Naval warship ‘INS Chennai’ is an example of ‘Make in India’: Indian Navy

[danger007]

But what is US navy got to do with this thread, no one mentioned US navy in 6 pages.

Some one trying to show off like Plaan is sun but IN doesn't hold torch. when you are trying to show off, i need to show your place. After USN we are strongest Navy in IoR.

 

[IblinI]

Some one trying to show off like Plaan is sun but IN doesn't hold torch. when you are trying to show off, i need to show your place. After USN we are strongest Navy in IoR.

Mr War&peace is not from China, so who is this "we" you are talking about?

 

[Max]

i can guess 95% of its design, critical parts and weapons will be from Israel, France, Russia and other foreign countries like other make in bharat stuff, but nonetheless i appreciate this effort, even i being a Pakistani feel embarrassed when shupa powa boost about its power on basis of stuff she imported from tiny Israel.

it may not be 95% indigenous but atleast its 5%.. so cheers

DO YOU PAKISTANIS actually know how to build a navy fleet or fight a naval campaign

we can execute military projects better then you keeping in mind Teja, Arjun, Nag and dozens of other failed projects, it solely depends on money after all which Pakistan dont have right now. but given the resources, what is difficult to build? cant we ask China to design a DDG for us, cant we ask France, Spain and italy for Radars, sonar and anti air missile? basically your every indigenous ship is amalgamation of imported stuff.

 

[rcrmj]

it is indeed a well representation of 'make in India',
which means:
1, all the important parts are directly imported
2, unpredictable deadline
3, unpredictable budget
4, lousy plan and work (for a primary air defense ship it still hasnt got a decent air-to-air missile, joke isnt it)

 

[danger007]

it is indeed a well representation of 'make in India',
which means:
1, all the important parts are directly imported
2, unpredictable deadline
3, unpredictable budget
4, lousy plan and work (for a primary air defense ship it still hasnt got a decent air-to-air missile, joke isnt it)

Made in china
1. leaked pics
2. budget secret
3. development secret( engineers unknown)
4. mass prodduction. better than original product. copied version with improved specs. world best blah blah..
5. no warranty no guarantee

so your article was published tomorrow .. as i said dont embarrass your kind further, dont waste my time



again waste of smilies, nothing to do with topic, if you want to die with rectum bleeding then keep quoting me, i will keep your level of butthurt with stats yes toilet data and suicide can be an indicator along with poverty level.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...els-higher-than-Pakistans-says-UN-report.html




again doesnt channge the fact that you bhangis are biggest begger, no amount of your butthurt filled smiles can hide reality.. need link



we know your upbringing and being bhangi is no crime, bhangi like you are humans after all.

Syptoms of butt hurt:
1. personal attack
2. zero patience
3. tilted mental balance
4. repeating same personal attack again and again. now analyse your post with others.

 

[Glorino]

The Thread is on "INS CHENNAI" Why talk about poverty and HDI. Keep to the heading

 

[Sully3]

this low life low IQ piss drinker cant even post data with honesty, he posted posted nigerian data with title of Pakistan

bro i suggest you report all his posts to the mods. the language he is using against pakistan shows the low life scumbag he is, and he will be banned. just keep reporting the comments

 

[Abingdonboy]

(for a primary air defense ship it still hasnt got a decent air-to-air missile, joke isnt it)

The rest of your post is BS also but I want to correct this part most of all, how is the BARAK-8 not a "decent" SAM (not A2A missile obviously)? It is easily one of the finest naval SAMs ever deployed and when operated alongside the EL/M-2048 MF-STAR it is an almost invincible defence. The BARAK-8 was specifically designed to take down incoming supersonic cruise missiles and with its LOAL capability and own seeker has a >95% kill rate.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[rcrmj]

The rest of your post is BS also but I want to correct this part most of all, how is the BARAK-8 not a "decent" SAM (not A2A missile obviously)? It is easily one of the finest naval SAMs ever deployed and when operated alongside the EL/M-2048 MF-STAR it is an almost invincible defence. The BARAK-8 was specifically designed to take down incoming supersonic cruise missiles and with its LOAL capability and own seeker has a >95% kill rate.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

has it been deployed yet? and how to make sure this supposed to be 'advanced' air defense missile will work well when its installed by Indian on an assambled ship that has to cope with French, Italian and Russian subsystems? 'almost invincible defense' lol, this shows how little you know about air defense```

and call me BS, , you better say it with a straight face that this ship is indigenous``and you know you cant````as from radar to sensors, bolts to engines, guns to missiles, as I said before, none of these are Indian, they were all imported with ridiculous price. period!

 

[kṣamā]

i can guess 95% of its design, critical parts and weapons will be from Israel, France, Russia and other foreign countries like other make in bharat stuff, but nonetheless i appreciate this effort, even i being a Pakistani feel embarrassed when shupa powa boost about its power on basis of stuff she imported from tiny Israel.

it may not be 95% indigenous but atleast its 5%.. so cheers

Why not 148.3% ¿ You can "Think" that Indian Navy also imports people from the same places, paints them in desi brown, teaches them local languages and then deployed them on these vessels! Why stop there you can "Think" it is a wooden boat with plywood superstructure, towed by mermaids from below...! You can "Think" that crew on board (Desi coloured foreigners) makes make believe long range optics with their hands to scan the horizon for its targets. And when targets are found, First Mate makes "Pew... Pew... Pew" sounds over the imported PA system to simulate weapon launches. Also before I forget, those VLS contain half drunk imported Diet Coke and Mentos.

