My country won’t stand up against rape, but I have to stand up for the national anthem?

[dray]

I agree with ur logic.
not standing up for national anthem (in movie theater) is way more grave a crime than rapes, arson , lootings etc.

The true sense of patriotism, that the author is trying to emphasize does not rest in mere symbolism but essentially in what one believes and practices in one's daily life. The article is correct, in my opinion in a sense that majority of those who are gravely razed and offended by someone not standing up for national anthem may not feel the same about gender inequality,poverty, poor educational standards, corruptions, caste discrimination or pathetically lack of environmental cleanliness which need far more greater attention by the Indian society today.

I think, you are trying in vein to convince a set of 'patriots' who believe it is more necessary to thrash someone for not standing up during national anthem, but not those who openly spits or leaves a lady for being molested in a public place to fight her battle alone.

The point is, how many times those who thrashed the family in the theater have done the same when they saw someone taking bribe or urinating on road? We will be wrong if we think that the writer feels the other way if someone does not stand up during the anthem; but what she wants to make us realize that people who ignore much more graver issues in their day to day life must not feel so razed about an offence that is not even punishable by law.

Normally the discussions could have been about whether the actions of those people or that couple was right or not. But since we are discussing a different angle of the whole issue, let me ask you if there is anything to suggest that those set of people wouldn't have reacted similarly or more vehemently against the social ills that you have mentioned, if not, then how do you assume that they won't?

 

[baajey]

Normally the discussions could have been about whether the actions of those people or that couple was right or not. But since we are discussing a different angle of the whole issue, let me ask you if there is anything to suggest that those set of people wouldn't have reacted similarly or more vehemently against the social ills that you have mentioned, if not, then how do you assume that they won't?

usually ppl who do an actual job , don't resort to this type of chindichori n vice versa. But off course, u too have a point.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Does this world feel like hell to you? Of course it does, because it is. So take it all in, don't even blink . There's no place like hell! We made it so. With our lust, and greed. It always comes down to this. Life is desire. It's what we do. When desire meets desire, the stronger survives. The predator will eat the prey. It's dirty, and cruel. But just look around you, there is so much beauty in this truth. And yet you still look away. And you waste all your time alone in your head. Don't deny your desires. Hell is the real paradise. And we, my friend, are in paradise! Don't look away

 

[nForce]

Dear Indians....plz clarify me
.
Q: What you do at Home when someday by changing channel abruptly....you heard Anthem on Radio / Tv..??
a) you just stand up at home ...and take heed of it like a statue ?
b) stop taking ...water / food ...vice versa during sacred ritual??
c) stop switching channels and listen the tunes that has now befallen upon you??
d) or all above actions depends on MOOD? yes/no

Q: Where it is written...you must have to stand-up for that type of Congregations ??
a) you just found in some sacred biblical en parchments.....
b) if it is some kind of noble cause...then who is the BENEFICIARY??
c) NATIONALISM is new concept of 21st Centruy.....before that there was no Anthem, no Tunes, no Geographical limits....then how long it become mandatory for all of us to follow that procedures else you face HELL IN A CELL

Q: What is the real need of playing National Anthem before Movie in Cinema?? that question is pounding me like a hammer
a) Recreational activities are often done for enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure and are considered to be "fun"
b) What are the Indian definitions of recreational activity and leisure time?
c) Dont you think...people in cinema have committed bigger crime of tearing someone Soul instead of helping him out of that bad situation ??

Nobody plays the National Anthem abruptly. There are clear set of guidelines for that. Dereliction from that is also an offence. There is one set of guidelines provided by the Central Govt. The State govt. may have something in addition to that, but at no point less restrictive than the Central govt.

