MV Suez crew shifted; ship sinking

[Safriz]

if the ship is 100 something miles from the port then why cant the port authorities send a couple of tugboats to rescue MV Suez?

who will pay the charges? owner has run away and port authorities are not bound to tow a ship for free.
Legly speaking. if the captain transmits an SOS then any rescuing ship can tow away the ship in distress and a
claim salvage. Even PNS Babur can do this if the ship has towing gear and required engine power. The ship can be legally auctioned to cover all costs and even to send crew back home.

 

[Spring Onion]

The point is simple. You expected that Indian navy save an egyptian ship with Pakistani captain and a few indian members. But the real point is that job can be done by anybody who is available there at that point of time.

seriously we dint expected at all. The Indian sailors though did expect. as far as Egyptian and Pakistani reference if was the point for IN to avoid helping then surely its a professional attitude.

2. if anybody could have saved it then why IN poked its nose at the last minute when the ship was out of danger.

3. leave everything aside, but why IN made up drama against PNS babur?

There is no written law that Indians should only save Indians or Malaysians should only save malaysians etc etc.

Had anybody said that ? we are only saying that when Indians were contacted they refused to take up the job and when it was done by Pakistan then your Navy unnecessarily started melding

Babur was near , responded and done that job. The point and arguments ends there. I saw most posting Indians didnt pay for ransom and all and all including you having a field time.

We only replies about payment when your bharatis aka Indian members start abusing Pakistan and spreading propaganda. when it was paid Nobody mentioned it but only after Indians once again out of frustration started maligning Pakistan.

Even a PRO-Indian activists like Ansar Burney today said "If India cant thank Pakistan then atleast nashukri tau na karo" by making lies against Pakistan.

This was not the first time that Indians are involved in hostage situation along with other nationalities, who do you think paid for them at that time Uganda???

Tell this to your Indian members and also Indian govt who had made stupid excuse saying they dont pay ransom to criminals. one wonders where was this principle when you paid to pirates (as you claim).

So i can only laugh while reading all the arguments saying "see we paid" and all.

Surely on your own people not at us as we are only telling the truth

Not so long ago i have started a thread on even my state separately paying for flood aid happened in Pakistan, i never said "see we paid, blahh blah blah" and tried to score some brownie points there.

my and other members' memory is not that short NOT to remember how Indian members scoring brownie points and calling trade as aid (when we bought potatoes from India by paying money and not getting as aid)


and if you paid during floods then everyone does so in natural calamity not a big deal.

 

[Spring Onion]

The Hindu : Front Page : India, Pakistan accuse each other's Navies of aggression on high seas

It's the Stupidity of the Pakistani Captain to ignore Indian Navy's Call which could have jeopardised 22 Innocent Lives.

Oh when it was called for help it did not come so when PNS escorted it out of dangerous water then here comes the INS for scoring point but failed miserably.

anyway your Indian facepalm failed big time.

so move on and dont come up with your lies again and again which were already busted by your own Indian sailors who said Indian naval ship did not contact them.

it was stupidity of Indian Navy to hit PNS Babur in frustration

 

[Safriz]

dont think the captain will indulge in politics after traumatic time spent with pirates.Psychologically he would have opted for the best and most reliable helping hand which was a pakistan navy ship.
if Indian navy were more reliable then by the virtue of human nature a man in distress couldnt have rejected their offer of help. but they werent.

 

[chops3d]

damn, News x previous video had the statement from illeterate news casters that, 'pakistan chopper and european navy ship is involved in the rescue' and i laughed my arse off like a mad guy, because it didnt even make sense here, as the chopper was pakistan but navy ship from where the chopper came was 'European', later the 'hostages' said, it was not even an indian ship, but a pakistani ship named babur who came to their rescue and indians didnt pick up phone call o the hostages..

damn india media cashing from this story in which they have no contribution

 

[Safriz]

mr ravan ji,,

indian navy have done this many times...nothing new....u ppl leave no chance to be in news and attention..

done this many tims? you mean they catch fish and crabs while other are sinking? (yeah i know. troll comment )
lol@ mr.ravan

 

[Paan Singh]

done this many tims? you mean they catch fish and crabs while other are sinking? (yeah i know. troll comment )

even UN appreciated us for this fish catching

 

[SpArK]

seriously we dint expected at all. The Indian sailors though did expect. as far as Egyptian and Pakistani reference if was the point for IN to avoid helping then surely its a professional attitude.

2. if anybody could have saved it then why IN poked its nose at the last minute when the ship was out of danger..

IN send Godawaari due to media outcry of failure to reach earlier.

3. leave everything aside, but why IN made up drama against PNS babur?

We dont know for sure yet of what happened really. You believe ur guys, we believe our guys and the argument goes on.

Had anybody said that ? we are only saying that when Indians were contacted they refused to take up the job and when it was done by Pakistan then your Navy unnecessarily started melding

To reach that spot in Arabian sea at lesser time than PN is impossible due to geographical reasons. PN reached henced saved.

IN reached later just for namesake.

And IN doesnt necessarily need to bring Egyptian ship to India. So they left after visit.

