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Muslim soldier of Indian Army, barred from using 'Jai Hind', warned of a court martial.

Jat Regiment motto is "Jat Balwan Jai Bhagawan". No one ever complained about that.
Complaints? In the Armed Forces of any nation, there are no complaints tolerated against regulations. If someone does, he will be warned, else court martialed.
 
Something is wrong...Even i agree with Maulavi if it is really said to him....Jai Hind is slogan of pride much more than any religious chant...When a solidier fights on war..they fight for Nation....In India all kinds of politics happens...
And in particular these maulavi,Mullahs and all kind of Baba's are just sick...they create all issues..


Maulvi in Indian Army ‘censured’ for saying Jai Hind

Raghav Ohri,ET Bureau | Sep 18, 2014, 12.09 PM IST



CHANDIGARH: Made famous by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, the salutation "Jai Hind" was coined by Major Abid Hasan Zafrani of the Azad Hind Fauj. Two decades after Zafrani's death, a Muslim priest of the Indian Army has approached the President of India, the National Commission of Minorities and Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav alleging that his superior officers have censured him for using the slogan because it "sends a message of religious hatred and extremism".

Subedar Ishrat Ali alleges his commanding officer has served him a notice warning him to "rise above narrow mindedness", and instead salute by using "Ram, Ram" and "Jai Mata Di" — the official battalion slogans — or face "disciplinary action". Ali told ET from Bikaner that he has protested and written to his superior officers.

He has informed them that it is impossible for him to use the said salutes as they are Hindu religious chants and he is an Islamic priest. On his behalf, his wife Shehnaz Bano has written to the President of India and the National Commission for Minorities, Delhi, with a copy to the Uttar Pradesh chief minister complaining of "mental torture and harassment" and demanding justice.

Ali's commanding officer Colonel Chitra Sen refused to comment on the issue and said Army HQ had all the relevant information. "Army is absolutely secular. We respect salutation of Jai Hind and all battle cries," said Major General Shokin Chauhan, additional director general, public information, without getting into the details of Subedar Ali's complaints.

Leading lawyer Rajeev Anand, who took premature retirement as assistant commandant of Border Security Force, was critical of the notice issued to Ali. "This is totally wrong. Salutations are in the name of the country and not in the name of a religion. They all are soldiers of India. Passing such directives are totally untenable."

The notice issued to Ali asks him to change his salutation. "The task of Army's religious teacher is to enthuse the spirit of patriotism, zeal and unity in the jawans, while the slogan of Jai Hind (Long Live India) sends a message of religious hatred and extremism. If you do not rise above narrowmindedness and do not salute by shouting 'Ram Ram' and 'Jai Mata di', as per the rules of the battalion disciplinary action will be taken against you," it says. "You are a religious teacher and your job is to enthuse patriotism, zeal and spirit of unity in the jawans. Your action (the utterance of Jai Hind) does not only send a message of religious hatred and extremism but also reflects upon your lack of knowledge; and that will not be tolerated."

In his 22 years of service as a maulvi, Ali claims he was never asked not to use "Jai Hind" until July when he was verbally "warned" to shun the slogan and resort to shouting "Ram Ram and Jai Mata Ki" or else face a court martial.

"I have served the Army for 22 years, saluted many chiefs including General VK Singh and others who never objected to it. Jai Hind is a slogan, which marks patriotism. How can I be faulted for being a patriot?" he asks. Ali claims his "harassment" began in May this year after his return from Sudan, after a seven-month special assignment.

According to him, he is being targeted for his earlier complaint against a junior maulvi being sent to Sudan. "I had served at Rajputana Rifles centre, Delhi, for 10 years but was transferred to Rajputana Rifles (3 Raj Rif Bikaner) because I had complained against the move to send a junior of mine to Sudan. After my complaint I was sent to Sudan but immediately after my return I was posted to Bikaner, Rajasthan," Ali told ET over the phone from there.

Ali added that he petitioned the Delhi high court against the transfer citing the ill health of his wife who is a heart patient and is undergoing treatment. In his petition, Ali had also mentioned that since he is left with two years of service and his two daughters and a son are studying in Delhi, he be allowed to serve in the capital.

Although his initial case was rejected on the grounds of delay, his review petition is hanging fire in the Delhi high court. Ali says that on August 17, he refused to sign his annual confidential report (ACR), which according to him was tarnished "deliberately". A second notice was issued to him over this issue.


Maulvi in Army ‘censured’ for saying Jai Hind - The Times of India
 
And they wonder why 35% Muslims don't make up even 2% of Indian armed forces.

