Myth of IAF shooting F-16 Debunked - Indian Lies Exposed Again

[Enigma SIG]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102482305115811840

"I think they (Pakistan) have lost an F-16". He is not sure himself.

Piece of a missile isn't proof of a shot down. They're clutching at straws now; first they have to prove that the piece they showed was indeed an AIM-120C5. Otherwise it is just another lie generated from the Indian propaganda machine.

Prove it was an AIM 120C5 otherwise STFU.

 

[Maarkhoor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102482305115811840

"I think they (Pakistan) have lost an F-16". He is not sure himself.

@Suriya

 

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The very reason I created this thread was to see how people on either side of the border would take losses in any current/future Indo-Pak air war (or an skirmish for that matter). I wanted to discuss the political and psychological impact of such losses. The very fact that thread turned into a troll-fest and the later passionate replies I got from some members in other threads validates my point .

I won't comment on the Indian side but here it is what I have observed on the Pakistani side.

We Pakistanis (the general public) are not mentally prepared to accept the loss of an F-16, at least the first one.

Ever since it's introduction we have treated the F-16 like our guardian angel. A near invincible machine which we believe the enemy can't get any close too. Any aerial threat that dares enter our airspace will be blown out of the sky by the very weapons it carries.

The Indian government knows this mentality of the Pakistani people and thanks to wikileaks so does the rest of the world. If they are lying about shooting down any of our jets then they could have chosen any aircraft in our fleet. Even the JF-17 would have been a good choice, yet they chose the F-16. We all know the unease most of us felt when the Indians were posting here and there about the downing of an F-16. We only breathed a sigh of relief when we realized that their claims are largely bogus. They also know that until the PAF provides conclusive proof discrediting the downing (and the PAF is actually looking into this), preferably from a foreign source they have dealt a severe psychological blow to the average joe in Pakistan, without actually hitting anything. At the same time they have provided enough ammunition to India's keyboard warriors to spread disinformation around the world regarding the incident.

F-16 like any other weapon in our arsenal is a 'tool'. It can be destroyed/lost during war and peace. We need to stop "worshipping" the tools of war. Whenever we purchase/acquire any weapon of war we should be prepared to accept the unfortunate eventuality that a cunning enemy can take it out unless we give the enemy a chance because of our own criminal negligence. Then yes we should direct our anger towards those responsible for the mishap.

If we are unwilling to lose a tool of war to enemy action then we might as well turn it into a decoration piece

 

[darksider]

I think is not a good awenser.
It mean he him self have doubts about thia claim.

 

[NHUDA]

i think if in case anyone is still wondering a Mythbuster from Bellingcat has settled it forever in link here ... Indians need to get thr head out of thr arse and stop editing the wikipedia pages to satisfy thr moodiyapa

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2019/03/02/falcon-vs-bison-verifying-a-mig-21-wreck/

In summary, there’s no compelling evidence offered as of yet that an F-16 would have been shot down, and all signs point to MiG-21 wreckage having been on display thus far.

 

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1101537604586164225

 

[Arsalan]

The very reason I created this thread was to see how people on either side of the border would take losses in any current/future Indo-Pak air war (or an skirmish for that matter). I wanted to discuss the political and psychological impact of such losses. The very fact that thread turned into a troll-fest and the later passionate replies I got from some members in other threads validates my point .

I won't comment on the Indian side but here it is what I have observed on the Pakistani side.

We Pakistanis (the general public) are not mentally prepared to accept the loss of an F-16, at least the first one.

Ever since it's introduction we have treated the F-16 like our guardian angel. A near invincible machine which we believe the enemy can't get any close too. Any aerial threat that dares enter our airspace will be blown out of the sky by the very weapons it carries.

The Indian government knows this mentality of the Pakistani people and thanks to wikileaks so does the rest of the world. If they are lying about shooting down any of our jets then they could have chosen any aircraft in our fleet. Even the JF-17 would have been a good choice, yet they chose the F-16. We all know how the unease most of us felt when the Indians were posting here and there about the downing of an F-16. We only breathed a sigh of relief when we realized that their claims are largely bogus. They also know that until the PAF provides conclusive proof discrediting the downing (and the PAF is actually looking into this), preferably from a foreign source they have dealt a severe psychological blow to the average joe in Pakistan, without actually hitting anything. At the same time they have provided enough ammunition to India's keyboard warriors to spread disinformation around the world regarding the incident.

