Muslim of China

[fly2012]

There is another one in Anaheim, but I haven't gone there. The bread I was talking about is actually sesame bread with green onions. I love that bread.

Ahhhh, that's my favorites, it is called 香葱芝麻饼 (Scallion Sesame bread), really good, the best one I had is actually in a Taipei night market, just out of the stove...

 

[The SC]

We Indians could make a thread on the Muslims of our country and their prosperity, but it would be destroyed by Pakistanis bringing up Islamic incidents in India. I shall do my job and bring the injustice Muslims face in china.
Chinese Muslims clash with police over mosque | Reuters (Chinese Muslims clash with police over mosque(demolishing it))
Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan - MuslimVillage.com | MuslimVillage.com (Chinese Muslims banned from fasting in Ramadan)
http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/c...usade-against-the-muslims-of-xinjiang(China's Crusade Against the Muslims of East Turkestan (Xinjiang))

You are doing what you are blaming Pakistanis "might" do, you must be a very "proactive"( I should say provocative) dude.
Please come up with stories and articles about the prosperity of the Hindu-muslim population and pictures too, since they tend to speak for themselves.
That will be more instructive to the forum members.

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

we funded seperatists? what the hell you on about you deluded retard. how did we support and fund uyghurs? show me one proof . what organisations do they have in turkey?

A Turkey idiot said once you interests range from Mediterranean to Great wall. Haha， such a loser country can have a big ambition

 

[xuxu1457]

my opinion :The difficulties encountered by Muslims in China

the Hui and Uygur people of China come across some difficulties in China, the root is Educational tradition, every child shoud have nine-year compulsory education in accordance with the law,

general Chinese attaches great importance to education, education is the core of Confucianism, bcs Confucius is one educator, Chinese follows the Confucianism for nerely 2500 years,including Japan, Korea, Singapore, Confucianism is the religion of China in some degree; his words is"Nothing comes worthier than being well-educated. ", about religion he said "Respect of all the ghosts and Gods, but keep a distance" and "Unknown yet is life, much less is death." that's why there are not a dominant religion in China Japan Korea Vietnam Singapore atc

For Hui and Uygur Chinese, they have more children, and don't take care about education; many children drop out at primary school and junior middle school to be sent to mosque learn Koran or earn money with their parents even the primary school and junior middle school are all free. In some place 60 students in one class at the first year but 4-5 left at the end of the junior middle school;

here are differences between some Hui and Uygur children who left school, Two phenomenas make general Chinese unsatisfied:
one for Hui, Child labor for their parents, Muslim restaurants all over the country, and parents operate the restaurants and their children work with them,for me, I see children working at restaurants with parents in Dalian Shenyang Shandong Henan Hunan, nerely every Muslim noodle restaurant has children worker, I am sad to see this, when some one call for police, useless, the children are the operaters son or daughter or cognate, operaters said that children are only give a hand at home not drop out school when police come.

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[xuxu1457]

second for Uygur, some criminal Uyfur adults talk to the parents to find jobs for their children, and take the children to other place of China and become a thief group, the adult don't steal but let children do, this thief group in bus, train station, nere universty and street, move one city to another. the children's parents get about 1500 yuan per month salary for one children.
the police catch the children thief, useless, what they can do is send children home, but hard to catch the adult leader of the group. that's why there are pics and videos of catching a Uyfur children, some one post these and said that Chinese catching Uygur children and suppress the Uighurs in some purpose. for me, one notification of my universty:
http://gach.dlut.edu.cn/Show.asp?Id=440
"School staff and students:

Recently, after continuous work, Ling water sub-police station arrested a thief groups of people from Xinjiangdig surrounding our college , and its key leaders arrested. In order to verify the crime number and more effective, please students and staff whom were stolen thin year on campus and the surrounding for project registration.
Tel: 84708735
Report: public security on the first floor"
One mate teacher and his wife were stolen too.
in Nanchang of Jiangxi province, one thief group of 36 people were catched, most at age 8-15years old and the leader is 23 years old ,
??1500??? ????? - ???
the Booty

the child thief

if you search "新疆小偷" means “thief from Xinjiang”, you will find, 2,330,000 results
and one news said that , thief of Xinjiang is the most cattle thief
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and Chinese order gor to solve this
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"Government
possession of Xinjiang thieves!"