For Central Govt, these are the following rules :

Playing of the Anthem

1. The full version of the Anthem shall be played on the following occasions:
   1. Civil and Military investitures;
   2. When National Salute (which means the Command "Rashtriya Salute Salami Shastr" to the accompaniment of the National Anthem is given on ceremonial occasions to the President or to the Governor/Lieutenant Governor within their respective States/Union Territories;
   3. During parades irrespective of whether any of the dignitaries referred to in (ii) above is present or not;
   4. On arrival of the President at formal State functions and other functions organized by the Government and mass functions and on his departure from such functions;
   5. Immediately before and after the President addresses the Nation over All India Radio;
   6. On arrival of the Governor/Lieutenant Governor at formal State functions within his State/Union Territory and on his departure from such functions;
   7. When the National Flag is brought on parade;
   8. When the Regimental Colours are presented;
   9. For hoisting of colours in the Navy.
2. The short version of the Anthem shall be played when drinking toasts in Messes.
3. The Anthem shall be played on any other occasion for which special orders have been issued by the Government of India.
4. Normally the Anthem shall not be played for the Prime Minister, though there may be special occasions when it may be played.
5. When the National Anthem is played by a band, the Anthem will be preceded by a roll of drums to assist the audience to know that the National Anthem is going to be played, unless there is some other specific indication that the National Anthem is about to be played, as for example, when fanfares are sounded before the National Anthem is played, or when toasts are drunk to the accompaniment of the National Anthem or when the National Anthem constitutes the National Salute given by a Guard of Honour. The duration of the roll, in terms of marching drill, will be 7 paces in slow march. The roll will start slowly, ascend to as loud a volume as possible and then gradually decreases to original softness, but remaining audible until the seventh beat. One beat rest will then be observed before commencing the National Anthem.

Mass Singing of the Anthem

1. The full version of the Anthem shall be played accompanied by mass singing on the following occasions:
   1. On the unfurling of the National Flag, on cultural occasions or ceremonial functions other than parades. (This could be arranged by having a choir or adequate size, suitably stationed, which would be trained to coordinate its singing with the band etc. There should be an adequate public audition system so that the gathering in various enclosures can sing in unison with the choir);
   2. On arrival of the President at any Government or Public function (but excluding formal State functions and mess functions) and also immediately before his departure from such functions.
2. On all occasions when the National Anthem is sung, the full version shall be recited accompanied by mass singing.
3. The Anthem may be sung on occasions which, although not strictly ceremonial, are nevertheless invested with significance because of the presence of Ministers etc. The singing of the Anthem on such occasions (with or without the accompaniment of an instruments) accompanied by mass singing is desirable.
4. It is not possible to give an exhaustive list of occasions on which the singing (as distinct from playing) of the Anthem can be permitted. But there is no objection to the singing of the Anthem accompanied by mass singing so long as it is done with due respect as a salutation to the motherland and proper decorum is maintained.
5. In all schools, the day's work may begin with community singing of the anthem. School authorities should make adequate provision in their programmes for popularising the singing of the Anthem and promoting respect for the National Flag among students.

General

1. Whenever the Anthem is sung or played, the audience shall stand to attention. However, when in the course of a newsreel or documentary the Anthem is played as a part of the film, it is not expected of the audience to stand as standing is bound to interrupt the exhibition of the film and would create disorder and confusion rather than add to the dignity of the Anthem.
2. As in the case of the flying of the National Flag, it has been left to the good sense of the people not to indulge in indiscriminate singing or playing of the Anthem.

Source

 

[Super Falcon]

India becoming extremism state

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

India becoming extremism state

How troublesome...

 

[Vedicity]

India becoming extremism state

India is becoming a Hindu state, which is hell on earth.

 

[nForce]

India becoming extremism state

The sheer brilliance of your analysis had sent me into a 5 minute trance like state. I am still trying to recover from it.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

India is becoming a Hindu state, which is hell on earth.

Man, I wish I had a Bankai or something..

 

[Bombermanx1]

"Kickarse"- nope, thats assault, but they have the right to express their displeasure, as was done by the crowd in this case. That I fully support.

Well,you seen the overwhelming Majority in the theater clapped and cheered when they went out.
Before the National anthem was played there was reminder before it started stating that it was in honor of the 26/11 martyrs and victims and urged everyone to stand up to honor for their sacrifice.It was played on 26/11 and that moron and his family didn't even had the courtesy to stand up for 55 seconds to honor those 26/11 martyrs while watching the film in Mumbai where this Incident happened.

