Muslim Indians Should Demand A Seperate Nation:--

[Hiptullha]

The answer of this bogus thread.

A shitty 240p Youtube video ain't a good answer, junior.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Pakistanis are not indians who converted to Islam. If that were true than modern day Pakistanis would resemble indians. They clearly don't. Pakistanis are physically, racially, genetically, culturally and religiously completely different to indians. The only similarity is that we share a common border. Arabs and others do not have a monopoly on Islam. If anything, Pakistan, Indonesia and Turkey carry the mantle of Islam now. Here in London, Pakistanis, Arabs, Turks and Persians/ Iranians are intermarrying in ever increasing numbers.

Agreed, indian Muslims are completely identical to hindus except for religion. indian Muslims are not really part of the international Muslim mainstream. Yes, indian Muslims resent Pakistanis.

You are also right that Pakistanis and indians have got absolutely nothing to do with eachother.

Then what you are ?? Who were your ancestors??
If you think your ancestors were from Arab then you automatically becomes outsider on Pakistani land which was officially Indian land .
If you think your ancestors were Indians then automatically you becomes converted because Islam was never part of Indian society before Arab came here.
Do you really know what is your indenty??

 

[Hiptullha]

. Just think about it, 1000 years they tried to break hinduism, the weak-willed fell(i.e. you) while the strong willed are still found today, and hinduism stands as the third largest religion in the world. Wherever Islam and Christianity went, forced conversions followed. Just take a look at Africa, Middle Eastern, and parts of Asia.

No offense, but being proud of worshiping rocks, cows, and penises isn't something to be proud of. Wherever Hinduism goes, degeneracy follows. It's not about will, it's about logic. The people who were tired of a disgusting caste system where the superior Aryan invaders (like me, for I have Kashmiri Brahmin roots) assumed superiority over their inferior Brown, short and stubby lower-caste lackeys (who foolishly accepted a belief system which meant they didn't have access to goddamn toilets) or a belief system where a smelly and dirty cow was your mother, a monkey was your father, a elephant man was your cousin twice-removed and a pig was your brother-in-law. Did you ever realize that maybe, just maybe there are people out there who do not like wading in rivers filled to the brim with corpses and defecation? This is the fault of you foolish lower-caste Indians. You've spent your entire lives living among defecation and unwashed Hindutva fanatics, you think it's the norm and a perfect life system. No, it's not traitorous. We just don't like worshiping a magic monkey man riding a spaceship off to Mars. It's that simple, lad. No elaborate Islamist-Reptilian conspiracies. No Islamic F-16s firebombing Rajauptuatrajsvis, forcing the natives to convert. Plain old logic. A clean, well-structured and egalitarian religion. That's it.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

A shitty 240p Youtube video ain't a good answer, junior.

We can't help you if you tube is ban in pakistan and what you have seen in this video is totally truth. Still Indian Muslims don't want you to make interfare in their mind. You know why? Because they are enjoying better life here in India than Muslims of Pakistan.

 

[takeiteasy]

Majority of India is rural. Secularism or tolerance is not learned in these places. It is the cities and progressive states like in southern India, that the need for co-existing is respected. Gau Mata politics and regular RSS sakha (mastishka-prakshalana) injections are enough to make them more extreme especially true with tribes in northern India. A visit of Togadia is good enough to heat the blood. But, when you remember that what you recited as pledge in school days is no where true, but India is the country only for Hindus and where the RSS killer is gaining more respect than Mahatma, it was shocking. When you Hindu lives in a Islamic state, perhaps you will understand what we minorities are afraid of. Luckily, living in Kerala, we are saved from Hindi heartland Hindu-Muslim violence and barbarity.

Sunni Muslims are 18crores or more in India. If RSS agenda of Hindu land where Bahlikas/Mlechcha's are to be culled and the blood is used to purify the land of Bharat is followed, India will be in civil wars, totally going back to 19th century. RSS & Co are good at targetting Christians and other weaker groups. It is in the interest of India as a secular country that both Hindu and Muslim religionists must be controlled and a development focus oriented irreligious political party (like AAP) must be in power. Congress was lootere, BJP the RSS religious nutjobs. This time RSS will want to topple India's secular system and democracy for their violent agendas literally throwing this nation into anarchy.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Majority of India is rural. Secularism or tolerance is not learned in these places. It is the cities and progressive states like in southern India, that the need for co-existing is respected. Gau Mata politics and regular RSS sakha (mastishka-prakshalana) injections are enough to make them more extreme especially true with tribes in northern India. A visit of Togadia is good enough to heat the blood. But, when you remember that what you recited as pledge in school days is no where true, but India is the country only for Hindus and where the RSS killer is gaining more respect than Mahatma, it was shocking. When you Hindu lives in a Islamic state, perhaps you will understand what we minorities are afraid of. Luckily, living in Kerala, we are saved from Hindi heartland Hindu-Muslim violence and barbarity.