 

[kalu_miah]

Is it possible that lack of economic opportunity or jobs is making them go into restaurant business and also some into pick pocket gangs?

 

[Al Bhatti]

my opinion :The difficulties encountered by Muslims in China

the Hui and Uygur people of China come across some difficulties in China, the root is Educational tradition, every child shoud have nine-year compulsory education in accordance with the law,

general Chinese attaches great importance to education, education is the core of Confucianism, bcs Confucius is one educator, Chinese follows the Confucianism for nerely 2500 years,including Japan, Korea, Singapore, Confucianism is the religion of China in some degree; his words is"Nothing comes worthier than being well-educated. ", about religion he said "Respect of all the ghosts and Gods, but keep a distance" and "Unknown yet is life, much less is death." that's why there are not a dominant religion in China Japan Korea Vietnam Singapore atc

For Hui and Uygur Chinese, they have more children, and don't take care about education; many children drop out at primary school and junior middle school to be sent to mosque learn Koran or earn money with their parents even the primary school and junior middle school are all free. In some place 60 students in one class at the first year but 4-5 left at the end of the junior middle school;

here are differences between some Hui and Uygur children who left school, Two phenomenas make general Chinese unsatisfied:
one for Hui, Child labor for their parents, Muslim restaurants all over the country, and parents operate the restaurants and their children work with them,for me, I see children working at restaurants with parents in Dalian Shenyang Shandong Henan Hunan, nerely every Muslim noodle restaurant has children worker, I am sad to see this, when some one call for police, useless, the children are the operaters son or daughter or cognate, operaters said that children are only give a hand at home not drop out school when police come.

I wish every child goes to school and finishes at least higher secondary.

 

[xuxu1457]

Is it possible that lack of economic opportunity or jobs is making them go into restaurant business and also some into pick pocket gangs?

No one company dare to give jobs to children,sad thing is, the thief children grow up, lower education(hardly to find good job) and familiar with steal(long time to get money without working, more likely to become a leader to found a thief group and let more children follow);
that's why general Chinese have a better impression to Huis Chinese than Uygur Chinese, Huis children may open a restaurant when they grow up, but many Uygur Chinese children may be a thief when grow up

 

[kalu_miah]

No one company dare to give jobs to children,sad thing is, the thief children grow up, lower education(hardly to find good job) and familiar with steal(long time to get money without working, more likely to become a leader to found a thief group and let more children follow);
that's why general Chinese have a better impression to Huis Chinese than Uygur Chinese, Huis children may open a restaurant when they grow up, but some many Uygur Chinese children may be a thief when grow up

Looks like it is never ending vicious cycle, kind of similar to what Blacks and Hispanic minorities face in the US. Affirmative action programs helped to get them better jobs and education, but still its a constant struggle.

Islam or Muslims have no inherent bias against education, although the emphasis may not be as much as it is in Confucian cultures.

Since China has a growing economy, there will be labor shortage in the future, so with or without govt. incentive, they will eventually find a way to make a living without restaurant business or pick pocketing. Now restaurant business is not a bad thing, it shows they are entrepreneurial and hard working, its only the child labor part that is bad. In many countries there is law against truancy and fines for parents:
Truancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

May be you need a better law and good enforcement to solve the absence of students from compulsory education or truancy.

 

[xuxu1457]

$659m poured to support Xinjiang's health sector
$659m poured to support Xinjiang's health sector
URUMQI - Nineteen provinces and municipalities have spent a total of 4.28 billion yuan ($659 million) to support health sector development in western Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region over the past year.