Dear Indians....plz clarify me
.
Q: What you do at Home when someday by changing channel abruptly....you heard Anthem on Radio / Tv..??
a) you just stand up at home ...and take heed of it like a statue ?
b) stop taking ...water / food ...vice versa during sacred ritual??
c) stop switching channels and listen the tunes that has now befallen upon you??
d) or all above actions depends on MOOD? yes/no

Q: Where it is written...you must have to stand-up for that type of Congregations ??
a) you just found in some sacred biblical en parchments.....
b) if it is some kind of noble cause...then who is the BENEFICIARY??
c) NATIONALISM is new concept of 21st Centruy.....before that there was no Anthem, no Tunes, no Geographical limits....then how long it become mandatory for all of us to follow that procedures else you face HELL IN A CELL

Q: What is the real need of playing National Anthem before Movie in Cinema?? that question is pounding me like a hammer
a) Recreational activities are often done for enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure and are considered to be "fun"
b) What are the Indian definitions of recreational activity and leisure time?
c) Dont you think...people in cinema have committed bigger crime of tearing someone Soul instead of helping him out of that bad situation ??

1)
a)YES WE do stand up even if its in our home.

2 a) It is the rule of law to stand up there are many cases regarding this.But these can be excused if the person is Differently abled or Medically sick.(Which was not in this case).
b)The noble cause was to Honor those martyrs.Pakistan might not have a sense of Nationalism,being under ummah concept but we do just like other non-islamic states.
c) Nationalism concept was not new, even in olden times there were songs praising and glorifying the kingdom and Kings to boost the morale of people and Army in peacetime and War.

3 A)The national Anthem was played on 26/11 in Mumbai cinema halls to honor the martyrs of 26/11.Before the Anthem was played message was displayed across the screen that this was in honor of those 26/11 martyrs and asked them to please stand up to honor them when the National Anthem was played and the guy couldn't even stand up for 55 seconds.

B)All he was expected was to stand for 55 seconds to honor those who saved him and many other Mumbaikars during 26/11 that was the least expected, when he didn't do it,it ticked off many people who protested and asked him to stand,when people were getting shot and police were getting killed to stop terrorists, his answer was "its my choice i won't stand" etc. Thats when the crowd got angry and subsequently the theater management asked them to leave instead of creating a ruckus.

c)The people were perfectly justified in that act.You don't want to honor those who guard your safety day and night and died in that process to save you on 26/11.Which idiot does that.
There are some rules to be followed when you are in a society,you can't act as you wish.We are not America for that matter.Our country our rules.

Here is the complete video that was played in the theater and the crowd asking them to stand up,watch it and tell me who is wrong here.

 

[Sky lord]

The sheer brilliance of your analysis had sent me into a 5 minute trance like state. I am still trying to recover from it.

That Mr. Nforce was funny

 

[scorpionx]

Normally the discussions could have been about whether the actions of those people or that couple was right or not. But since we are discussing a different angle of the whole issue, let me ask you if there is anything to suggest that those set of people wouldn't have reacted similarly or more vehemently against the social ills that you have mentioned, if not, then how do you assume that they won't?

It is simply wrong to believe in the first place, that those who are offended for not standing up during playing of National Anthem will not stand against crimes, punishable by laws. This is a misunderstanding from the beginning most are suffering with. But at the same point of time, numbers of those scrupulous lot who will force a couple out of a theater but chose to remain silent on issues which needed serious attention exceeds those by a fair margin who actually protest on the later. If those so concerned about a mere standing up during national anthem had had been equally concerned enough about crimes and corruptions of daily lives this country would have been a far more cleaner and better place to live in.

 

[Super Falcon]

The sheer brilliance of your analysis had sent me into a 5 minute trance like state. I am still trying to recover from it.

Bettter recover it in 5 secs

 

[nForce]

Bettter recover it in 5 secs

Even more brilliant. Now why didn't I think of that?!

 

[Super Falcon]

Even more brilliant. Now why didn't I think of that?!

Now half a quarter hahaha just kidding hows the day