Muslim man sends 'talaq' SMS to wife after learning about her gang-rape

[Guynextdoor2]

Due process is observed later. Just from a religious point of view, you're through.
It would be interesting to know(@Zarvan @simple Brain) what if you didn't actually mean to divorce but just uttered the world 'Talaq' thrice in the heat of the moment. What's up with Gang rapes in India, by the way? @jamahir @Guynextdoor2

I actually have common ground with @ranjeet on this one though not completely. Uniform civil code with one man one wife and complete judicial process to be followed in case of a divorce. Where I differ with him is when it should happen. All of these are already in place for Hindu personal law. I would prefer that the muslim community evolve a consensus and take this decision. I don't support his stand that it should be pushed down from above. India is a very diverse country and you need to tread an evolutionary path, not a revolutionary one.

 

[Dragon4]

Typical mindset of belittling the real issue of rape. This is a public forum on PDF and the OP can discuss whatever he or she wants but we want to focus on the REAL issue of rape and the low-life who divorced his wife without just cause.

k, please discuss more about rapes in India, while gawking at your pc from Pakistan, best of luck for your research. Excuse me, bye.

 

[ranjeet]

Your government should follow the Pakistani UC example. Talaq is generally the last option, even if the man issues the talaq, the notice has to be sent to the union council where it is reviewed and both sides will be asked if they want to settle the issue.

If the man waits 4 months and than accepts the wife back than the talk is nullified, if after that time the wife or the man wish to go their separate ways, than that is their right in law. Also it is at this time that the man will be asked to provide the hukmehre and show what he can provide for the wife for her support in case of divorce.

Of course you get bastards everywhere, but this is not a problem with Islam, this is fundamentally a cultural problem because wherever I have gone from USA to Tokyo, women are treated like shit. In some places slightly better, but still dolled up and tarted around like chattel.

Man by his very nature is an insecure dare I say it "childish" animal.

It would be really tough to amend anything when all this "intolerance" debate is going on in India. But our Supreme Court has asked the government to move forward on the uniform civil code lets see if we can move forward on that front. Agree with your point about it's a problem with men not religion.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Typical mindset of belittling the real issue of rape. This is a public forum on PDF and the OP can discuss whatever he or she wants but we want to focus on the REAL issue of rape and the low-life who divorced his wife without just cause.

I can assure you, problem is probably worse in pak since reporting is fairly insignificant there....

It would be really tough to amend anything when all this "intolerance" debate is going on in India. But our Supreme Court has asked the government to move forward on the uniform civil code lets see if we can move forward on that front. Agree with your point about it's a problem with men not religion.

and whose mistake is that? The right wing has frequently used even progressive legislation as a symbolic threat. This hardens the community into a corner.

 

[Malik Alashter]

The divorce of Muslims shiite is different you can't divorce by saying taliq 3 times no you have to bring the shaikh and two witnesses then the shaikh ask both of to confirm the talaq and there is some other things to be considered.

 

[ranjeet]

and whose mistake is that? The right wing has frequently used even progressive legislation as a symbolic threat. This hardens the community into a corner.

How many years Congress had to implement UCC? what did they do? Instead of pulling them out of backwardness they give them Shah Bano overruling SC's judgement. Why pamper a particular community so much that even a discussion about certain topics would result in strong and at times violent reactions?

 

[Mike_Brando]

There are issues that people of other faiths just simply cannot understand - talaq for you holy mother cows for us- going over the scale by severity indians must deal first with holy mother cows BS first since it directly effects the communal harmony of people -

So,now you're comparing your womenfolks with some random animals albeit cows!!No wonder your community has failed to won any Nobel prize in the last couple of years with this level of IQ!!!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

How many years Congress had to implement UCC? what did they do? Instead of pulling them out of backwardness they give them Shah Bano overruling SC's judgement. Why pamper a particular community so much that even a discussion about certain topics would result in strong and at times violent reactions?

Yeah, BJP which opposes even little progressive legislation for Hindus is talking about UCC. India is not ready for UCC, that is just a fact. BJP's been in power twice now. How much have they been able to push it?
ultimately it is for muslim women to come out to the streets and ask for it. And the longer hindu political right uses it as a whipping stick, it'll only make it worse for them to do it.

 

[Dragon4]

The day, Uniform civil code is passed will be the day we can undoubtedly say India is evolving towards a better future.