We only replies about payment when your bharatis aka Indian members start abusing Pakistan and spreading propaganda. when it was paid Nobody mentioned it but only after Indians once again out of frustration started maligning Pakistan.

Thats a thing between you and bharatis aka Indians and i dont wanna comment on that. (read my signature for clues)

Even a PRO-Indian activists like Ansar Burney today said "If India cant thank Pakistan then atleast nashukri tau na karo" by making lies against Pakistan.

We didnt have the oppertunity to thank as PN scored the first shot by protesting.

Tell this to your Indian members and also Indian govt who had made stupid excuse saying they dont pay ransom to criminals. one wonders where was this principle when you paid to pirates (as you claim).

I dont think Indian members and Indian Government wil listen to SpArk of PDF.

Surely on your own people not at us as we are only telling the truth

Truth is a convienent excuse. ou believe ur story is true, we believe in ours. Not going to end the long argument and i am sure with ur foruming experience you surely knows there wont be a conclusion on this debate.

my and other members' memory is not that short NOT to remember how Indian members scoring brownie points and calling trade as aid (when we bought potatoes from India by paying money and not getting as aid)

So you are agreeing ur arguments here in this thread is nothing but reciprocal action of Indians scoring brownie points.

and if you paid during floods then everyone does so in natural calamity not a big deal

Exactly my point also. There is no need to boast "see we paid for poor Bharatis aka Indians aka Hindustanis aka Shinings , they cant pay for its people.

 

[Spring Onion]

IN send Godawaari due to media outcry of failure to reach earlier.

Then onus and weakness rest with Indian navy. not other way round.
just for media sake if it did then it wasnt professional either

We dont know for sure yet of what happened really. You believe ur guys, we believe our guys and the argument goes on.

More than our guys our point is based on facts and logic. you can follow the same sans any bias so you will also agree

To reach that spot in Arabian sea at lesser time than PN is impossible due to geographical reasons. PN reached henced saved.

again we are not contesting why you dint reach in time we are questioning what was the need to reach when everything was done and why to make a fuss out of nothing at the end by you

IN reached later just for namesake.

that was uncalled for. professional navies dont do that for namesake

And IN doesnt necessarily need to bring Egyptian ship to India. So they left after visit.

))))))))))))))))))) holds no weight

Thats a thing between you and bharatis aka Indians and i dont wanna comment on that. (read my signature for clues)

sorry i dint know you were Brit

We didnt have the oppertunity to thank as PN scored the first shot by protesting.

lame excuse as the shot came after a long time when IN poked its nose

I dont think Indian members and Indian Government wil listen to SpArk of PDF.

not an issue you can call spade a spade

Truth is a convienent excuse. ou believe ur story is true, we believe in ours. Not going to end the long argument and i am sure with ur foruming experience you surely knows there wont be a conclusion on this debate.

I am only concern even if one Indian in his heart accept the truth and stop making up lies that will be a victory for humanity

So you are agreeing ur arguments here in this thread is nothing but reciprocal action of Indians scoring brownie points.

Nops i am only telling you that your claim was false

Exactly my point also. There is no need to boast "see we paid for poor Bharatis aka Indians aka Hindustanis aka Shinings , they cant pay for its people.

we are not as long as your members refrain from abusing us

 

[SpArK]

1 Then onus and weakness rest with Indian navy. not other way round.
just for media sake if it did then it wasnt professional either

2 More than our guys our point is based on facts and logic. you can follow the same sans any bias so you will also agree

again we are not contesting why you dint reach in time we are questioning what was the need to reach when everything was done and why to make a fuss out of nothing at the end by you

3 that was uncalled for. professional navies dont do that for namesake

4 ))))))))))))))))))) holds no weight

5 sorry i dint know you were Brit

6 lame excuse as the shot came after a long time when IN poked its nose

7 not an issue you can call spade a spade

8 I am only concern even if one Indian in his heart accept the truth and stop making up lies that will be a victory for humanity

9 Nops i am only telling you that your claim was false

10 we are not as long as your members refrain from abusing us

1 IN has been more successful in acting against piracy and its not good to generalise them as a weakness just for the point that they failed to reach there first this time around.

2 LOL

3 It was to ensure they are safe after leaving the port to seek the ship.

4 LOL

5 I was in Britain for 3 years , will that count )

6 No point in arguing 'i was right, because i say so" kinda argument.

7 ok a spade is a spade .

8 In short all should agree , ok i will agree whatever u say, just to see u happy my dear.

9 Ok jana is always right.

10 Atleast i am not abusing anybody, i am a very good boy oops man.


PS: Lets stop this reply game right now, i have some other thread to attend too.

And thank you for the wonderful talk we had.

 

[Spring Onion]

9 Ok jana is always right.

10 Atleast i am not abusing anybody, i am a very good boy oops man.

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lets agree on two points

 

[SpArK]

Govt hands over pictures supporting charges against Pak's PNS Babur - India - DNA

 

[Archie]

Why does he rrwuires an order from the owner of the ship to move

Something to do with age old tradition of captain going down with the ship , though not many are courageous enough to follow it now