Muslims leave France for ‘UAE dream’

[Spring Onion]

there are rules and behaviors which are very important to French.
they don't like religious extremism, be it christian or muslim. they value moderate religion that you are not promoting publically: religion is for you not a show off and not something you try to push people to have the same.
another behavior they like is respect of the woman. a woman totally hidden behind tissues as they say is a shame for the condition of a woman.
many more.
i get some people prefer to live in a different way: it is their choice . that's why i said they are welcomed to leave and go somewhere the values are matching theirs.
but let's stop this crap muslims are not respected here. there are problems but it is over exagerated.

They say, they consider, they want, all these revolve around them and not human rights. If in Muslim countries they force women to be covered then in France or such society they are forcing women to uncover. In both the cases it is what they want not what women want.

Being woman i feel they are not respecting women but implying own choices on women in every society

 

[Luffy 500]

Muslims need to do nothing, that is a solution in itself. Beliefs are never a problem, actions almost always are.

What actions r u talking abt? And going by recent statements from their politicians it seems they also have a problem with beliefs ?

Luffy, give it a rest. Go join ISIS. Your drivel doesn't have any customers.

What has ISIS got to do with this thread? U persians seem to be in love with ISIS. Hallucinate abt ISIS everywhere.

There's one sure-fire solution.....GET THE F*CK OUT !!!

But US is the land of immigrants with a official policy of spreading secular liberal filthy way of life to the rest of the world. U people don't seem to want solutions at all.

 

[UKBengali]

Remember folks, there is always fault both ways.

Immigrants should respect the culture of the host country but the hosts
should also respect those that are a little different to them.

 

[Srinivas]

France along with the rest of the liberal secular states in the west r intolerant racist & bigoted. Liberalism itself is a intolerant bigoted ideology anyway. It just that france openly advocates the true nature of their filthy ideology unlike their british and american cousins.



What do u mean by french culture? What does it constitute? I mean what do u expect muslims to get out of their way and do to be tolerated in such an egalitarian society? It clearly seems that liberal secular egaltarian french society doesn't like the muslims living ordinary life and expect something more? WHat is that more?

Ok key board fighter, you need to know the ground realities and come out of those fairy tales.

Their country , their rules. You have no right to question them.

Instead quietly migrate to your brother nations and live peacefully.

 

[jamahir]

France along with the rest of the liberal secular states in the west r intolerant racist & bigoted. Liberalism itself is a intolerant bigoted ideology anyway. It just that france openly advocates the true nature of their filthy ideology unlike their british and american cousins.

says one who is member of tableeghi jamaat and supports beheadings and burnings of syrians by qaeda and taliban and ikhwaan.

 

[Spring Onion]

Good news for France !!! On a side note, the guy in the pic looks like a camel. Holy shit !! I'm an ugly dude but next to him I look like Brad Pitt.

his cute and beautiful daughter proves that his wife must be like Angelina

We have an idiom in Pashto that ask God for destiny not for a beautiful face as beauties are servants of the rich . the idiom has a story behind it

 

[Lord ZeN]

They say, they consider, they want, all these revolve around them and not human rights. If in Muslim countries they force women to be covered then in France or such society they are forcing women to uncover. In both the cases it is what they want not what women want.
Being woman i feel they are not respecting women but implying own choices on women in every society

See you are also setting 2 different standard for Muslim & Western countries. Plus even men in France can't wear full covered Burkha (so they don't discriminate between men & women) while Muslim countries only force women to cover their face( it's a pure gender discrimination).

 

[Abii]

Remember folks, there is always fault both ways.

Immigrants should respect the culture of the host country but the hosts
should also respect those that are a little different to them.

You can't go into somebody's house and expect that. If you're so different that you constantly have to explain yourself to erase question marks, then it's time to assimilate. Racism shouldn't be tolerated of course, but a man walking around in a dress and covering a woman in a tent (burka) will bring a million question marks. Do that in the middle of Tehran and you will get looks and get harassed. In the West they actually treat people like that a lot better than what they should.

Nobody's saying racism is okay. But acting like you're still living in downtown Kabul or Islamabad while living in New York or Paris is bigotry and racism towards the local population. Lack of respect at the very least. If you go out of your way to show that much disrespect then who knows what else you're capable of. That brings out the distrust and question marks. That brings out ill treatment towards your ilk in the future.

 

[Spring Onion]

says one who is member of tableeghi jamaat and supports beheadings and burnings of syrians by qaeda and taliban and ikhwaan.

tableeghi jamats dont support beheading . their philosophy is like sufis

 

[Luffy 500]

Remind him of the rape statistics too in the United States and moral decline, a lot of Mullahs are obsessed with it along with everything feminine. Lets get the party started.

@boomslang Go easy on the man in the picture, his looks aren't of any concern to anyone.

Yes rape is an integral part of liberal secular values. I think he knows that already. Btw why r u so obsessed with "mullahs".

Exactly. People like him give the rest of us a bad name. Terrorists like him should never even be allowed to come in. My parents both had post graduate degrees and my dad was a phd candidate. Both had money. My grandparents came in by investing hundreds of thousands of dollars into a business. We are all proud of Canada and consider ourselves Canadians as well as Iranians. It took some time, but we all assimilated.

Then there are terrorists that come here with a potato sack on their back, no money, no education and after 18 generations they still wear dresses outside and they give us all a bad name and reputation. How the **** did these people get in? Why are they allowed to live in a civilized society if they believe in anarchy, terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism? Get the **** out.

How does some muslims lack of money/education give u a bad name? R u a muslim? And even if u r how how does it concern u? I thought the western values of individualism and "freedom for all" negates such connotations of community. And why do u have a problem with their dress? Aren't they free to wear whatever they want in a liberal society? It seems u don't abide by much cherished liberal egalitarian values. May be your parents didn't integrate so well as u think?

 

[Srinivas]

his cute and beautiful daughter proves that his wife must be like Angelina

We have an idiom in Pashto that ask God for destiny not for a beautiful face as beauties are servants of the rich . the idiom has a story behind it

What if the face is from grand parents or in laws, There is chance of family genes becoming dominant.

Regarding beauty, some times it becomes a curse. But again there are always ways to counter it.

It is not the beauty that gets one in trouble but the attitude and thinking.

 

[Spring Onion]

See you are also setting 2 different standard for Muslim & Western countries. Plus even men in France can't wear full covered Burkha (so they don't discriminate between men & women) while Muslim countries only force women to cover their face( it's a pure gender discrimination).

forget about males.

Women have the right to wear whatever they want be it a bikini or a burqa.

Both conservative extremists and liberal extremists are imposing their own shit on women playing their politics ast the cost of women

 

[Luffy 500]

tableeghi jamats dont support beheading . their philosophy is like sufis

That guy lives in his own gadaffied cocoon.

 

[Spring Onion]

What if the face is from grand parents or in laws, There is chance of family genes becoming dominant.

Regarding beauty, some times it becomes a curse. But again there are always ways to counter it.

It is not the beauty that gets one in trouble but the attitude and thinking.

this boomslang was calling him ugly abusing him on basis of looks that was in response to his comments not about the situation

 

[Srinivas]

this boomslang was calling him ugly abusing him on basis of looks that was in response to his comments not about the situation

Oh .... you got offended by the abuse of fellow muslim, fine np.

I thought you are talking about Angelina Jolie and beauty of women