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We may not agree with all he says but he is right about the so-called pakistan experts....

Neo-cons have it wrong on Pakistan
By Najum Mushtaq

Just as a flicker of hope emerged to bring back elected civilian rule to Pakistan, the ideological warriors of neo-conservatism are up in arms to douse it. Having supported President Pervez Musharraf as the stalwart general in America's "war on terror", US neo-conservatives are panic-stricken at the prospect of his political demise. No sooner did he decide to relinquish his army post to become a civilian president last week, than fear of Pakistan's collapse and of loose nuclear weapons gripped Musharraf's backers in the United States.

Neo-conservative analysts are hatching plans to raid the country and nick the nukes before it sinks into chaos. Others, less inclined to use the military option just now, have come up with puerile analyses of how a "Westernized core" of the military and Pakistani civil society can be used to thwart the worst-case scenario of Islamists taking over the country and, with it, the dreaded weapons.

An exasperated Charles Krauthammer attempts to untie Pakistan's "tangled knots" and wonders, "What is America to do about Pakistan?" He mumbles through an ill-informed analysis of a post-Musharraf Pakistan, where he says, "Islamic barbarians are at the gates". Frederick Kagan, a leading light at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), and Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, foresee Pakistan's collapse and propose two fantastic methods of direct military intervention to secure the country's nuclear arsenal, which should ideally be shipped to "someplace like New Mexico". (Why New Mexico? Because "given the degree to which Pakistani nationalists cherish these assets, it is unlikely the United States would get permission to destroy them" in Pakistan.)

And speaking at an AEI forum to launch his new book, Surrender is Not an Option, former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton described the security of the Pakistani nuclear arsenal as "the principal American strategic interest". Conceding that the Pakistani president "is no Jeffersonian democrat", Bolton insisted: "We should support Musharraf. His control of the army is most likely to hold the nuclear arsenal in a secure place."

Three basic assumptions underpin these writers' opinion that Pakistan's nuclear arsenal is in jeopardy. One, that Pakistan without Musharraf and the military at the helm is bound to disintegrate and likely to be taken over by Islamic extremists. Two, that Pakistan's polity consists of three active factions: the Taliban-like religious zealots, and "the two most Westernized, most modernizing elements of Pakistani society - the army ... and the elite of civil society, including lawyers, jurists, journalists and students", as Krauthammer puts it, also asserting that the Taliban "are waiting to pick up the pieces from the civil war developing between" the last two elements.

The third, equally ill-founded premise of the neo-con view of Pakistan is that military intervention by the United States and its allies would not only ensure security of the nuclear arsenal, but also help the military "hold the country's center" - Islamabad and populous areas like Punjab - in Kagan and O'Hanlon's words.

Let's take these three assumptions one by one and see if these Pakistan "experts" have any contact with the reality of the country whose future they would shape.

The myth of barbarians at the gates
The argument pushed by Bolton and others that if not for Musharraf and the military, Pakistan would have fallen into the hands of al-Qaeda and the Taliban, is a beaten, much repudiated idea. Nothing displays the neo-cons' ignorance of Pakistani society and politics more clearly than this drummed-up fear.

Facts point in the opposite direction. It is under military rule like Musharraf's that militants gain ground and prominence. Whenever the people of Pakistan have had the opportunity to express their will, they have voted overwhelmingly for mainstream political parties, and they are likely to do so again in January 2008, when the next general elections are scheduled to be held.

Pakistan's religious parties are bitterly divided along sectarian lines. Furthermore, practitioners of Islam in Pakistan, as indeed elsewhere in the world, are not a homogenous, monolithic entity. The Taliban represent a marginal group within a minority Sunni sect. The clergy of the rest of the Muslim sects are as staunch in their opposition to the Taliban as they are anti-America.

Even when they are united - as they were under the banner of the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) in the 2002 elections - they could not bag more than 11% of the total vote. The electorate has always chosen parties like the Pakistan People's Party of Benazir Bhutto, the Muslim League of Nawaz Sharif and other regional parties - none of whom are religious extremists or pro-militancy.

