New confessions force India to reflect on anti-Muslim bias

[toxic_pus]

But they've made no attempt to present any evidence and indict Pakistan, which is my point. I know that the bharati state has made such accusations.

A State can't be indicted. Representatives of State are indicted on its behalf. Various State agencies represent the State.

I don't recall any article in international that was accusing ISI of Mumbai attacks. In fact the only accusation from outside bharat I recall was from Bob Woodward, who also said that Iraq had WMDs "200%". There have been articles that accuse ISI of supporting Taliban, but they've been backed by very weak evidence. Mere articles themselves do not amount to evidence, so I am not wrong.

Keep raising strawmen.

 

[toxic_pus]

There is of course now the famous case in the U.S. against the ISI. Lets wait & watch how that turns out. As for your recollection of the international media suggesting these are mere allegations & not facts, I'm afraid you are wrong.

Unfortunately, nothing will come out of that case. Nobody from Pakistan will ever give deposition there and Daood's admissions will not be presented to the Court. It will be an ex parte case.

 

[SMC]

I will quote myself, if you please.


Which part of it did you not understand?

Dossier after dossier were sent to GoP narrating how Pakistani state agencies directly collaborated with LeT, in general and Mumbai incident, in particular, confirmed by Daood Gilani's damning admission in US, in presence of US security agencies and his own lawyer, but now, we are being told that 'bharati' State didn't even 'attempt to provide any evidence that shows that the Pakistani state was involved in the attack.'

It doesn't get any more comical than this.

Do you actually know that the dossiers provided contained evidence of LeT's involvement? They contained absolutely nothing on Pakistani state agencies' involvement. Perhaps this is the reason why you've been talking bullshit for the last 2 pages. Either you're misinformed, or you've read something incorrectly, or have deluded yourself into believing that the dossiers contained that information.

 

[SMC]

If Headley's statement only remain within the prison cell (as they've been pretty much for what, more than a year now?) and are not presented either by Indian government or American government into the media through a press conference or to the Pakistani state then nothing can be done about this except to say that the statements from Headley were not sufficient evidence even for the Indian or American government, much less anyone else.

 

[toxic_pus]

Do you actually know that the dossiers provided contained evidence of LeT's involvement? They contained absolutely nothing on Pakistani state agencies' involvement. Perhaps this is the reason why you've been talking bullshit for the last 2 pages. Either you're misinformed, or you've read something incorrectly, or have deluded yourself into believing that the dossiers contained that information.

Law 101 someone?

EDIT: I believe, it was a Pakistani dossier that confirmed involvement of LeT.

 

[Vinod2070]

LeT is an ISI sponsored organization. No one really doubts it.

 

[toxic_pus]

If Headley's statement only remain within the prison cell (as they've been pretty much for what, more than a year now?) and are not presented either by Indian government or American government into the media through a press conference or to the Pakistani state then nothing can be done about this except to say that the statements from Headley were not sufficient evidence even for the Indian or American government, much less anyone else.

Headley's confessions were all shared in details with GoP. Americans went ballistic when some of his revelations were leaked in Indian media.

 

[LaBong]

It's only but normal for investigation agencies to apprehend the Muslims as prima facie, as many Islamic religious groups were involved in bombing crowded places in past and they made their involvement in terrorist/freedom fighting activity no secret to anyone. However it's commendable job by the investigation agencies to unearth the actual(alleged) criminals. Let's not forget Aseemananda reached enlightenment only after being grilled in jail.

 

[SMC]

LeT is an ISI sponsored organization. No one really doubts it.

Well there was little doubt that Iraq had WMDs too. Believing something means little.

Edit: By "no one", do you really mean no one or just Indians and perhaps some sections of the western world?

Time and time again Indian's saying that "the whole world" thinks like X or "the whole world" doesn't agree with Y. I have to remind them everytime that they need to have a good look at what they're referring to as "the whole world"

 

[Vinod2070]

Well there was little doubt that Iraq had WMDs too. Believing something means little.

Edit: By "no one", do you really mean no one or just Indians and perhaps some sections of the western world?

Time and time again Indian's saying that "the whole world" thinks like X or "the whole world" doesn't agree with Y. I have to remind them everytime that they need to have a good look at what they're referring to as "the whole world"

I mean every one who has his eyes open.

There are many Pakistani commentators who have been saying the same thing and the effect it has had on Pakistan itself.

Frankly, I see no need to try and dig up all that. It is so common, your own commentators acknowledge it every other day.

 

[SMC]

So someone who disagrees with the view has their eyes closed? Well in that case, anyone who has their eyes open knows that US supports terrorism across the whole and India supports terrorism in Pakistan. Listen, such claims that you made are empty without any evidence.

As far as Pakistani commentators are concerned, well I've seen many Indians admitting that their government could be involved in Balochistan. In Pakistan in particular, there's a lot of ultra-liberal anti-state commentators, infinitely more than India. So just because they say that, it doesn't mean sh*t.

 

[LaBong]

Edit: By "no one", do you really mean no one or just Indians and perhaps some sections of the western world?

Time and time again Indian's saying that "the whole world" thinks like X or "the whole world" doesn't agree with Y. I have to remind them everytime that they need to have a good look at what they're referring to as "the whole world"

Indians and west are concerned because they are at the receiving end of LET. Why would a Nicaraguan or Kiwi care about LET which is an non-entity in their daily life.

 

[SMC]

Indians and wets are concerned because they are at the receiving end of LET. Why would a Nicaraguan or Kiwi care about LET which is an non-entity in their daily life.

That's not the point. Indians suggest that the whole world agrees with them. My point is relating to that.

 

[LaBong]

That's not the point. Indians suggest that the whole world agrees with them. My point is relating to that.

In context of LET the world equates India and West. Those countries who are not involved simply don't care.

 

[RazorMC]

From some of the posts above, it would seem that the world always believes what India says.
Who constitutes the world for India anyway?

Techincally, Canada is also part of the West and remember what they said about someone from India regarding the whole Visa issue?

I've seen many reports about the world being certain that Pakistan is involved with the LeT, but somehow all those articles turn out to be written by an Indian. Does India truly consider itself as the world?