The 19 selected regions, including Beijing and Guangdong, have supported 265 health projects in Xinjiang - from infrastructure building, medical equipment purchases to medical staff training, said China's Health Minister Chen Zhu, while addressing a meeting on Monday.
These health projects are part of a national plan to support Xinjiang through "pairing assistance" from 19 provinces and municipalities, which was unveiled in March 2010.

Chen added that the supporting provinces and municipalities have dispatched over 700 medical professionals and management staff to Xinjiang and organized health sector training for thousands.

Medical support teams sent by the 19 provinces and municipalities have offered treatment for more than 200,000 people in Xinjiang, Chen said.

According to Chen, the Ministry of Health and the State Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine allocated a special investment of 2.8 billion yuan for the development of Xinjiang's health sector in 2010, up 39 percent year-on-year.

Chen urged for further support to Xinjiang's health sector, especially in the reform of the medical system and training of medical professionals.

At a national conference on "pairing assistance" for Xinjiang held in Beijing last month, the government pledged to promote further development in the west region while improving residents' lives there was highest concern.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

your just a racist , people can say alot about chinese but i wont now i dont want to get banned

No one company dare to give jobs to children,sad thing is, the thief children grow up, lower education(hardly to find good job) and familiar with steal(long time to get money without working, more likely to become a leader to found a thief group and let more children follow);
that's why general Chinese have a better impression to Huis Chinese than Uygur Chinese, Huis children may open a restaurant when they grow up, but many Uygur Chinese children may be a thief when grow up

 

[xuxu1457]

Central companies to invest trillion yuan($157billion) to support Xinjiang
Central companies to invest trillion yuan to support Xinjiang - People's Daily Online
Thirty-one central companies plan to invest 991.6 billion yuan in Xinjiang during the 12th Five-Year Plan period from 2011 to 2015, said Wang Yong, director of the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC).

Wang also said that the investments will double those made during the 11th Five-Year Plan period.

On Aug. 20, the SASAC, the leaders of 120 central companies, the government of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, and the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps gathered in Urumqi, capital city of Xinjiang, to jointly hold the promotion conference on central companies supporting Xinjiang. At the conference, nearly 90 projects were initiated.

Following the guideline of maintaining sustainability of resources development and environmental protection, the SASAC and the central companies plan to invest in and promote the development of petroleum and petrochemical industry, coal, electricity, nonferrous metals and some emerging strategic industries. Two economic development zones will be built in Kashgar and Horergusi.

Sun Delong, vice president of PetroChina, said that the company will invest more than 300 billion to build Xinjiang into an oil and gas production base, petrochemical base and petroleum reserve base. The investment is equivalent to the total amount PetroChina invested in Xinjiang in the past 30 years.

Shenhua Group will invest 100 billion yuan in Xinjiang over the next five years.

Besides the exploitation of natural resources, the central companies will also invest in railway, road, communication, hydropower and other infrastructures.

According to the statistics from the local SASAC, up to the end of last year, there have been 44 central companies that have invested in Xinjiang. And the total investment has reached nearly 574 billion yuan, with a profit of 55.2 billion yuan.

 

[kalu_miah]

your just a racist , people can say alot about chinese but i wont now i dont want to get banned

I consider racism a human condition, a natural human trait to generalize and stereo-type. xuxu1457 is openly and frankly explaining Chinese popular opinion. It is better to discuss and understand the root of the problem.

Consider what is happening today with Rohingya in Burma, what is happening with North East Indian Tibeto-Burman people in "mainland" India, and the reverse in North East states against "mainland" Indians, what is happening in the US with blacks and hispanics, these are just some examples I know of first-hand, racism and reverse racism is all around us. People change with more knowledge, education, experience and exposure. It takes generations. And no population group in the world has advanced so much in their condition that they, as a group, can be called free from racism.