It is true that incidents of terrorism and the power of the sharia movement have increased during the eight years of the Musharraf regime. But still, religious extremism remains on the fringes of both Pakistani society and polity. There are pockets of support for the Taliban in the Pashtun tribal areas, but even there, if and when elections have been held, traditional tribal elders or moderate (relative to the Taliban) religious leaders win. The best bet to countering the Taliban and extremism in general is continued elected civilian rule, not protracted dictatorship of the generals.

Few other countries have suffered more at the hands of religious terrorists than Pakistan. Yet, the people have refused to succumb to the threat. Nor have they been forced into subscribing to the extremist ideology of al-Qaeda. But instead of investing in the democratic process and waiting for the Muslim electorate of Pakistan to give its verdict on what kind of government it wants, impatient neo-conservatives are rushing to conclude that without the military in power, the country will slide into an abyss and fall apart. If Washington wants to see a stable Pakistan, it must not
lose sight of the fact that instability has grown during Musharraf's rule. More of Musharraf and his generals will bring more of the same.

Fallacious faultlines
Another insult to common sense and to Pakistani citizens' intelligence is Krauthammer's three-way distribution of the country's body politic. His biased neo-con perception sees in Pakistan, on one side, the Taliban, and on the other, two "Westernized" groups of the military and civil society. Appearing on Fox News in early November, he stated this view: "The catastrophe is that the two Westernized elements are now attacking each other as the Islamists sit and watch and wait to either attack or cause chaos or take more terrorism action." Neat and simple, but also dangerously naive.

As mentioned above, not all religious parties and Muslim sects are pro-Taliban. And very few of the so-called core of the military and elite civil society are Westernized. In fact, calling the military an agent of Westernization and modernization, as Krauthammer does, is risible. Has he forgotten the Ronald Reagan-era Pakistan policy of the United States?

The military had gone through a long process of Islamization under the previous Republican-sponsored military regime of General Zia ul-Haq. And the military remains an Islamized institution. Superficial changes and unpopular policy somersaults by Musharraf have done little to reduce the impact of that indoctrination. Religion is the main motivation of the soldiery. In any case, the military's institutional and corporate interests remain paramount and trump any ideological consideration, which is why it had first orchestrated an Islamic jihad in Afghanistan in the 1980s and was then able to do a volte-face under Musharraf. It is the generals' appetite for power and control over civil institutions that dictates the military's alignment with the United States. What the military ought to be doing in the wake of Musharraf's abdication from his army post is returning to the barracks under a semblance of subservience to civilian control.

Even among the civil society of journalists, students, lawyers, politicians and non-governmental organizations, Islamic-minded people are heavily represented. It is, after all, a Muslim-majority country. To label all the protesting lawyers, journalists and students under the heading of "Westernized, modern" segments of society is the ultimate intellectual lethargy. These Pakistanis' protests against Musharraf are not motivated by ideals of a Western-like liberalization or by a desire to see an unbridled wave of modernity. It is the denial of political freedom, the purging of the judiciary and the suppression of freedom of expression that have caused them to retaliate against Musharraf.

To equate that with a movement for Westernization and modernization is to ignore the diversity within Pakistan's civil society. There are many more ethnic, sectarian, political and cultural faultlines that run through Pakistani society. The best way to manage that diversity is through democratic means. But those who have President George W Bush's ear are itching for military action, whether by backing Pakistani generals or direct US military intervention - or both.

Mad military methods
The neo-conservative position on Pakistan is redolent of the Cold War times when Washington had supported another military dictator, Zia ul-Haq. As Krauthammer puts it: "The logic [of backing dictators] was simple: The available and likely alternative - ie communists - would be worse." Replace "communists" with "terrorists" and you have the crux of the neo-con ideology exposed for what it really is: fear-mongering to conjure up excuses for exhibition of US military power.

Failing to learn from the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, analysts like Kagan and O'Hanlon would have Washington embroiled in another potentially catastrophic military mission in Pakistan. "One possible plan would be a Special Forces operation with the limited goal of preventing Pakistan's nuclear materials and warheads from getting into the wrong hands. Somehow, American forces would have to team with Pakistanis to secure critical sites and possibly to move the material to a safer place," suggest Kagan and O'Hanlon.

