Navy keen on AMCA Project

[GORKHALI]

SOURCE : VINAYAK SHETTI FOR SECURITY MAGAZINE ISSUE OF FEB
Navy keen on AMCA Project
Not to be left out of the countries 5th generation fighter program, Indian navy has asked for a briefing on the AMCA project which ADE is heading and they were briefed on AMCA project by the ADE which was attended by Navy’s high ranked officers. Navy earlier had shown interest in American made F-35 for their 5th gen platform requirements but it seems that Navy has decided to stick with Indigenous program. Navy will join the program once AMCA begins its Technological demonstration phase after its first flight somewhere near end of this decade. Navy is keen that N-LCA program is successful so that they can move to N- AMCA project soon after its completion. N-LCA had some issues with its landing gear which needed to be redesigned to operate on an aircraft carrier and survive hard deck landing .N-LCA NP-1 is almost ready for its first flight and will have its first flight in mid or end or March if Ground and taxi trials are conducted in time. Our sources have confirmed that Navy has received a Briefing and also a copy of ASR (Air Staff Requirements) issued by Indian air force on AMCA aircraft , Navy is also working out how N-AMCA will fit its doctrine and into its plans of operating larger aircraft carrier from IAC-2 onwards .

 

[GORKHALI]

Navy at its best .... Bravo Indian navy

 

[blackops]

I love the in man they realy like domestic produced goods

 

[Abingdonboy]

Whilst it is good that the IN and other forces are keen on indigenous products do you not think that all the forces should get the BEST possible equipment regardless of country of origin. As such Indian products can participate in trails and procurements but should only be selected if they are the best fit for the force and best in the category. These products/developments should not be rapped in cotton wool and favoured just for being Indian because the results are not favourable for anyone- Indian companies make poor quality and low utility products because of lack of competition with other countries/products, Forces get inadequate and low utility products.

The armed forces should not be a test bed and maternity ward for Indian products which can hinder them in war. The armed forces should be provided with the best equipment they can afford to do their primary job- defend the nation and her interests.

I recently witnessed this after watching an IN N-LCA test pilot who was less than enthralled with the product and its ongoing development.

GOI/MOD should be doing the best by these guys F£&K the politics!!

 

[Whiplash]

Yeah the navy just shouldn't get too carried away and start building IAC2 and others to be compatible with AMCA. Rather, it should be the other way around.

 

[sancho]

I recently witnessed this after watching an IN N-LCA test pilot who was less than enthralled with the product and its ongoing development.

Exactly, the same reason that led IN to N-LCA, is now the reason to hype N-AMCA, long before there is any realistic base available for an indigenous naval fighter, let alone an 5. gen fighter.
IN already understands that they have to buy a foreign fighter for IAC2, because N-Pak FA / FGFA, or N-AMCA might only come 2 to 6 years after the carrier and that's why they issued an RFI for it. By logic you would focus on that RFI and figure out if a naval Pak Fa / FGFA version would fit to IAC 2s doctrine, because that fighter could be available earlier. Russian navy already stated, that they want such a version on their future carriers, which means a co-design is possible, which reduces costs again.
Planning with a naval AMCA, before these 2 possibilities are not cleared just shows that IN is favouring pride again instead of capability. Imo that's not only sad, but even disturbing, when we keep in mind that IAC 2 should be the most capable carrier, aimed on facing PLAN. The best possible techs and weapons should be the aim in this regard, not the most indigenous!

 

[madooxno9]

soo that means no F-35 anymore..... ????

i thought at least in coming years , on our aircraft carriers we will have a squn. of F-35

 

[ptltejas]

Too late! when USA and other countries wii have their fleet decade old, we shall fly our prototype. can't we hurry that within five yr we can fly it? all tech can be available within period including electronic suits and others. export possibility may be tbere. Indian Leaders grant more fund to DRDO for all types earliar development.

 

[Ammyy]

I think N-AMCA still far away for reality and i dnt knw why navy dnt want F35 for IAC-2 ????

 

[ptltejas]

I think N-AMCA still far away for reality and i dnt knw why navy dnt want F35 for IAC-2 ????

Recently Israel raised their objection due to High Cost of F-35. definately technology better but consider One as IAC will ready AMCA will ready with new latest tech, Second we have no faith on USA as anytime they put ban on supply compare to russia and third our neibours have no such high tech so immediate need such as counter or showing extraordinary power.

 

[Ammyy]

Recently Israel raised their objection due to High Cost of F-35. definately technology better but consider One as IAC will ready AMCA will ready with new latest tech, Second we have no faith on USA as anytime they put ban on supply compare to russia and third our neibours have no such high tech so immediate need such as counter or showing extraordinary power.

but how can they consider N AMCA for IAC-2 ??? Even our NLCA is in development so how long they want to wait for N AMCA ???2025??

I think this article is not credible ..... If navy want 5th gen fighter so F35 is only available option or navy should think about EF or F18 for IAC-2

 

[sancho]

but how can they consider N AMCA for IAC-2 ??? Even our NLCA is in development so how long they want to wait for N AMCA ???2025??

I think this article is not credible ..... If navy want 5th gen fighter so F35 is only available option or navy should think about EF or F18 for IAC-2

EF and Sea Gripen are totally no goes for us! Both are not developed, have no interest from their developing countries and requires full funding of developments and later upgrades from us alone. If we go for a secondary fighter as a bridge to N- FGFA / N-AMCA, we must go to an operational fighter that will be in service for other navys, for years too. That means Rafale, or F18SH!

 

[Nirvana]

N - AMCA will take time to be reality , for IAC 2 we should be looking for Naval typhoon or F- 18 or gripen rather than F-35 ......

 

[jha]

Navy keen on AMCA just like they are keen on LCA..Lets see if HAL/ADA/DRDO can deliver this in time..

 

[GodlessBastard]

but how can they consider N AMCA for IAC-2 ??? Even our NLCA is in development so how long they want to wait for N AMCA ???2025??

I think this article is not credible ..... If navy want 5th gen fighter so F35 is only available option or navy should think about EF or F18 for IAC-2

The IAC-2 will be using naval MMRCAs, not the N-AMCA. This is why all the MMRCAs participating in the competition were required to submit naval variants of their design, and this is one of the reasons why I think the Rafale and Super Hornet have the best chances of winning (they can be used by both the IAF and IN).

The Navy will be using naval variants of the FGFA and AMCA (if such variants are developed) only after IAC-2. In other words, a long time from now.