In fact, I would say that racism or tribal nature of humanity, people feeling more empathy towards their own "tribe" and lack empathy for the "other", is probably the most important problem humanity faces, that prevents people from working together and build a better world. Nationalism of many different kind, in order to unify the people of a nation, sometimes work to enhance these tribal feelings, aggravating an already bleak situation.

I believe, the only way racism will permanently leave human consciousness is when most nations will get sufficiently mixed ("mongrel") and Muslims have the best record of race mixing historically, so I consider Islam as a positive force for humanity in this little known aspect, about which people rarely think about. Arabs have spread far and wide and put down local roots, Central Asian steppe nomads have done the same as mamelukes and ghazi's, and this has tied the Islamic world together with invisible genetic links, spanning many parts of the globe.

Just wanted to share my views on this issue.

 

[xuxu1457]

Arman Muslim Foods Industrial Group of Xinjiang
¡ËXinjiang Arman Halal Food Industry Group Co., Ltd.¡Ë
Arman Muslim Foods Industrial Group of Xinjiang, Ltd. is a famous ethnic minority company in Xinjiang. Arman is also the leading company in Chinas agriculture industry for the development and production of nutritious Muslim food products. Arman has four China Green Food certified production bases that supply their Muslim food wholesale and retail markets. These bases use environmentally friendly farming and production methods to produce over 200 kinds of products under the Arman brand name.

Using a unique marketing concept known in Chinese as the 10,000 Villages & 1,000 Towns Project, Arman is seeking to make their slogan healthy food, healthy life a reality for everyone from the smallest village to the biggest city. To do this they are pursuing the goal to make the Arman brand name the leading Muslim food brand name in China. In Xinjiang, Arman has established 10 logistics distribution centers to supply more than 2,600 supermarkets and chain stores as well as over 80 sales representatives. Arman brand name products are being sold throughout Xinjiang as well as in Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou. Small quantities are also being exported to the Middle East, Central Asia and other countries within the Muslim consumer market.

Due to its consistent production of high quality products, Arman was listed among the leading agricultural private enterprises of China in 2003. In the same year, Arman received without difficulty the International Quality Management System ISO 9001-2000 certification; and in 2006 the Arman line of food products received the certification of both the HACCP [Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points] International Food Safety System and that of the GMP [Good Manufacturing Practice] Quality Health Food Production Regulations.

In the area of product development, Arman takes advantage of the local natural resources of Xinjiang. The chickpea, or garbanzo bean, has been widely used for more than 2,500 years in Uyghur Traditional Medicine and food.

Other locally grown foods are rich in many types of nutrients needed by the human body, and thus serve as the foundation for product. These include natural walnuts, almonds, apricot seeds, pumpkin seeds, chicory, and the Chinese wolfberry.

Using these natural ingredients, Arman has developed more than thirty kinds of nutritious drink powders. These nutritious drink powders strengthen the body and the mind by supplying additional nutrients and fortifying the immune system. 20 kinds of nutritious drink powders are China Green Food certified.

Arman has also invested a lot of capital in the research and development of more than 200 specialty foods. These include Arman Nutritious Drink Powders, Arman Chocolates, Arman Candies, Arman Nut Bars, Arman pure bottled water, Arman Tea Drinks and Arman Baked Goods.

Radil Abla，Uygur Young Entrepreneur， has studied hard in order to provide better leadership for Arman. His degrees include: Master of Economics & Management from Xinjiang University, an MBA from the Antai College of Economics & Management at Shanghai Jiao Tong University and a Doctor of International Nutrition form the International Open Medical University of the United Nations.

He has also been recognized as One of the Outstanding Builders in the Socialism Cause with Chinese Characteristics in the National Second Session, One of the Ten Prominent Young People in Xinjiang winning the Innovative Science and Technology Award, One of the First China MBA/EMBA Top Ten Famous Figures in 2006 and One of the Fifth Session Xinjiang Top Ten Outstanding Young People.