They also have another alternative: "So, if we got a large number of troops into the country, what would they do? The most likely directive would be to help Pakistan's military and security forces hold the country's center - primarily the region around the capital, Islamabad, and the populous areas like Punjab province to its south ... Pro-American moderates could well win a fight against extremist sympathizers on their own. But they might need help if splinter forces or radical Islamists took control of parts of the country containing crucial nuclear materials. The task of retaking any such regions and reclaiming custody of any nuclear weapons would be a priority for our troops."

So fixated are these analysts on a military solution to every problem that the normal procedures of ensuring nuclear weapons do not even cross their minds. The answer to these fears is not a military invasion of Pakistan, which will pitch the entire population and the military against US forces. What is needed is a better structured, more transparent, well-codified command and control system. Pakistan's nuclear arsenal has been under military control; civilian political leadership, even when in power, has been kept out of the nuclear loop. This needs to change. The command and control structure can be further improved by introducing more openness into the process. Whatever civilian government Pakistan gets after the January 2008 elections, it should be given a say in managing the country's nuclear assets.

America and the rest of the international community ought to intervene in Pakistan, but not for the wrong reasons, and certainly not through military means. Musharraf and the military must be put under pressure to ensure genuine, credible elections in January.

Military aid and other perks for military officers such as training, joint exercises and academic courses should be made contingent on continuity of a democratic process. The new generation of post-Musharraf generals will have to learn to live under civilian leaders, despite the flaws of the politicians. Instituting democracy and a culture of civilian supremacy is a long haul and will take decades of uninterrupted electoral exercise and peaceful transitions of power. But the alternative to this, in the name of stability, antiterrorism, and nuclear safekeeping, would spell disaster for Pakistan as well as for global security.

Najum Mushtaq is a project director at the Pak Institute for Peace Studies and a contributor to IRC's Right Web.
 
Fatman17.
These assessments about Pakistani nukes falling into the wrong hands is nothing more than gossip mongering to achieve certain aims. Nothing that we say will ever be good enough to these self styled analysts, who are harping the same tune. I say let them try. All we have to do is to stop Petrol flowing into Afghanistan and ask our guests to take a hike, and all misadventurous thoughts would subside in no time.
I dont think for a minute that we should get confrontational, but show them, that we do have a mind of our own and will do things our way.Unfortunately we have licked their
A## so many times that they have forgotten that we have balls as well. Its time we made our position clear for all to see, in a very friendly and courtious manner of course.
WaSalam
Araz
 
Fatman17.
These assessments about Pakistani nukes falling into the wrong hands is nothing more than gossip mongering to achieve certain aims. Nothing that we say will ever be good enough to these self styled analysts, who are harping the same tune. I say let them try. All we have to do is to stop Petrol flowing into Afghanistan and ask our guests to take a hike, and all misadventurous thoughts would subside in no time.
I dont think for a minute that we should get confrontational, but show them, that we do have a mind of our own and will do things our way.Unfortunately we have licked their
A## so many times that they have forgotten that we have balls as well. Its time we made our position clear for all to see, in a very friendly and courtious manner of course.
WaSalam
Araz

Dear Araz
I couldnt agree more
Gung-HO!
 
WASHINGTON, Dec 3: While the Foreign Office in Islamabad is busy denying US media’s claim that religious extremists are about to grab Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, an official Pakistani delegation currently visiting the United States is busy reinforcing such fears.

Islamabad has sent three special envoys – Nasim Ashraf, Mohammad Ali Saif and Kashmala Tariq – to convince the Americans that they should continue supporting the Musharraf government as they did before the imposition of emergency on Nov 3.

(we will do any thing and i mean any thing to stay in power.):rofl:

Mr Ashraf, a US-based physician before picked by the Musharraf regime to oversee social development and then turned into cricket tsar, leads the delegation because of his perceived or real influences in the United States.

