Musharraf wants to create relations with Israel!

[DESERT FIGHTER]

If all the countries that sell weapons to India are declared enemies that would mean that you would have no other place to buy weapons from except china....

If you don't recognize Israel how will the Palestinians get statehood? If all the arab/muslim nations pushed the international community for a Palestine state it would happen, but one has to think beyond that. A Palestine state would be very much linked with Israel in its economy, culture and many other ways. This would mean that normal foreign relations would have to be established.

I am one of a very few Indians that believe that Kashmir should be part of Pakistan, but Pakistan has done many things to the contrary. My opinion wont be heard among my friends because of terrorist organizations like LeT. If Pakistan would come the negotiation table with a honest offer that the ISI will stop backing terror activities then people with opinions like me can have a voice in India.

Thts an honest man.. welcome to PDF my frnd.

 

[Uchiha]

To all the braindead mullas here; what do you understand by relations?
You do know if we recognise it, a horde of emigrants will rush to Israel, benefiting us economically
Also, if we can GAIN some money/technology why do we even need to think about religious perspective?

 

[noob101]

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Sure you are as much Indian as im the pope no true Indian would say Kashmir should be with Pakistan if they knew Indian history and the sacrifice we made.

If you think about it most Indians have no reason to want to keep Kashmir as a part of India! Its because of all the wars and the terror activities that makes Indians reluctant to give up Kashmir. After independence Pakistan waited 2 months before choosing violence over a diplomatic solution. The ease at which Pakistanis are willing to use violence is what troubles Indians, Partition was meant for the muslim dominated areas of India to become Pakistan and thats what kahsmir is. If you disagree with me then give me a good reason why Kashmir should be a part of India?

 

[Yeti]

If you think about it most Indians have no reason to want to keep Kashmir as a part of India! Its because of all the wars and the terror activities that makes Indians reluctant to give up Kashmir. After independence Pakistan waited 2 months before choosing violence over a diplomatic solution. The ease at which Pakistanis are willing to use violence is what troubles Indians, Partition was meant for the muslim dominated areas of India to become Pakistan and thats what kahsmir is. If you disagree with me then give me a good reason why Kashmir should be a part of India?

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If you think about it most Indians have no reason to want to keep Kashmir as a part of India! Its because of all the wars and the terror activities that makes Indians reluctant to give up Kashmir. After independence Pakistan waited 2 months before choosing violence over a diplomatic solution. The ease at which Pakistanis are willing to use violence is what troubles Indians, Partition was meant for the muslim dominated areas of India to become Pakistan and thats what kahsmir is. If you disagree with me then give me a good reason why Kashmir should be a part of India?

off-topic stick to the subject matter but i reject everything you said

 

[graphican]

It was a well-thought treaty which resulted in the spread of Islam laps and miles. What kind of spread are you looking these days? Also when you don't follow "other things of Quran" then how is this a justification that this one shouldn't be followed either??? If you are not following other things.. may be this is good time to start following them "as well" but this is no argument.

 

[noob101]

I corrected my post #98.

Yes, but if the zionist state believed in just and moral principles they would not have sold India any military equipment since according to the UN Kashmir is disputed territory.

Then by your logic all the countries that Pakistan buys weapons from have no morals including China. Its a 2 way street my friend.

 

[graphican]

ye bato jo palastani roz mar rahi hain inko insaf or peace kasay milay ga agar hum bat hai nahi karin gay ?

Who is stopping you from giving peace and fighting for the justice for a common man? What's the point here???

 

[humanfirst]

There is no good side of lie and and there is no bright side of kufr.

Aren't chinese kufr too?Or your religious laws are valid only when it serve your purpose?

 

[untitled]

It was a well-thought treaty which resulted in the spread of Islam laps and miles.

My point was that if Prophet PBUH was willing to compromise and sign harsh unjust treaties (which appeared as such at the moment) with the enemy why can't we ?

 

[graphican]

Not at all true.
Many avionics spares for the F-16 came from Israel during the embargo years...along with flight computers for our early UAV's(and some new ones as well).
The Israeli's did business with us when ever our "Muslim Brothers" the eqyptians refused out of fear of the US.

RED PART:
Its not my personal quote... this is from HOLY QURAN! whats your point here??

Example of a bad Muslim is not justification of collaborating with anti-Muslims. Israel helped Pakistan? NOT Really.. they earned money out of it and they got paid. Also how would you forget Israeli attempt to attack Pakistani Nuclear Installations??? What about Indian Support in Kargil?

You speak with logic and its the logic which wins.. if you want to Accept and make relations with Israel because Musharaf wanted so then we have no point to discuss. BUT if your logic is their "favors" then I can list more enmities of theirs against the state of Pakistan to argue.

Also imagine where is the head office of BLA?

 

[mitth]

Why Musharraf create relation with Israel....?
Israel take good relation with India and Musharraf sb said that Pak-Israel take the relation.?
what our nation response and other........

 

[noob101]

RED PART:
Its not my personal quote... this is from HOLY QURAN! whats your point here??

Example of a bad Muslim is not justification of collaborating with anti-Muslims. Israel helped Pakistan? NOT Really.. they earned money out of it and they got paid. Also how would you forget Israeli attempt to attack Pakistani Nuclear Installations??? What about Indian Support in Kargil?

You speak with logic and its the logic which wins.. if you want to Accept and make relations with Israel because Musharaf wanted so then we have no point to discuss. BUT if your logic is their "favors" then I can list more enmities of theirs against the state of Pakistan to argue.

Also imagine where is the head office of BLA?

In the early years of the Afghan war a lot of the weapons that were used by the mujhadeen fighters were from Isreal, they were weapons that were captured during the 6 day war. This includes manpads before the Americans gave them stingers.

 

[untitled]

RED PART:
Its not my personal quote...

Think of it this way. Like the saying goes in the mafia:

Keep your friends close but your enemies closer

 

[graphican]

How many of us in Pakistan can claim to be momins ?

Its with God who is momin and who is not.. If you think you not, does that allows you to be as anti as you can? Its the core which matters the most.. we are all sinful and we all make mistakes but mistakes which we make after understanding them as mistakes are the worst.

So your point is since no one is momin.. lets bring the devil home??

 

[untitled]

Come with logic here.. or simply don't

And quoting the Holy Quran out of context is your sense of logic ?