Nag Anti-tank guided missile

[Maarkhoor]

So after reading this it seem that this NAAG will be another addition in the long list of failures of DRDO.

Yep that is why they are purchasing anti tank missile from Israel

 

[$@rJen]

@Zarvan
DRDO’s Nag ATGM Disappoints Army, Fails To Meet Mission Objectives During Trials
The state-run DRDO as well as the Indian Army have received a major setback as the user trials of the third-generation Nag anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) failed to achieve the desired results. DRDO officials have admitted that the Nag anti-tank missile with its carrier NAMICA have given an underwhelming performance in the Mahajan Firing Range in Rajasthan yesterday. The user trials were witnessed by senior Army officers who have asked DRDO to be better prepared for the next trial.

During the trials, four Nag missiles were fired of which only one could hit the target. The remaining failed to deliver accurate results since the equipment on-board the weapon failed to function properly. Besides the Nag missile, the Indian Army officials did not find the performance of the NAMICA carrier impressive as well since it could not display its capabilities in water during the trials.

According to DRDO spokesperson Ravi Gupta, the user trials of the Nag anti-tank missile with the NAMICA were only a partial success. He added that the Advanced Target Acquisition systems with both the Gunner and Commander have performed well during the user trial of the Nag missile.

He added that while the NAMICA carrier failed to display its capabilities in water, it met the requirements of the user in terms of its cross-country capabilities. DRDO is currently looking into the deviations in the engine performance of the NAMICA carrier. NAMICA is a modified Russian-origin BMP-II personnel carrier for the Nag missile.

The Nag anti-tank missile is part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP) and has been under development since a lot of time now. NAG ATGM is based on imaging infra-red (IIR) passive seeker technology for ensuring high accuracy. According to DRDO, it may take few more years of research before it is finally inducted. Indian government has already spent about Rs 1,700 crore on developing the Nag ATGM project with no positive signs.

As for the DRDO, it is also working on developing the helicopter-launched Nag missile called the HELINA and its trials are also expected to be held soon. Unlike the NAMICA, which works on a ‘lock-on before launch’ system, HELINA uses a technology called ‘lock-on after launch’.

The Indian Army has been eagerly awaiting the induction of the indigenous Nag missile and it is awaiting its order of 400 Nag missiles and about 13 NAMICAs. At this juncture, the Army may go for more second generation Russian Konkurs-M missiles which is already a part of its inventory. The Army also uses the French-origin Milan anti-tank missiles and is also in negotiations with the US for procuring the over-priced Javelin anti-tank guided missiles.

DRDO’s Nag ATGM Disappoints Army, Fails To Meet Mission Objectives During Trials

@Zarvan
Nag Fails in User Trials
DRDO's long-delayed Nag anti-tank missile project has suffered yet another setback as its user trials held recently in the Mahajan firing range failed.

In the trials held in Rajasthan in presence of senior Lt Gen-rank officers from the Army and top DRDO officials, the modified carrier of the missile called NAMICA also under-performed, sources said.

In the trials held at the Mahajan firing range, four Nag missiles were fired of which only one could hit the target whereas the remaining failed to do so due to glitches in the equipment on-board the weapon, they said.

Army officials present at the test-firings were not happy with the performance of the missile and have asked the Defence research agency to come better prepared for the trials to be held in the future, they said.

The missile has been under development as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP) initiated in early 1980s and is now expected to take few more years to reach the induction stage.

Sources said the carrier of the Nag missile called NAMICA -- a modified Russian-origin BMP-II personnel carrier, also failed to satisfy the users in displaying its capabilities in water during the trials.

However, the NAMICA met the requirements of the user in terms of its cross-country capabilities, they said.

When contacted for his reaction, DRDO spokesperson Ravi Gupta said the trials were a "partial success".

"The Advanced Target Acquisition systems with both the Gunner and Commander have performed well," he claimed.
Nag Fails in User Trials

@Zarvan

That's the old news from 2012 don't get excited..

the missile was successfully test fired in this year

Anti-Tank missile tested from helicopter platform - Times of India

 

[Maarkhoor]

30 year man 30 year even fail to produce anti tank, we are export our Baktar Shikan though it is not so called fire and forget a wire guided pretty lethal.

 

[sharma1111]

Yep that is why they are purchasing anti tank missile from Israel

India is purchasing Spike: 4th gen Anti tank missile from Israel
4th Gen Israel's Spike missile have such differentiating features from 3rd gen Nag missile.
1. Spike can update and switch target
2. Spike can detect friend and foe
3. Spike has a pinpoint accuracy

30 year man 30 year even fail to produce anti tank, we are export our Baktar Shikan though it is not so called fire and forget a wire guided pretty lethal.

Pakistan is more advanced in missile tech. India decade behind Pak in anti tank missile tech

 

[$@rJen]

Yep that is why they are purchasing anti tank missile from Israel

Dude... Do some research before posting someting.. What we're buying from Israel is ManPads NAG is Heli launched/Track Wheel launched missile

 

[Maarkhoor]

India is purchasing Spike: 4th gen Anti tank missile from Israel
4th Gen Israel's Spike missile have such differentiating features from Nag missile.
1. Spike can update and switch target
2. Spike can detect friend and foe
3. Spike has a pinpoint accuracy

because DRDO fail to develop it locally.

THE END no further quote PLS.

 

[$@rJen]

30 year man 30 year even fail to produce anti tank, we are export our Baktar Shikan though it is not so called fire and forget a wire guided pretty lethal.

Develop something on your own Instead of renaming HJ-8 to Baktar Shikan, then come and talk here... Stop derailing the thread please

because DRDO fail to develop it locally.