Proof kise chaiye... "Think" karke hi duniya jeet lenge...

we can execute military projects better then you keeping in mind Teja, Arjun, Nag and dozens of other failed projects, it solely depends on money after all which Pakistan dont have right now. but given the resources, what is difficult to build? cant we ask China to design a DDG for us, cant we ask France, Spain and italy for Radars, sonar and anti air missile? basically your every indigenous ship is amalgamation of imported stuff.

Not again. Ok now officially I am going to register the Biryani example as my trademark.

Mission: To attain bragging rights for your biryani making skills online.

Approach I:-
1. Open local food delivery app eg: FoodPanda,Zomato, Swiggy etc
2. Search for cheapest Biryani in town and order it. (As you are low on cash)
3. When order is received, serve it on a clean plate with nice presentation.
4. Click a decent picture and post it on Instagram.
Result: 100% success rate.
Tradeoff : Will not be able to enjoy biryani if the vendor dose not makes/delivers biryani as the actual recipe is unknown.

Approach II:-
1. Open local grocery delivery apps.
2. Order raw materials for biryani from the best possible vendors or cost effective vendors depending upon the raw material.
3. Once raw materials delivered, start cooking up biryani with your own recipes.
4. Once cooked, serve it on a clean plate with nice presentation.
5. Click a decent picture and post it on Instagram.
Result: < 100% success rate as perfecting recipes will take some trial n error.
Tradeoff : Initial investment is higher and initial results maybe unpalatable. But once the kinks are cleared you enjoy your awesome and unique style of biryani irrespective of external factors as long as raw materials are available.

I hope you do get my drift.

Now for the indigenous part. I hope you or someone in your family cook. Probably your Mom? And there would be one dish that you or your mom cooks, that is quite famous in your social group... Let's assume it is Biryani..

So do you practice animal husbandry to get your meat? Do you also maintain a rice and spice farm to harvest your basmati rice and spices? Do you also have a oil well to get your own cooking gas? I know by now you would be screaming NO in your mind a million times. These tasks are done by other people at different places who specialise in these tasks..

So dose it mean that the biryani made by combining all these raw materials is not unique? Is it not your intellectual property? The same materials are available to you people in your social circle as well, but still they name the end product as "Your" biryani. It is "Your" product.

Again I hope you get my drift. No one is stopping you from sourcing the raw materials from same vendors and build your own destroyers. Even if you have the raw materials you need the recipe to tie them together and that where the catch is...

India operates about 50 registered ship builders, whereas Pakistan just operates 2. There maybe countless small unregistered boat makers in both countries. Still the figures speak for themselves.

 

[Tom M]

i can guess 95% of its design, critical parts and weapons will be from Israel, France, Russia and other foreign countries like other make in bharat stuff, but nonetheless i appreciate this effort, even i being a Pakistani feel embarrassed when shupa powa boost about its power on basis of stuff she imported from tiny Israel.

it may not be 95% indigenous but atleast its 5%.. so cheers

Keep ridiculing, it's not gonna make an iota of difference in our intent. There is a reason why even after a head start of 8 years, your SUPERCO is still a sitting duck whereas ISRO now stands within in the elite league. It never happened overnight but after multiple failed rocket and satellite launch attempts we had achieved that. The same is applicable in all the above projects, we may fail tons of times, but if you think this is the end of the road for our indigenous development dream, I wish you live with that thought for your entire life.

we can execute military projects better then you keeping in mind Teja, Arjun, Nag and dozens of other failed projects, it solely depends on money after all which Pakistan dont have right now. but given the resources, what is difficult to build? cant we ask China to design a DDG for us, cant we ask France, Spain and italy for Radars, sonar and anti air missile? basically your every indigenous ship is amalgamation of imported stuff.

First learn to generate money (as you say) first. It's the basic requirement, if you don't have the basic simple knowledge and means to generating enough money, how do you think you can manage complex projects ??

 

[帅的一匹]

Except for the hull and Brahmos, what else India produce for Chennai?

 

[punit]

Except for the hull and Brahmos, what else India produce for Chennai?

we supply butthurt to Chinese .. both real and fake !

 

[Theparadox]

Around 70% of the ship is indigenously built in India while other components exported like turbines are built in Ukraine even China bought them from Ukraine for their warships so nothing worth taking note.

 

[IblinI]

Around 70% of the ship is indigenously built in India while other components exported like turbines are built in Ukraine even China bought them from Ukraine for their warships so nothing worth taking note.

Please update yourself,as of type 052 and type 055 series, everything is domestic.
Back to the topic, congratulation for the ship and I am not here to do statistic or arguing what is the definition of "Make in India", your country, your term.