that picture suppose to mean?
Sure...
My god,such a huge post and virtually all of it without any redeeming value what so ever,some people appear to have a lot of idle time on their hands it seems.Yeah you guys don't know what you are talking about...
SCAR-H Trigger:
Comparing with this:
If you can't tell the difference, Then i can't really help you.
Here's AR-15 Grip:
Comparing with Zolfaqars Grip:
Also comparing scar and zolfaqars grips:
Now if you guys can't tell the difference, Then i can't really do anything about it.
Nope
Nope
Still doesn't change the fact that it is poorly designed, which means the designer team had no idea what they were doing.
What you see in these photos isn't a handguard, it's the upper receiver itself.
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/SCAR-Products-s/269.htm
Still doesn't change the fact that they shouldn't use it in the first place (Unless if they want to use Zolfaqar as a sniper rifle), Probably they added offset iron sights to this mockup so it looks cool.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/01/foghorn/ask-foghorn-what-are-offset-iron-sights-for/
OMG
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-floating_barrel
A free-floating barrel is one in which the barrel and stock are designed to not touch at any point along the barrel's length. The barrel is attached to its receiver, which is attached to the stock, but the barrel "floats freely" without any contact with other gun parts, other than the rifle's sights. This minimizes the variance in possible mechanical pressure distortions of the barrel alignment, and allows vibration to occur at the natural frequency consistently and uniform shot-by-shot.
One might ask how does a free floating barrel improve accuracy over a non-free floating barrel?
This will be a somewhat condensed overview and sort of general but it works a little like this. When things (for example the fore stock) are touching the barrel there are a few variables that can effect accuracy. There is external pressure applied to the barrel, barrel movement such as harmonics and vibrations and there is the heating and cooling of the barrel. The idea behind free floating a barrel is to try and control or eliminate the variables that will effect barrel accuracy. There has also been no shortage of "gizmos" over the years to control the variables that effect accuracy. The Browning barrel Boss comes to mind for controlling harmonics and there were several screw devices installed in the fore stock to apply a pressure point on the barrel.
So what we do is look at the variables that control or effect accuracy of the barrel and try to eliminate or minimize as many as possible. The lighter "pencil" barrels on sporting hunting rifles are more prone to the mentioned variables than the heavy long range target barrels but all barrels are effected. Barrel length also figures into the scheme in that shorter barrels are effected to a lesser extent than longer barrels. This does not even begin to cover the differences between bolt guns and semi-automatic gas operated guns. So it's all about improving accuracy.
So long story short, When a barrel is "free floating", it doesn't mean that you can give it a misalignment with barely touching it's tip. And fun fact number 2, this rifle can't really be "free floating", considering it uses a short stroke gas piston operating system.
This is how he justifies this fake barrel?! In fact if you think about it, it is probably one of the greatest con job in the history of weapons, considering they managed to fool the audience with this toy.
Now should i laugh?
Yeah, but if you watch the video again. I don't know about you but it's clear to me that he had to eject the magazine by a little force which means the receiver isn't designed properly.
You can actually, the connecting rod is clearly missing.
What that picture suppose to mean?
Sure...
See?,that wasnt so hard now was it?,altho if the zolfaqars ergonomics are "poor" then doesnt that also follow that the ar15 and scars would be too then?,I think you might have a fair few people,not just me and amir,disputing you on that one,but thats just my opinion.
Actually I do and frankly I`m more than a little amazed that you felt the necessity to post not only the wiki link but in addition 2 separate videos as well as 15 lines too.However despite all that your only points seemed to be:OMG
For a start I never claimed "that you can give it [the barrel] a misalignment with barely touching it's tip",you claimed that you saw this in the unveiling video,yet no matter how hard I studied the sequence in question I never saw any evidence of barrel deflection and as I in fact said in a previous post even a polymer barrel wouldnt deflect that much.
Well basically I would think that the simple fact that you dont see any connecting rod is because......there isnt one!!,the piston itself just hits the carrier group back, and cycles the weapon,well thats how it works in the scar anyway and I see no reason why the zolfaqar doesnt work exactly the same way considering how many other features it has borrowed from the scar.
I would imagine these are simple good old magazine witness holes so at a quick glance one can get an idea of how much ammo one has left in ones clip,you often see them on the side or the rear of the mag tho a better solution would be to use a see-thru/translucent polymer window or for the entire mag itself.
Quite right BIG2 I couldnt agree more,well said.