Other two – a lawyer and a former parliamentarian – have been selected because they are considered eloquent advocates of the government’s policies, including the state of emergency.

Their arrival in the United States coincided with a media campaign claiming that the current political instability in Pakistan also has created doubts about Islamabad’s ability to guard its nuclear weapons.

According to sources in the US media and academia, at more than one meetings, the delegation used the nuclear bogey to scare the Americans into supporting the Musharraf government.

At one such meeting with the officials of the Asia Society in New York, the delegation blamed the former chief justice and other judges of the Supreme Court for releasing 61 top terrorists.

All these terrorists, the delegation claimed, had links to Al Qaeda and were capable of not only capturing nuclear weapons but also of successfully installing an Islamist government in Islamabad.

Such claims do get a sympathetic hearing in the United States, particularly in Washington’s officials circles where there is a strong aversion to the suggestion that the sacked judges be restored.

Washington, like the members of the delegation, blames them for releasing suspected terrorists and does not want them back.

The delegation members, however, were cornered when some Asia Society officials urged them to hand over a list of these terrorists to US officials so that they could keep a watch on them.

And on Monday, the US media quoted former prime minister Benazir Bhutto as saying that religious militants could take control of the country’s nuclear weapons if the situation worsened.

“Whatever is happening in Swat and the tribal area today that can come to Islamabad tomorrow,” she said. The world “will not look on as spectators if Kahuta falls into their hands”.

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WASHINGTON, Dec 3: And on Monday, the US media quoted former prime minister Benazir Bhutto as saying that religious militants could take control of the country’s nuclear weapons if the situation worsened.

“Whatever is happening in Swat and the tribal area today that can come to Islamabad tomorrow,” she said. The world “will not look on as spectators if Kahuta falls into their hands”.

http://www.dawn.com/2007/12/04/top9.htm[/URL



1.do u for one second really believe what BB is blabbering about. she is changing her position on any topic on a daily basis.(e.g: we will contest elections, then we will not)
2. no harm in sending people to the usa to really tell the powers to be what the ground realities are.
 
WASHINGTON, Dec 3: While the Foreign Office in Islamabad is busy denying US media’s claim that religious extremists are about to grab Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, an official Pakistani delegation currently visiting the United States is busy reinforcing such fears.

Islamabad has sent three special envoys – Nasim Ashraf, Mohammad Ali Saif and Kashmala Tariq – to convince the Americans that they should continue supporting the Musharraf government as they did before the imposition of emergency on Nov 3.

(we will do any thing and i mean any thing to stay in power.):rofl:
The Asia Society and the Council of Foreign relations ("Indian Mafia") hosted a symposium with the abovementioned people last Friday. I somehow got myself on the invitation but then couldn't make it because of other committments :hitwall:

It should be known that Benazir has also been aggresively campaigning here in the US. I don't know why, but the Indian diaspora seems to be one of their designated target. Not really sure why.
 
It should be known that Benazir has also been aggresively campaigning here in the US. I don't know why, but the Indian diaspora seems to be one of their designated target. Not really sure why.

It's an intelligent move on her part - she realizes the clout of the Indian community within both the US and the UK, and is cognizant of the growing warmth between the US and India in particular - this has been one of her high profile and highly publicized "campaign" issues, at least while she was outside Pakistan and meant for an audience not on Pakistani shores.

The idea behind this being that a "leader" promising "normalization" with India would be someone the West would throw their weight behind completely. By making nice with India, it also reduces the primary justification for Pakistan's nuclear program and, for some commentators, the desire to continue "supporting AQ and the Taliban on the side" as a buffer to a potential Indian pincer move in Afghanistan, which of course would make the US's job in that part of the world so much easier(not suggesting that I agree with that view). By reaching out to the Indian diaspora, she is attempting to solidify that sentiment.

Musahrraf has been doing something similar in engaging the American Jewish community and Israeli leaders - except that his efforts come across as sincere since he took those initiatives from a position of power, and reflect a paradigm shift in the position and views of the military leadership towards Israel. Of course the fact that Musharraf's moves occurred with the backing of the military ensures that there is some substance and chance for success in them.