F-16 like any other weapon in our arsenal is a 'tool'. It can be destroyed/lost during war and peace. We need to stop "worshipping" the tools of war. Whenever we purchase/acquire any weapon of war we should be prepared to accept the unfortunate eventuality that a cunning enemy can take it out unless we give the enemy a chance because of our criminal negligence. Then yes we should direct our anger towards those responsible for the mishap.

If we are unwilling to lose a tool of war to enemy action then we might as well turn it into a decoration piece

Its not about accepting a loss. F-16 is a tool of war and we will loose if a war breaks out. It is not about accepting a loss of F16 but about accepting it when it is not there. Our jets are accounted for, the proof Indians gave for F-16 being shot was:

1. AIM-120C, which was in fact more about F16 being involved than it getting shot down
2. The pictures of their own Mig-21 that they tried to claim as F-16 derby (as shared and debunked in this thread)

I started this thread a few days ago (last friday) but it was merged with a thread discussing point 1 mentioned above so i had to separate it again today.

It shows as Written Off not Active. Don't know why Pakistani members Bhains k agay been bajanay lagay howay hain.

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PS: Do anyone know what will be possible squadron number of Indian Su-30s who participated in encounter?

Again, it is not about their Mig-21 getting shot. That is obvious and accepted by IAF already. We are talking about a supposed F-16 getting shot and the thread is aimed to debunk that myth with proof. If any new proof comes to light from IAF we will talk about it and study it further and then discuss it here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1101537604586164225

Yes. And a proof of F-16 getting shot they share AIM-120C body which MIGHT be proof of F16 getting involved, not getting shot AND the pictures shared in post 1 here that have been debunked to the best of my knowledge and information.

 

[Hyder404]

The wavy metal strip going around the entire circumference of the exhaust nozzle are a dead give away. No need for any more proof

 

[Lincoln]

It shows as Written Off not Active. Don't know why Pakistani members Bhains k agay been bajanay lagay howay hain.

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PS: Do anyone know what will be possible squadron number of Indian Su-30s who participated in encounter?

Check date, written off on 27 February, 2019; the date it was shot down. It was active back then and anyone who followed my original thread can confirm its active status, the website seems to have updated its database. You are simply late to the party.

 

[Joe Shearer]

How can we rescue gullible Indians like @Joe Shearer @KRAIT and many other regulars on this forum? I feel compelled to help them.

Not leaving my country to these barbarians. Indians are essentially democratic at heart; once the masses figure out what these creeps are about, they'll get their comeuppance. Before Pulwama, it was looking good; 55:45, according to the unseen Indian member on PDF. Now it's wrecked but there is still hope. Still 90 days to the elections.

PS: And less of the gullible. You figured out today what I've been saying for more than a decade.

 

[Asian.Century]

And now the Blacked Indians will claim Britishers, Airforce Monthly, Pakistanis, Americans all are lying, they have already labelled West in a negative tone that what they are all saying is BS. More fck humilation to come for Indians!!!

 

[Trango Towers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102191629291655168

I have seen this so many time and i still wet myself laughing

 

[Darth Vader]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102191629291655168

I have seen this so many time and i still wet myself laughing

lol love that

 

[Zee-shaun]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102191629291655168

I have seen this so many time and i still wet myself laughing

This cracks me up every time I watch it..

 

[Trango Towers]

Not leaving my country to these barbarians. Indians are essentially democratic at heart; once the masses figure out what these creeps are about, they'll get their comeuppance. Before Pulwama, it was looking good; 55:45, according to the unseen Indian member on PDF. Now it's wrecked but there is still hope. Still 90 days to the elections.

PS: And less of the gullible. You figured out today what I've been saying for more than a decade.

Wish more indians were like u joe. We had fight extremists for year now you have your hands full. India once was seen a home of democracy but now thats all in the past with the bjp terrorists who have all but taken india to war. Also we thought our media was bad. Mate our media are angels compared to your. I would pick tge devil himself over indian media. Terrible