Sunni Muslims are 18crores or more in India. If RSS agenda of Hindu land where Bahlikas/Mlechcha's are to be culled and the blood is used to purify the land of Bharat is followed, India will be in civil wars, totally going back to 19th century. RSS & Co are good at targetting Christians and other weaker groups. It is in the interest of India as a secular country that both Hindu and Muslim religionists must be controlled and a development focus oriented irreligious political party (like AAP) must be in power. Congress was lootere, BJP the RSS religious nutjobs. This time RSS will want to topple India's secular system and democracy for their violent agendas literally throwing this nation into anarchy.

Great post!

 

[wiseone2]

Majority of India is rural. Secularism or tolerance is not learned in these places. It is the cities and progressive states like in southern India, that the need for co-existing is respected. Gau Mata politics and regular RSS sakha (mastishka-prakshalana) injections are enough to make them more extreme especially true with tribes in northern India. A visit of Togadia is good enough to heat the blood. But, when you remember that what you recited as pledge in school days is no where true, but India is the country only for Hindus and where the RSS killer is gaining more respect than Mahatma, it was shocking. When you Hindu lives in a Islamic state, perhaps you will understand what we minorities are afraid of. Luckily, living in Kerala, we are saved from Hindi heartland Hindu-Muslim violence and barbarity.

Sunni Muslims are 18crores or more in India. If RSS agenda of Hindu land where Bahlikas/Mlechcha's are to be culled and the blood is used to purify the land of Bharat is followed, India will be in civil wars, totally going back to 19th century. RSS & Co are good at targetting Christians and other weaker groups. It is in the interest of India as a secular country that both Hindu and Muslim religionists must be controlled and a development focus oriented irreligious political party (like AAP) must be in power. Congress was lootere, BJP the RSS religious nutjobs. This time RSS will want to topple India's secular system and democracy for their violent agendas literally throwing this nation into anarchy.

The data does not support your assertions

worst communal riots have been in urban areas

saying rural India is intolerant is a vast generalization. rural India is a mess. vested interests like to fuel Hindu-Muslim differences. the RSS is probably more benign of the vested interests. I am not a BJP/RSS supporter.

wait until % of Muslims increases in Kerala to see how well things work out

the ability of Indian Muslims to resist an all out Hindu assault is zero. Indian Muslims are too economically dependent and too dispersed

 

[Max]

We can't help you if you tube is ban in pakistan and what you have seen in this video is totally truth. Still Indian Muslims don't want you to make interfare in their mind. You know why? Because they are enjoying better life here in India than Muslims of Pakistan.

Theses deobandis were even against the creation of Pakistan so nothing new there... they are doing same job which their predecessor did.. They call Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah Kafir e azam.. they wrote in their publications that Jamiat ulma e hind 1000 jinnah, gandhi ki joti per Qurbn kar sakti hai in return public give them name of congressi (hindu) Mullah and yet people remember them with same name... no one listen to them and will never going to listen them... and In'sha'Allah if we get another Pakistan soon... we will do his ram nam saty in hindu shamshan ghat...

 

[Stag112]

A referendum should be held globally.

Asking if the world needs another pakistan.

 

[prashantazazel]

Majority of India is rural. Secularism or tolerance is not learned in these places. It is the cities and progressive states like in southern India, that the need for co-existing is respected. Gau Mata politics and regular RSS sakha (mastishka-prakshalana) injections are enough to make them more extreme especially true with tribes in northern India. A visit of Togadia is good enough to heat the blood. But, when you remember that what you recited as pledge in school days is no where true, but India is the country only for Hindus and where the RSS killer is gaining more respect than Mahatma, it was shocking. When you Hindu lives in a Islamic state, perhaps you will understand what we minorities are afraid of. Luckily, living in Kerala, we are saved from Hindi heartland Hindu-Muslim violence and barbarity.

