My boyfriend told me he comes from a small town in China, so I went there and..

[Foinikas]

There some substance to what Beijingwalker posts even though it could be exaggerated. But the deeper you dig into Indian or American fake news the more fluff you find. China has a problem with censorship sure, that’s their approach to controlling information, better to not say anything than say too much. The Indian and American approach is to flood the media with so much BS you don’t even know what’s fake or real anymore.

I think you're the one exaggerating now...

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Ok, I always think suburbs are something attached to the cities, if there are no cities, there'll be no suburbs to start with. anyway , cities are still the image of a country, to have them piled with trash and infested with rats won't help a country's image building.

You simply think China going the route we did 100 years ago of skyscraper cities is the pinnacle of modern living. We have moved on from that frame of mind and you simply can’t comprehend it.

Just like you probably thought owning a bicycle was the pinnacle of travel now you think the same way about cities. Things change..the bike becomes the car and the city becomes the suburb. You just can’t comprehend the connection.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

China of the 2020s actually reminds me of the 1980/1990s US. Ofcourse the infrastructure is updated better in China because US simply did not prioritize that. We should not forget when it comes to resources the US is simply I'm a different league - land space, untapped energy, real higher education and research etc.

For a US resident what is a wonderful living arrangement is very different. Many (Inc me) keep a pied a Terre in the city and the real house in a suburb and some sort of vacation home or a log cabin somewhere nice. A certain degree of privacy and remoteness is preferred so those tall match box flats are not really the thing though unavoidable in the coastal cities.

And then you go inland or the south, and the American Dream house and city is very different. The common factor being it is a lifestyle very different from what I've seen in China.

The big Chinese cities quite frankly are very similar to the metros elsewhere in the world though perhaps more conscious about pollution than other developing world cities.

Ofcourse if you don't make good money life is a struggle whether Manhattan or Kansas or Beijing.

 

[beijingwalker]

You simply think China going the route we did 100 years ago of skyscraper cities is the pinnacle of modern living. We have moved on from that frame of mind and you simply can’t comprehend it.

Just like you probably thought owning a bicycle was the pinnacle of travel now you think the same way about cities. Things change..the bike becomes the car and the city becomes the suburb. You just can’t comprehend the connection.

I m not only talking about skycrapers, i m talking about overall infrastructure, which US didn't build much in the past decade and now the old infra increasingly becomes a problem and even US government admits. You can't rest on your laurels forever, this world now is changing fast by the day, the next time you check, you will be very far behind.

We can't imagine a powerful countries without many big cities, cities are the very important fruits of human societal development and big business and industrial activities all evolve around cities, a country needs vibrant cities for growth and development, not all the countries are fit to become retirement homes.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I m not only talking about skycrapers, i m talking about overall infrastructure, which US didn't build much in the past decade and now the old infra increasingly becomes a problem and even US government admits. You can't rest on your laurels forever, this world now is changing fast by the day, the next time you check, you will be very far behind.

We can't imagine a powerful countries without many big cities, cities are the very important fruits of human societal development and big business and industrial activities all evolve around cities, a country needs vibrant cities for growth and development, not all the countries are fit to become retirement homes.

You keep talking about infrastructure but then focus on big American cities which 90% of Americans don’t even live in. A large part of the infrastructure changes you talk about the US needing is located in these cities.

Was the majority of the Chinese population living in your definition of “vibrant cities” back in 1950? Does that mean development was impossible? Is that your explanation as to why nothing much came out of China over the last 500 years because not much of the population lived in “vibrant cities”. Is that why your country has turned to the west for the tech to build these “vibrant cities”...because before western tech you were nothing??

 

[Foinikas]

You keep talking about infrastructure but then focus on big American cities which 90% of Americans don’t even live in. A large part of the infrastructure changes you talk about the US needing is located in these cities.

Was the majority of the Chinese population living in your definition of “vibrant cities” back in 1950? Does that mean development was impossible? Is that your explanation why nothing much came out of China over the last 500 years because not much of the population lived in “vibrant cities”. Is that why your country has turned to the west for the tech to build these vibrant cities..because before western tech you were nothing??

