Naswarville

[Leader]

Whenever i visit the IDF photo thread, i wish that i was in their army

@500

Ki hoya veeray ??? kiun har villay ronda hi ranaa hai ???

 

[RAMPAGE]

Thats debatable.

I don't think so. no sovereign country will tolerate violation of it's airspace !!!!

 

[Neptune]

the whole issue can be summed up : russia is still a massive threat, and NATO gives more to turkey than it takes away. Its a good rational decision, who wants to leave a cosy, comfortable club.

yeah but somehow, people declare us as "a traitor" to them, the same people who betrayed us before.

 

[Aamna14]

I don't think so. no sovereign country will tolerate violation of it's airspace !!!!

Well as long we have such uniquely coward figures as Musharraf and Nawaz Shariff it would all continue to happen it just proves they are the puppets the only fault of the nation is that we haven't kicked them out.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Well as long we have such uniquely coward figures as Musharraf and Nawaz Shariff it would all continue to happen it just proves they are the puppets the only fault of the nation is that we haven't kicked them out.

Exactly ...... hamara masla hi ye hai k hum beghairat aur dheet hain

 

[Aamna14]

Exactly ...... hamara masla hi ye hai k hum beghairat aur dheet hain

Ji nahin dheet bhale hoon per ab aisa bhi kuch nahin hai

 

[RAMPAGE]

Ji nahin dheet bhale hoon per ab aisa bhi kuch nahin hai

Ji haan aisa hi hai aap na mano beshak

PPP ka ghareeb jeyala ab bhi yahi kehta hai kai "pait mai roti ho na ho vote tou bibi ko hi dun ga"

 

[livingdead]

Well as long we have such uniquely coward figures as Musharraf and Nawaz Shariff it would all continue to happen it just proves they are the puppets the only fault of the nation is that we haven't kicked them out.

musharaf thinks he saved pakistan from going iraq way, bush jr apparently threatened him to bomb pakistan to stone age.

 

[Aamna14]

Ji haan aisa hi hai aap na mano beshak

PPP ka ghareeb jeyala ab bhi yahi kehta hai kai "pait mai roti ho na ho vote tou bibi ko hi dun ga"

Toh kasoor kis ka hai?? Aap aise jaahil logon se kya umeed rakhte hain?? Waise bhi yeh sab kehne ki baatein hain jab pait mein waqai roti nahin hoti na aur apki aulaad apki aankhon ke saamne dam torti hai toh koi bibi nahin aati kisi ko yaad. Yeh sab kehne ki baatein hain. Aik baar inko us haal mein pohanchne dein phir dekhein yehi sab se zyada shor machayein ge bibi and co ke khilaaf.

musharaf thinks he saved pakistan from going iraq way, bush jr apparently threatened him to bomb pakistan to stone age.

We know very well what Musharaff thought. Its one thing to wish to protect the people but an entirely another thing to sell them off to a super power just because he didn't have the guts to take a stand. I am sorry but we are already facing suicide bombers almost every day, better to die with "ghairat" and for our people than to get holed up in fear of what tomorrow might bring ending up committing a political suicide.

 

[Dillinger]

@hinduguy What up pedo?

@RAMPAGE You still got the hots for this fairy? Call him over from the island, I am sure he'll enjoy the sights and sounds of Pakistan.

 

[RAMPAGE]

@hinduguy What up pedo?

@RAMPAGE You still got the hots for this fairy? Call him over from the island, I am sure he'll enjoy the sights and sounds of Pakistan.

@hinduguy aabhi jaa sanam

 

[livingdead]

Toh kasoor kis ka hai?? Aap aise jaahil logon se kya umeed rakhte hain?? Waise bhi yeh sab kehne ki baatein hain jab pait mein waqai roti nahin hoti na aur apki aulaad apki aankhon ke saamne dam torti hai toh koi bibi nahin aati kisi ko yaad. Yeh sab kehne ki baatein hain. Aik baar inko us haal mein pohanchne dein phir dekhein yehi sab se zyada shor machayein ge bibi and co ke khilaaf.



We know very well what Musharaff thought. Its one thing to wish to protect the people but an entirely another thing to sell them off to a super power just because he didn't have the guts to take a stand. I am sorry but we are already facing suicide bombers almost every day, better to die with "ghairat" and for our people than to get holed up in fear of what tomorrow might bring ending up committing a political suicide.

when people are given power to decide the fate of others, most of the times they seem to take a rational decision than allowing things like 'ghairat' to be the driving factor. Niazi did, and so did Musharaf.
I am not going to judge them so soon.

 

[Aamna14]

when people are given power to decide the fate of others, most of the times they seem to take a rational decision than allowing things like 'ghairat' to be the driving factor. Niazi did, and so did Musharaf.
I am not going to judge them so soon.

Most leaders don't take "this kind" of rational decisions to allow their country to become a playground for foreign powers so that can't be justified and obviously you won't judge him so soon as you aren't the ones witnessing suicide attacks almost every day and losing you're countrymen. You can surely afford to give him the benefit of the doubt we simply don't have that luxury.

 

[livingdead]

Most leaders don't take "this kind" of rational decisions to allow their country to become a playground for foreign powers so that can't be justified and obviously you won't judge him so soon as you aren't the ones witnessing suicide attacks almost every day and losing you're countrymen. You can surely afford to give him the benefit of the doubt we simply don't have that luxury.

suicide attack as opposed to massive loss of infrastructure by NATO, regime change and foreign troops on your soil. Resistance movement which would have blown up americans and your own people. Americans would have fled with a fragile regime in power.
Which one would you have preferred?

 

[Dillinger]

Most leaders don't take "this kind" of rational decisions to allow their country to become a playground for foreign powers so that can't be justified and obviously you won't judge him so soon as you aren't the ones witnessing suicide attacks almost every day and losing you're countrymen. You can surely afford to give him the benefit of the doubt we simply don't have that luxury.

Then you had best not lay all the blame on Mush, it goes all the way back to the 60s and late 50s, he wasn't exercising any authority when U-2s were taking off from bases in Pakistan nor was he the bloke who ensured that tribal areas would become a zone for extra-national elements who would at best only recognize any Pakistani authority if said authority was willing to turn a blind eye towards their proclivities. The dynamics have changed and the nations with influence have decided that it is no longer in their interests to allow the existence of regions which are ungoverned and ergo fertile grounds for pan national terrorist organisations, as such Pakistan had the choice of cleaning house by itself or letting the Americans do it, do you think that exercising the former option would have led to any less bloodshed? There is always a price to pay, for every ounce of influence or power you borrow the lender extracts a price, and America is not the only nation which acts in that manner. There are hooks dug in deep into the Pakistani economy, from the Paris Chamber of Commerce to the IMF (neither are new to the game, you will need to study the economic history of Pakistan to realize that even before Mush Pakistan had been running about and around the IMF, much before he came on the scene- starting from ESAF in 91 and before that in 88), it is not possible for leaders to then pick a fight with a belligerent power which deems it fit to rain down hell on those who oppose it.