New Greece government stands up for Russia against the EU

[Superboy]

Tsipras lives in a fantasy world, Greece lives on the Germans credit card for years demand the EU saves them when they cant pay the bill.
Then Demand the EU re-negotiates the payments that were going to be paid and the day before the negotiations piss in the Germans beer.

If you want to become Soviet Greece and leave the EU fine the door is that way

The EU donate billions to Ukraine. The EU is just as corrupt as the US, printing however much money they want, loaning money to Greece to try enslave Greece. Enough. Greece will leave the EU and be free.

Germans think they are so great. They be living in huts had it not been Archimedes, Pythagoras, Euclides, Diophantus, Erastothenes, Thales.

 

[vostok]

Its was Kievan Rus, a Ukrainian kingdom that ruled this area. After the Mongol invasion it was destroyed adn norther Muscovite kingdome rose. Siberia and Caucasia were not part of Russia five hundred years ago.

What "Ukrainian kingdom"??? "Ukraine" - it means "land near border", "frontier". This is a common name. So were called all borderlands, even in Siberia. Until 1917, the inhabitants of the south-western Russia (now - Ukraine) were called Little Russians, and the local dialect considered a dialect of Russian.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Germans think they are so great. They be living in huts had it not been Archimedes, Pythagoras, Euclides, Diophantus, Erastothenes, Thales.

Ancient Hellenes created Hellenic civilization 2500 years ago but today Greeks are both morally and financially bankrupt. I don't care if you were a millionaire 25 years ago but today you are a pauper living on charity of others.

 

[atatwolf]

Greeks are over-playing their hand. They don't have leverage to play politics so sharply. For the average Greek family's sake they should act more wisely. EU's patience is not endless. If Greece get's the boot, the real catastrophe would begin and the current crises in Greece would look like a walk in the park compared to that.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Until 1917, the inhabitants of the south-western Russia (now - Ukraine) were called Little Russians, and the local dialect considered a dialect of Russian.

The Ukrainian have developed their own culture and want independence of their country. Russians created Holodomor a artificial famine in Ukraine starting in 1932 that killed nearly 10 million Ukrainians. Now Russian invades Ukraine illegally annexes Crimea and created Donetsk rebellion with Russian soldiers fighting in rebel uniforms. That is not Slavic brotherhood but rather imperialism. Thanks to Russian actions Ukrainians now consider themselves more European and are joining their national Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

 

[vostok]

The Ukrainian have developed their own culture and want independence of their country. Russians created Holodomor a artificial famine in Ukraine starting in 1932 that killed nearly 10 million Ukrainians. Now Russian invades Ukraine illegally annexes Crimea and created Donetsk rebellion with Russian soldiers fighting in rebel uniforms. That is not Slavic brotherhood but rather imperialism. Thanks to Russian actions Ukrainians now consider themselves more European and are joining their national Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Tales of Western propaganda. It's not so. Ukrainian and Russian - one nation, before the 1917 revolution Russian were called Great-Russians and Ukrainian - Little-Russians.
There was no Holodomor. There was a famine. And it was all over the country, not only in Ukraine. The famine was due to the fact that the West refused to take payment for machines and technology in gold, wood, metal, and agreed to accept payment only in the grain.
Starved to death 2-3 million across the whole country, not only in Ukraine.
After West backed coup d'etat, therefore, the state of Ukraine, which existed from 1991 ceased to exist. People in some regions proclaimed policy of integration with Russia. Only the people, and none other can be the carrier of sovereignty. If the people of Crimea wants to reunite with Russia - it's legal. If the people of New Russia wants to reunite with Russia - it's legal.
lllegall is to seize power in the country, and then send the army to kill dissidents.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Before WW I there were many empires: British, French, Romanov, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, etc and many nations were forced to live under their rule. Ukrainian were under Russian yoke and Stalin created a artificial famine to kill of Ukrainian nationalism by killing its intelligentsia. What about people of Chechnya ? They never had right of self determination ? Russian army killed 25% of Chechens.

 

[Superboy]

What about people of Chechnya ? They never had right of self determination ? Russian army killed 25% of Chechens.

Same thing applies to Catalans and Sami. Why are Catalans and Sami not allowed to have their own countries?

 

[jhungary]

Same thing applies to Catalans and Sami. Why are Catalans and Sami not allowed to have their own countries?

Why @Superboy did not have his own nation??

 

[Superboy]

Why @Superboy did not have his own nation??

I do have. I am Han and Hans have their own country which is called China.

 

[vostok]

Before WW I there were many empires: British, French, Romanov, Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, etc and many nations were forced to live under their rule. Ukrainian were under Russian yoke and Stalin created a artificial famine to kill of Ukrainian nationalism by killing its intelligentsia. What about people of Chechnya ? They never had right of self determination ? Russian army killed 25% of Chechens.

First - it was the Russian Empire, not the Romanov empire. Second - never Ukrainians were under the yoke of the Russian Empire, because Ukrainians were considered Russians (as it is). Therefore, Ukrainians occupied the highest positions in the state - even Chancellor, that is the second man after the Tsar.
Of the seven leaders of the USSR, three were from Ukraine, two - ethnic Ukrainians.
About famine I have already explained. It was the industrialization of the USSR bought machines and technology from West. However, the West refused to accept payment in gold and wanted payment in the grain. USSR had to give up almost all stocks of grain, which is why there was a famine in the country. Throughout the country, not only in Ukraine.

 

[atatwolf]

First - it was the Russian Empire, not the Romanov empire. Second - never Ukrainians were under the yoke of the Russian Empire, because Ukrainians were considered Russians (as it is). Therefore, Ukrainians occupied the highest positions in the state - even Chancellor, that is the second man after the Tsar.
Of the seven leaders of the USSR, three were from Ukraine, two - ethnic Ukrainians.
About famine I have already explained. It was the industrialization of the USSR bought machines and technology from West. However, the West refused to accept payment in gold and wanted payment in the grain. USSR had to give up almost all stocks of grain, which is why there was a famine in the country. Throughout the country, not only in Ukraine.

Ukrainians are not ethnic Russian, same way Azerbaijan is not ethnic Russian. Time to accept this.

 

[vostok]

Ukrainians are not ethnic Russian, same way Azerbaijan is not ethnic Russian. Time to accept this.

If Ukrainians - not Russian, then Azerbaijanis - not Turks.

 

[atatwolf]

If Ukrainians - not Russian, then Azerbaijanis - not Turks.

I don't claim otherwise. Azerbaijani are Turkic, that is something different. Ukranians are slavic but not Russian.

 

[vostok]

I don't claim otherwise. Azerbaijani are Turkic, that is something different. Ukranians are slavic but not Russian.

You know how the title of Russian Tsars sounded? It started - "Tsar of all the Great, Little and White Russia".
Little Russia - this is the real name of Ukraine. I think in the coming years justice will be restored and this land and this people will return their real name.
Because "Ukraine" - is not an ethnic name, it is place name (means - "bordelands"), and ethnic name - "Little Russia".