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Thats all we need, you trolling!
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Thats all we need, you trolling!
You guys honestly deserve it. Block 60s,.. some guy going around posting off facebook pages on tank trials..Thats all we need, you trolling!
Lage raho.Not for F-16XL, Pakistan much pressure US congress to make Block 70 and ask for F-35 technology in it.
Im not stopping till we get our hands on the stash at Area-51... hire some Greys too for infiltration missions across the border.Lage raho.
all you will find in the warehouse 13 is Vedic LCA's...Im not stopping till we get our hands on the stash at Area-51... hire some Greys too for infiltration missions across the border.
No Sir next acquisition won't be 5th Generation it would be another 4.5th Generation Fighter and than we would focus on 5th Generation as for BLOCK 60 may be UAE can be of some help in convincing USA but still really difficult.There is neither the need nor the possibility of F-16's block 60 for PAF.
PAF is not interested in acquiring anymore F-16's with " KILL SWITCHES ".
PAF is on the right track in acquiring Aircraft which come with Transfer of Technology from China.
The next acquisition would be 5th Generation Fighter Aircraft.
Who is saying pulling f16 im saying paf should consider more powerfull fighter jet era of stealth fighter jet started and era of twin engine jet
Im saying we dont need f 16 abymore
In 1976 which country made it is now not buying it anymore either usa stupid or they want to go ahead
Every fighter jets has its era F 16 CANT fight against top notch rafale and pak fa
Su 30 fighter pilot frar or no fear 3 SU 30 against 1 F 16 100 percent SU 30 winning in both bvr and wvr
We should accept ground realities
Do we need more F-16s or not?Ground realities:-
According to wikipedia, USA has 912 single engine F-16s as against the total of 645 twin engine aircrafts (F-15s, F-22, F-35).
For winning of Su-30 against F-16s, please read the following (its mentioned in another thread):-
By Arming India Correspondent
NEW DELHI, AUG.1, 2015: Pakistan's latest fleet of F-16 Block 52 variants can beat India's front line Sukhoi Su-30MKIs in a one-on-one dogfight, a top Indian government official told Arming India, in an admission that the Indian Air Force (IAF) lacks a counter to its enemy number one's air combat platform.
That's precisely why India had chosen French Rafales as its Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) that can counter the F-16's capabilities. India's Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar had told Parliament last week that the government had earlier this year withdrawn a 2007 tender for 126 MMRCA, a contest in which Rafale was chosen by India.
The two squadrons of F-16C/D variants of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) have superior electronic warfare capabilities and that's what is worrying the IAF commanders, the highly-placed government official, who did not wish to be identified, citing service rules, said in a tête-à-tête with Arming India on July 30, 2015.
"It is not the BVR (Beyond Visual Range) air battles, but the close air battles that the Su-30s can't match up with the F-16C/D variants. The PAF planes have superior electronic warfare capabilities and the contemporary air battles rely more on EW capabilities to beat an enemy combat plane in a one-on-one dogfight," the official said.
The contemporary air battle strategies revolve around neutralizing enemy planes at beyond visual range. But there is a possibility that some enemy plane would sneak in through the air defense measures in place. In such a scenario, the enemy plane could wreak havoc on the Indian troops and assets on the ground. As a counter, fighter jets may have to be scrambled to take on the enemy plane one-on-one.
The official also noted that for every one F-16 that PAF has, India has to deploy two Su-30s if the enemy fleet is to be beaten. "If the F-16 goes after one Su-30, it can run and the other Su-30 can get a go at the enemy F-16. That way, the IAF has to deploy too many of its Su-30 resources for just countering the F-16s."
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Good one; But why did you left out F22; Uae Mirages and F-15 etc. Not fair.You are Kafir for saying that.
the PAF needs 4 squadrons of F-16 Block 61 and two of F-16XL(lockheed martin must restart production line) and 5 squadrons of EFT with 4 of Gripen along with PN having six of Su-35 and Mig-35 each.. We also need to buy ten squadrons of J-10B and C along with replacing all Allouettes with NH-90 and Sea king with EH-101. For 5th gen we need to buy 15 squadrons of J-31 along with working with Turkey to buy ten squadrons of their TFX.
Finally we need 4 more Erieye and 6 more ZDK along with A-380 AEW doing JV with Belarus.
he's joking, who ever replied jokes on themLockheed's production line is still open for f16's, unless you passed another fatwa and had it shut down!
if you read whats he's saying he's being rhetorical.Not going to happen!! May be more F-16 block 52's as they'll be coming available soon from ANG as the -35 rolls out. Pakistan could make a case to the U.S., to retire a few squadrons a bit quicker. -60 will require cash....as that is a custom order block created for UAE and Israeli Sufa version.
I personally think it's time for PAF to get heavies. You'll need it the most against IN. Your EEZ has expanded by a few Hundred NM's. The JFT's or the -16's aren't enough due to shorter loiter time, specially during a conflict.
SU-35 or the J-16's would be ideal. J-11 if they upgrade the avionics to simultaneous target 4-6 enemy planes.
well someone took a happy pill this morning.You guys honestly deserve it. Block 60s,.. some guy going around posting off facebook pages on tank trials..
No wonder Shiekh Chilley was Pakistani.
Mufti Oscar halwa puri has spoken and issued a fatwa. All obey or have your heads chopped off.!!!!!You are Kafir for saying that.
the PAF needs 4 squadrons of F-16 Block 61 and two of F-16XL(lockheed martin must restart production line) and 5 squadrons of EFT with 4 of Gripen along with PN having six of Su-35 and Mig-35 each.. We also need to buy ten squadrons of J-10B and C along with replacing all Allouettes with NH-90 and Sea king with EH-101. For 5th gen we need to buy 15 squadrons of J-31 along with working with Turkey to buy ten squadrons of their TFX.
Finally we need 4 more Erieye and 6 more ZDK along with A-380 AEW doing JV with Belarus.
On a serious note, even just one or two squadrons of Blk61's could wreak havoc!
On the flip side, that would would mean a whole new platform for the PAF.
Had we played our cards right in Yemen, we would have gotten a lot of good hardware discounted, or free. But no we got scared by a bunch of Lungi nutcases!
I also think we never seem to get what other people manage to get out of the Arabs. it maybe that we are poor negotiators or the arabs rate us below their own arab speaking brothers..
HELLO BUDDYwell just because theres rumours that PAF is going to buy the su35 does not make it the best fighter in the world, and the EFT can only be a poster on the wall for PAF. but you need to face facts, reality. the eft is better.