Most just started really living after the 2000s

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

You simply think China going the route we did 100 years ago of skyscraper cities is the pinnacle of modern living. We have moved on from that frame of mind and you simply can’t comprehend it.

Just like you probably thought owning a bicycle was the pinnacle of travel now you think the same way about cities. Things change..the bike becomes the car and the city becomes the suburb. You just can’t comprehend the connection.

lol most advanced countries including Canada are more urbanized than the US so you are literally going against the flow of history.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

lol most advanced countries including Canada are more urbanized than the US so you are literally going against the flow of history.

Lol! But isn’t this why the US leads the world in the generation of ideas/products that become popular worldwide is because we think differently.

How has living in dense cities helped generate ideas like the internet or smartphones or self-driving cars or smart assistants or cashierless supermarket’s?

Why did 2 guys in some no-name place in Ohio outsmart all the greatest minds the world had ever seen and invented the airplane?

How could Steve Jobs create Apple computer from a life of growing up in someplace with a population of less than 50,000?

Larry Page from that mega city of Lansing with a population of -112,000 puts his headquarters in MountainView (population. 85,000)

 

[Mista]

69th thread which @beijingwalker and @Hamartia Antidote argues over trains, infrastructure, cities, and suburbs.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

69th thread which @beijingwalker and @Hamartia Antidote argues over trains, infrastructure, cities, and suburbs.

Notice how he plays dumb and just rehashes the same questions over and over that were already answered in the previous 68 threads.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Lol! But isn’t this why the US leads the world in the generation of ideas/products that become popular worldwide is because we think differently.

How has living in dense cities helped generate ideas like the internet or smartphones or self-driving cars or smart assistants or cashierless supermarket’s?

Why did 2 guys in some no-name place in Ohio outsmart all the greatest minds the world had ever seen and invented the airplane?

How could Steve Jobs create Apple computer from a life of growing up some place with a population of less than 50,000?

Internet as we know it was invented at CERN by a highly urbanized British man.

The first touchscreen smartphone was the LG Prada, invented in highly urbanized South Korea, by Korean company LG, released in 2006, predating the iPhone.

Steve Jobs, are you kidding me LMAO he lived within walking distance to San Jose, a major city of 1 million, and within 15 minutes drive (without traffic) to San Francisco and Oakland.

Economic efficiency drives innovation.

 

[Great Janjua]

Chinese wife in Bharat learning desi customs..

Oh lan kuri vich len deyo.

 

[Mista]

Notice how he plays dumb and just rehashes the same questions over and over that were already answered in the previous 68 threads.

I personally prefer living in the cities where amenities are accessible and convenient, but I can also see the appeal of living in the suburbs where homes are larger and it's less crowded. Singapore is a city-state, so we have the only option of living in a dense city. We make do and optimize with what have, and make very deliberate policy decisions in minimizing the downsides of living in a dense city. Housing, greenery, water, traffic, pollution, etc.

However, I wouldn't mock and brag that we have longer metro than larger and less dense countries like Norway or Australia. We have different strengths and weaknesses.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Internet as we know it was invented at CERN by a highly urbanized British man.

The first touchscreen smartphone was the LG Prada, invented in highly urbanized South Korea, by Korean company LG, released in 2006, predating the iPhone.

Steve Jobs, are you kidding me LMAO he lived within walking distance to San Jose, a major city of 1 million, and within 15 minutes drive (without traffic) to San Francisco and Oakland.

Economic efficiency drives innovation.

The World Wide Web is not the internet

First smartphone was way before LG.

A (Mostly) Quick History of Smartphones - Cellular Sales

The history of smartphones is fascinating, spanning over several decades. Discover how the innovation of the cell phone has changed over the years.

www.cellularsales.com

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

The World Wide Web is not the internet

First smartphone was way before LG.

A (Mostly) Quick History of Smartphones - Cellular Sales

The history of smartphones is fascinating, spanning over several decades. Discover how the innovation of the cell phone has changed over the years.

www.cellularsales.com

The internet as we know it and is usable by civilians is the WWW. Prior to that it was some obscure military technology like titanium hulls for Soviet submarines.

The smartphone as we know it, which uses a touchscreen as the primary interface and was the selling point of Apple, was done by LG first.

All this is cope for having shit infrastructure.