 

[Desert Fox]

It's a female issue, much bigger than some stray incident over beef.

In that case your country should stop the rape epidemic of women first if they are so concerned about women's rights.

 

[terry5]

Obviously triple talaq is a bigger issue than gang r@pe. Makes complete sense.

These indians are used to it now like a daily cup of tea rape is common over there you can even see the majority of indian posters have the rape gene built into them when they reply to a pic of a woman

 

[Guynextdoor2]

The divorce of Muslims shiite is different you can't divorce by saying taliq 3 times no you have to bring the shaikh and two witnesses then the shaikh ask both of to confirm the talaq and there is some other things to be considered.

we'd like everything to go through the courts sometime in the future.

In that case your country should stop the rape epidemic of women first if they are so concerned about women's rights.

maybe the despicable system of getting a divorce only on the grounds that the man want it should continue. That's pretty much the maximum damage that a society can give to the woman too.

 

[ranjeet]

Yeah, BJP which opposes even little progressive legislation for Hindus is talking about UCC. India is not ready for UCC, that is just a fact. BJP's been in power twice now. How much have they been able to push it?
ultimately it is for muslim women to come out to the streets and ask for it. And the longer hindu political right uses it as a whipping stick, it'll only make it worse for them to do it.

Yeah you should check the debate of Maulana Taukir Raza who is a regular on debate on TV channels over Rajeena's expose about Madarassa in Kerala. He justified death threats issued to her on FB.

 

[terry5]

Some Islam ke thekedaar here forget India has more Muslims than Pakistan, so no need to poke your noses wherever you see the word MUSLIM. OP wanted to discuss about the inhuman nature of the divorce,nothing to do with Islam. That is why there is a need for Uniform Civil Code in India. Typical stereotyped mindset.

So Pakistanis can't comment on a Pakistani forum ? GTFO with your bull crap we comment when we want how we want with who we want if you don't like it eff off to your bharati bullshit forum

 

[jamahir]

For how long are we going to continue with this triple talaq BS? Indian muslims going to do it themselves or Intolerance should step in here as well?

ranjeet, did you never bother to read my posts explaining the islami divorce system or do you not want to acknowledge that divorce system ( especially its rights for ladies ) was codified as part of true islam a long long time before the western world ( and india ) made them available to common ladies??

read these posts explaining the talaq system...

women take a stand, stop karva chauth

Stop Muslim polygamy, its 'heinously patriarchal' says Gujarat HC, pitching for a common civil code | Page 2

a "triple talaq" exists but it is not a stupid "instant triple talaq".

let me clearly say this... if the "uniform civil code" is brought by the supreme court, it is greatly going to change lot of hindu social life and especially bring comfort to so many hindu ladies who continue live their married life in misery because of social pressure.

why Divorce the women ? was it her Mistake ? stupid fellow

She should sue For has mehar and custody as the four year old without a doubt goes to the mother. Considering how cheap and filthy the guy is I a. guessing the haq mehar has been set to be a pittance ....

not just for mehr, but for being a coward and unmanly.

Due process is observed later. Just from a religious point of view, you're through.
It would be interesting to know(@Zarvan @simple Brain) what if you didn't actually mean to divorce but just uttered the world 'Talaq' thrice in the heat of the moment.

from previous discussion, @Zarvan doesn't know these things and can only reproduce robotic answers.

What's up with Gang rapes in India, by the way? @jamahir @Guynextdoor2

in india, gangrapes are not so much for lust but for teaching lesson to females... there is a confluence of two things - (a). there are more females now in public life in india than 20 years ago, (b). there has been increase in reactionary movements since 1989 and these movements of course are misogynist... if you read the statements of the perpetrators of the amaanat rape/torture case of december 2012 and of their lawyer, you will find anti-female hatred and adherence to traditional indian culture... this case (
Delhi's unknown Nirbhaya: Horrifying story of teenager who was tortured and gang-raped for days and then left for dead | Daily Mail Online ) illustrates the attitude.

there is the other thing of rape cases being more reported now by the victims because of increased awareness of laws.

but since india is not a progressive/socialist society, the potential perpetrators of gangrapes don't find the laws threatening their attitude... this is just like how "honor killings" continue to occur in 2015 despite "honor killing" being murder.