Beacuse they have a better fascinatio for other kind of Army and fighter than serving for nation...Classic example is available in PDF itself...Again, on the topic..I also feel, this is wrong thing done by the Army man to not to shout Jai Hind..if i was given a choice..I shout Jai Hind more than any religious chant
 
I wont be surprised if India became Muslim majority state in few decades n another partion..... **** gandi n Nehru
Ok .. first of all stop watching WWE than we can talk about what's the real situation and what's choreographed.
 
IA is voluntary. Don't join it. You can also try remedying the situation by lodging a case in the ICJ and declare IA illegal like Waffen SS.

ISIS sympathizer logic.

@Indischer - I can see you are counter trolling successfully in this thread started by a (possibly) crazy Indophobic troll. Me likes :D

What can I say.....I'm a troll with a conscience.:partay:
 
Really????? Ok
not ok ...
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May i troll here?:cool:
 
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good that it ccame to light. this kinda sttuff should be dealt with harshly. this kinda sstuff is very demoralising. poor chap and his wife. they should bloody sue these guys.
 
@pursuit of happiness
Improve your comprehension skills. I said that Pakistani government might want non-Muslims in armed forces.

India might want Muslims in armed forces but we Indian Muslims don't want to join. Mainly due to discrimination and since the enemy country is Pakistan which also happens to an Islamic state.
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will take your suggestion thanks
Pakistani government might want non-Muslims in armed forces.
how many pakistani non mulsim in thier arms and cilvilian top brass decsion making or in key facilit?

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who said muslim dont wnat to join ....
prrof alrady given b econmist link before .. that your stmanet not valid
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pakistan islamic state ..
before going ahead..
if your are ahemdai .. you are not pakistani /muslim as per their constitituion.. so its not your subject
if you are shia....please do see how its been trarted thre
if you are sunni . .. you mihgt have chance ...
can you elbrate what you mease by islmisc sate ..?
hee.. waht a joke...
ask pakistani forum memebre .. will they subcribe this ?
is paksitani constitutin is claimed that ?
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india had 3 war with pak..
indian soldires faaught wit
PM Modi says Indian Muslims will live for India, die for India : North, News - India Today
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you have right have your view
but its better if you back it up by proof and logic
 
wtf .... why would ram ram or jai mata di be official battalion slogan...
good on you maulana for bringing this out in open...
@pursuit of happiness muslims feel muscled out from many govt institution in India..
 
@mujhaidind
action speak louder ....
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Abdul Hamid- Param Vir Chakra
1 July 1933 – 10 September 1965) was a soldier in the 4th Battalion, The Grenadiers of the Indian Army, who died in the Khem Karan sector during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 in the Battle of Asal Uttar, and was the posthumous recipient of the Republic of India's highest military decoration, the Param Vir Chakra.
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Albert Ekka, PVC
(1942–71) was a soldier in the Indian army. He died in service in the Battle of Hilli, during the Indo-Pakistan War of 1971. He was posthumously awarded the Param Vir Chakra, India's highest award for valour in the face of the enemy.[1]
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hope you got messge
 
wtf .... why would ram ram or jai mata di be official battalion slogan...
good on you maulana for bringing this out in open...
@pursuit of happiness muslims feel muscled out from many govt institution in India..
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slogan in army..
its not invested by indian army...
its come as tradition from british army...
they dont call it for RELIGION but for unity and strength.. nothing relgius about it..
that why IA did not allowed UPA to have any censue BASED ON RELGION IN ARMED FORCE..
they fight as UNIT.. so it for that PSYCHOLOGICAL SPIRIT.. not for Relgius spirit...

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Mulsim in govt
yes.. they do get descriminated.. so the lower caste..
why...
becasue our age old tradition (bad ones) need time to die ...
sati did not vasnish in weeks .. but gone slowly and steadly...
hindu - muslim divde have historical bacground of englsihe way of divde and rule and bloody eevrs of partition..
state/ govt dont encourage descrimaition .. if that so ..
msulsim did not top indias one of most imp exam..UPSC...
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Zafar Saifullah
He belongs to the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Administrative_Service']IAS
(KA:1958 batch). He was the first and the only Muslim to have ever been appointed Cabinet Secretary of India.[/URL]
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so looke with open eyes..
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muslim are backwards ..
mostly due to own deeds...
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you have to deserv before you desire..
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if you derserve stil not got due to design by govt to keep you out.. then you have right to say.. that theyare descrimated
 
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