BB's manifesto and 'agenda" to me seem to be pointing to a road well traveled by her, were she to come into power with a large majority.
 
Musharraf is hot on her heels. I just spoke with an acquaintance who attended the symposium which was clearly designed to out-do Benazir's.

BB during her summer visit made all the promises as you mentioned above and also made references to her two rivals (Musharraf and Nawaz) being the architects of Kargil.

This time around Musharraf's team stressed on their improved performance in reigning in militancy in Kashmir; blamed Nawaz for Kargil, and reminded Benazir's support for the '89 insurgency in Kashmir (which they curbed in 2002, thereby fixing her mess). Normalizing relations, trade, tourism and education exchanges were also discussed. And of course they matched BB's intended future niceties.

I don't know how much influence the Indian diaspora really has... But if they do, then IMO Musharraf might have a slight lead given that his presentation was the latest one, and the fact that he has factual evidence pointing towards his reformed post-Kargil attitude towards India by his bringing down cross border terrorism in Kashmir down significantly (a point reinforced by his team).

Based on your post I can see where Benazir and now Musharraf are going with their courting of the Indian diaspora, but what are the benefits of courting the Israelis/Jews? Wouldn't that put him in a more compromising position in the eyes of the people if he is seen collaborating with or being subservient to not just one, but two enemies?
 
I must say I'm jealous of your invitation, though being in the middle of finals I suppose I wouldn't have had the time to go anyway (sour grapes...). It would have been nice to get your first hand opinions as well, but looks like you have gotten a decent picture from your acquaintance.

I think the idea of moving closer to accepting Israel makes perfect sense from a geo-political standpoint, though any major concessions before a resolution of the Palestine issue will not play very well domestically, as you pointed out - though Pakistanis may yet surprise with their pragmatism on that issue.

I agree that Musahrraf still appears the best bet (of course I am a bit biased) because as you pointed out, he has real numbers and real achievements to prove his case, though Kargil may be unforgivable among some sections of Indians, and like I mentioned earlier, he actually has the backing of the establishment (is the establishment some would say), to continue on that path - not in the least because, unlike BB, every single thing bar the Kitchen sink will not be on offer along with a hand of friendship.
 
collaborating with or being subservient to not just one, but two enemies?


why is one considerded subserviant if one is trying to improve/start relations with india and israel respectively. i think musharraf will always negotiate with the interests of pakistan first and foremost! dont u think!
 
why is one considerded subserviant if one is trying to improve/start relations with india and israel respectively. i think musharraf will always negotiate with the interests of pakistan first and foremost! dont u think!

I agree with you :agree:
 
why is one considerded subserviant if one is trying to improve/start relations with india and israel respectively. i think musharraf will always negotiate with the interests of pakistan first and foremost! dont u think!
Oh of course, I completely agree with you from a personal stand point. This is why I am a pseudo supporter of Musharraf. After Kargil, and assuming control of Pakistan, he has in fact made decisions for the benefit of Pakistan and it's people. He has also curbed terrorism in Kashmir and initiated peace talks in a very impressive manner. This to me clearly indicates not only his competence but also his dedication to bring stability to Pakistan and south Asia.

However, my question was more aimed at the local populace. I wonder if the vast majority of conservative (not radical) Muslims (of which I think there are many in Pakistan) may view Musharraf's actions with scorn because he may be seen as pandering to parties who have for a long time been perceived as "enemies" in the Muslim world at large. And if so, wouldn't these actions conducted in a public sphere alienate this portion of the population thereby further reducing his support which is now more than ever necessary for him as a civilian leader?
 
Musharraf's actions with scorn because he may be seen as pandering to parties who have for a long time been perceived as "enemies" in the Muslim world at large. And if so, wouldn't these actions conducted in a public sphere alienate this portion of the population thereby further reducing his support which is now more than ever necessary for him as a civilian leader?


i agree with you, but our public is not that sophisticated to conduct these actions (as u put it) in a public sphere.Musharraf has and is doing his best to create this awareness amongst the populace by coming on TV to present his views for the benefit of all pakistanis.
 
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