Uygur entrepreneur hopes to emulate Walmart, Unilever
URUMQI - Big names like Walmart, Nestle, and Unilever fall easily and often from Uygur entrepreneur Radil Abla's tongue.

"We have set them as our examples in developing business," said Abla, general manager of Xinjiang Arman Industrial Co.

Abla's aim is to build Arman into the world's top halal food brand. Today the company has already become the most famous halal food manufacturer in Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region, with over 200 kinds of products ranging from nutritional powder to milk and cakes.

Apart from food manufacturing, Arman has also expanded its portfolio into the retail and logistics industries. It now operates 2,275 chain stores in Xinjiang, and is building 10 distribution centers in the region.

Abla established Arman together with his brother 15 years ago after quitting the civil service. The two started their business with initial capital of just 3,000 yuan, renting an 8 sq m room in Urumqi selling home appliances.

Abla, with a degree in biology, soon turned his attention to Xinjiang's rich agricultural resources.

"They are another gold mine for people to explore, but few have paid attention to them," he said.

Today, Arman is also using some locally grown nuts to make different kinds of products, such as badam (almonds) and chickpeas, all of which have achieved success on the market.

Arman now owns four farms in Xinjiang, which provide materials including walnuts, chickpeas, milk and badam. The company has very strict standards to ensure the quality of its products, said Abla.

"Good quality contributes a lot to the success of our food products."

Besides striving for high quality, Abla has also used different methods to promote his company's products. When he decided to make TV commercials for his products, he first chose a local TV channel broadcasting in the Uygur language.

"Choosing that channel we can target Uygur people more," he said.

Now Arman advertisements can now also be seen on Chinese-language TV channels. Its products are available in big supermarkets in major cities like Beijing and Shanghai, and are also exported to many other countries.

Having achieved big success in the food industry, Abla has ambitious plans for the company's two other businesses. The company plans to have 5,000 chain stores in five years, and increase its distribution centers in the region to 15.

The company is learning from many international giants to develop its business, said Abla. For its retail business, it is looking at the business models of companies like Walmart.

As for the food sector, the company is looking at companies like Nestle and McDonalds, said Abla.

Abla believes his company will benefit a lot from the central government's moves to boost Xinjiang's economy. "I am confident about the future."

He added that the company is also starting work on a possible listing within the next five years.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

yes , there should be no racism as long as people look at another normally and not sterotyping , and nationalism should be to a level where you like your country and dont go into racism

I consider racism a human condition, a natural human trait to generalize and stereo-type. xuxu1457 is openly and frankly explaining Chinese popular opinion. It is better to discuss and understand the root of the problem.

Consider what is happening today with Rohingya in Burma, what is happening with North East Indian Tibeto-Burman people in "mainland" India, and the reverse in North East states against "mainland" Indians, what is happening in the US with blacks and hispanics, these are just some examples I know of first-hand, racism and reverse racism is all around us. People change with more knowledge, education, experience and exposure. It takes generations. And no population group in the world has advanced so much in their condition that they, as a group, can be called free from racism.

In fact, I would say that racism or tribal nature of humanity, people feeling more empathy towards their own "tribe" and lack empathy for the "other", is probably the most important problem humanity faces, that prevents people from working together and build a better world. Nationalism of many different kind, in order to unify the people of a nation, sometimes work to enhance these tribal feelings, aggravating an already bleak situation.

I believe, the only way racism will permanently leave human consciousness is when most nations will get sufficiently mixed ("mongrel") and Muslims have the best record of race mixing historically, so I consider Islam as a positive force for humanity in this little known aspect, about which people rarely think about. Arabs have spread far and wide and put down local roots, Central Asian steppe nomads have done the same as mamelukes and ghazi's, and this has tied the Islamic world together with invisible genetic links, spanning many parts of the globe.

Just wanted to share my views on this issue.