Sunni Muslims are 18crores or more in India. If RSS agenda of Hindu land where Bahlikas/Mlechcha's are to be culled and the blood is used to purify the land of Bharat is followed, India will be in civil wars, totally going back to 19th century. RSS & Co are good at targetting Christians and other weaker groups. It is in the interest of India as a secular country that both Hindu and Muslim religionists must be controlled and a development focus oriented irreligious political party (like AAP) must be in power. Congress was lootere, BJP the RSS religious nutjobs. This time RSS will want to topple India's secular system and democracy for their violent agendas literally throwing this nation into anarchy.

in the near future, atheism/ secularism will topple religious agendas.
the religious right wingers (on both sides would lose power and influence). This is the global trend- just look at Europe and the US.

till then, happy fighting.

 

[Maarkhoor]

A referendum should be held globally.

Asking if the world needs another pakistan.

and all retards should be burnt to death

 

[Max]

@MastanKhan bro Anthem for our new movement

 

[Rajesh12379]

Not once did I say that Pakistanis are descendants of Arabs. In fact I have stated many times that Pakistanis don't have Arab/Middle Eastern heritage but I have always acknowledged the fact that most Pakistanis (for whatever reason) look like Arabs, Turks and Iranians/Persians and not indians.

It is not about you saying something. It is about the facts on the ground and a large number of Pakistanis (and in facts most subcontinental Muslims) claiming something.

And no, most of you neither look like nor have anything to do with those invaders though most of you pretend to. In fact I have seen them having contempt for Pakistanis when they claim such connections. Right here on this forum. There is enough stuff out there to prove this and you can easily look that up.

I know this to be true from a lifetime of living in London UK and seeing 1000s of both indians and Pakistanis and having gone to many Mosques. Pakistanis call themselves indians in new york to stop themselves from being attacked by white people. They could have easily passed off as being Arab or Iranian but that would have incensed the racists even more. But white people cannot tell the difference between Pakistanis, South Americans, Arabs, Turks and Iranians. This was evident in 2005 when a Brazilian (Jean Charles De Menezies) man shot and killed by the British police force as they mistook him for a Pakistani terrorist who resembled him.

As I said, let's not belabor this point. I am not keen on pointing out any similarities or resemblance.

Chinese, Koreans and Japanese may resemble each other and even many of them may not be able to tell each other apart. That doesn't mean they are not different nations.

Saying Pakistanis are low caste hindu converts is so ridiculous that it is laughable. If it were true than Pakistanis would look like them which they clearly and obviously don't. In fact low caste hindus look like and are of the same race as high caste hindus. They are the same people .

Facts are facts. Genetics doesn't lie. In fact even many Pakistanis claim that their ancestors converted because of caste oppression. If true, it was only replaced by Ashraf oppression.

Also, agree that Indians of any caste are the same people racially.

Physical resemblance is not the reason for the creation of Pakistan. But it emphasizes one of the differences between us and the indian race.

The two-nation theory (Urdu: دو-قومی نظریہ‎ — Dō-qaumī naẓariyah, Devanagari: दो-क़ौमी नज़रिया, Bengali: দ্বিজাতি তত্ত্ব— Dijati totto) is the ideology that the primary identity and unifying denominator of Muslims in the South Asian subcontinentis their religion, rather than their language or ethnicity, and therefore Indian Hindus and Muslims are two distinct nations, regardless of ethnic or other commonalities.[1][2] The two-nation theory was a founding principle of the Pakistan Movement(i.e. the ideology of Pakistan as a Muslim nation-state in South Asia), and the partition of India in 1947.

They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state.

Two-nation theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the justification and it basically means that Muslims can't live with any non Muslims. Most of it would apply to Christians as well where many Pakistanis are so keen to go in a reverse hijarat, despite claiming Islamophobia!

There is no concept o ethnicity here. Just conversion to an Arab origin religion that is supposed to change your history and identity. Makes one reject all that was his own for thousands of years and claim "When we are in Spain...".

Apparently Arabs laugh at Pakistanis when they make such statements. They call you Mussalli...

Also, a bit on the identity crisis that is also at display here.

 

[Joe Shearer]

The data does not support your assertions

worst communal riots have been in urban areas

saying rural India is intolerant is a vast generalization. rural India is a mess. vested interests like to fuel Hindu-Muslim differences. the RSS is probably more benign of the vested interests. I am not a BJP/RSS supporter.

wait until % of Muslims increases in Kerala to see how well things work out

the ability of Indian Muslims to resist an all out Hindu assault is zero. Indian Muslims are too economically dependent and too dispersed

Good points, but on the whole, I tend to agree with @takeiteasy

and all retards should be burnt to death

No, no, we want you around for a thousand years.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Good points, but on the whole, I tend to agree with @takeiteasy




No, no, we want you around for a thousand years.

Me always here and around to be witness the burning