THE END no further quote PLS.

Again do some research.. its only recenlty in 2012-13 they've planned to develop man portable ones fire and forget missile and planned to test it by 2017.. which will be unlikely once Spike or Advanced Version of Javelin gets inducted with us.

So please do tell me Why do you induct F-16s when you build JF Locally ???

 

[Arceus]

All great successful projects started 30 to 35 years back
Arjun, Tejas etc etc

Yours have not started yet.

because DRDO fail to develop it locally.

THE END no further quote PLS.

You go and cry for your daddy china to give u one.

 

[raj76]

no need to explain to them boss inki haat rahi hai kyonki harroz nayi news dekh kar inki phat rahi hai

 

[Rangila]

Thats the foolishness of the IA to ask for the IIR guided anti tank missile capable of distinguishing hot temp of enemy armor at 60 degree temperature of Deserts of Rajasthan. No missile in the world is capable of doing that and no enemy is so idiot to launch such armor attack on the Broad day light in open terrain of Desert.

Not the highest, nor is it the average normal desert temperature.

On board electronics can discriminate between the thermal trajectory of the tank's smoke trail and the sun heat.

 

[knight11]

Lol. Copying pasting news from 2012
DRDO's Nag missile fails in user trials | delhi | Hindustan Times
DRDO's Nag missile fails in user trials

• Updated: Aug 19, 2012 12:11 IST

@Zarvan Have you read the article

He added that while the
NAMICA carrier failed to display its capabilities in water, it met the requirements of the user in terms of its cross-country capabilities. DRDO is currently looking into the deviations in the engine performance of the NAMICA carrier. NAMICA is a modified Russian-origin BMP-II personnel carrier for the Nag missile.

 

[Maarkhoor]

@Zarvan Have you read the article

Fail is fail today or yesterday project started in 80s if they failed in 27 years what miracle they can do in 3 years.
@Zarvan

 

[knight11]

Not the highest, nor is it the average normal desert temperature.

View attachment 279147

All the temperature given are the temperature measured in Shades. Try taking a thermometer in ROAD, and check how much temperature is there when the road or concrete surface radiates under Sun.

Fail is fail today or yesterday project started in 80s if they failed in 27 years what miracle they can do in 3 years.
@Zarvan

You fail to understand or don't want to understand. The Program was initiated in 80's to make India self reliance in Missiles and Nag was the part of the 5 missiles which was initiated. The development will continues with higher version and improvement, in the same way how F-16 A to F-16 block 60.

 

[Rangila]

@knight11 road or concrete surface radiates under Sun

Have you seen any road or concrete structure in Rajasthan desert where the war is (supposedly) to be fought?

If not, what is the relevance?

 

[sharma1111]

All the temperature given are the temperature measured in Shades. Try taking a thermometer in ROAD, and check how much temperature is there when the road or concrete surface radiates under Sun.

Imaging Infra red homing(IIR) sensor can easily detect flares, and differentiate between differnt shades of object's heat map but current DRDO RCI IIR seeker has low resolution
Current Nag seeker built by RCI uses 128X128 LWIR (longwave infrared). RCI have just started working on 384X288 LWIR
resolution which will increase the accuracy in high temp enviornment.
This paper from 2007-8 discusses it in detail

Dual color IR detection modules, trends and applications
M. Münzberg ; R. Breiter ; W. Cabanski ; K. Hofmann ; H. Lutz ; J. Wendler ;J. Ziegler ; R. Rehm ; M. Walther
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Proc. SPIE 6542, Infrared Technology and Applications XXXIII, 654207 (May 14, 2007); doi:10.1117/12.718798
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From Conference Volume 6542

• Infrared Technology and Applications XXXIII
• Bjørn F. Andresen; Gabor F. Fulop; Paul R. Norton
• Orlando, Florida, USA | April 09, 2007

Abstract




abstract
The 3rd generation of infrared (IR) detection modules is expected to provide advanced features like higher resolution 1024x1024 or 1280x720 pixels and/or new functions like multicolor or multi band capability, higher frame rates and better thermal resolution. This paper is intended to present the current status and trends at AIM on antimonide type II superlattices (SL) dual color detection module developments for ground and airborne applications in the high performance range, where rapidly changing scenes - like e.g. in case of missile warning applications for airborne platforms or ground based sniper detection systems - require temporal signal coincidence with integration times of typically 1ms. AIM and IAF selected antimonide based type II superlattices (SL) for such kind of applications. The type II SL technology provides - similar to QWIP's - an accurate engineering of sensitive layers by MBE with very good homogeneity and yield. IAF and AIM managed already to realize a dual color 384x288 IR module based on this technology. It combines spectral selective detection in the 3 - 4μm wavelength range and 4 - 5 μm wavelength range in each pixel with coincident integration in a 384x288x2 format and 40x40 μm2 pitch. Excellent thermal resolution with NETD < 12 mK @ F/2, 2.8 ms for the longer wavelength range (red band) and NETD < 22 mK @ F/2, 2.8 ms for the shorter wavelength range (blue band) were reported. In the meantime a square design of 256x256x2 pixel with a reduced pitch of 30x30 μm2 is in preparation. In this case with 2 Indium bumps per pixel and a third common contact for all pixels required for temporal coincidence is connected at the outer area of the array. The fill factor is approx. 65% for both wavelength ranges. The reduced size of the array enables the use of a smaller dewar with reduced cooling power and significantly reduced weight and broadens the scope of applications where weight and costs is essential. Design aspects and expected performances are discussed.

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